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Originally posted by jprietman
Originally posted by piratecalvin

Originally posted by jprietman


fact of the matter is, we are great when we run the ball with mal. always have been. our passing has been dismal this season. seems like when we throw the ball, we are setting ourselves up for disappointment. also the weakside runs are pretty crappy too.

in light of the information provided above, what sort of gameplan would you go with, offensively?

well of course that is the most effective gameplan(as it is for every team that has a powerback this season) and i'm well aware that ever since you acquired mal it has been mostly pounding it with him. i dont mind a good power running game at all. using the same play over and over again because it has been proven to be mostly unstoppable is what grates my nerves.

i would just try to be optimistic that Bort is going to fix this in the offseason... if teams are able to create their own defensive plays (probably using the defensive play creator), im pretty sure that would do the trick. look, i'm with you when it comes to the play being unstoppable... and it makes it even more difficult when its being run by a back like Mal.

but you cant blame us for the sim's flaws. its extremely hard to justify using a gameplan that isnt the most effective way to win. this is the nature of football.

ATOIAF is doing pretty much the same thing we're doing, and they also have a great back to run it. they kicked our asses with our own gameplan, so we know how it feels too. i dont think anyone wants the sim to be broken like this, but i definitely dont think ATOIAF should be messing around with passing the ball if their bread and butter is running.

True, we shouldn't be passing the ball when it's obvious that our running game vastly outstrips our passing game (and you also know there are better backs out there than ours which says a lot about our passing game).

If (read: when) Korb stuffs us, if they played HB slam all day, you will not see me in here unhappy about it. I'm unhappy enough already that the season is a wash. We all are. I'll be pissed that my team got beat by orange dots (I mean guys, seriously, Orange?) and pissed that we're out, but pissed that teams are doing their best in the current sim to win a game and have it working out for them?

Thanks for the exciting game BFM.

Delighted with the win.

Ye all know my opinion on the Power back strong i

Originally posted by jprietman
Originally posted by piratecalvin

Originally posted by jprietman


fact of the matter is, we are great when we run the ball with mal. always have been. our passing has been dismal this season. seems like when we throw the ball, we are setting ourselves up for disappointment. also the weakside runs are pretty crappy too.

in light of the information provided above, what sort of gameplan would you go with, offensively?

well of course that is the most effective gameplan(as it is for every team that has a powerback this season) and i'm well aware that ever since you acquired mal it has been mostly pounding it with him. i dont mind a good power running game at all. using the same play over and over again because it has been proven to be mostly unstoppable is what grates my nerves.

i would just try to be optimistic that Bort is going to fix this in the offseason... if teams are able to create their own defensive plays (probably using the defensive play creator), im pretty sure that would do the trick. look, i'm with you when it comes to the play being unstoppable... and it makes it even more difficult when its being run by a back like Mal.

but you cant blame us for the sim's flaws. its extremely hard to justify using a gameplan that isnt the most effective way to win. this is the nature of football.

ATOIAF is doing pretty much the same thing we're doing, and they also have a great back to run it. they kicked our asses with our own gameplan, so we know how it feels too. i dont think anyone wants the sim to be broken like this, but i definitely dont think ATOIAF should be messing around with passing the ball if their bread and butter is running.

i can understand why you did it. 'the ends justify the means' but still...its tough to lose like that

Originally posted by Fat Daddy Cash
Originally posted by piratecalvin


hey its not my problem, i'm just saying i wouldnt pay money for that kind of 'playing'. but it is interesting that you have given up trying to defend your power running logic and resorted to personal attacks. running out of material?

Ahh yes, because calling us pieces of crap is not a personal attack.

i never said you were a piece of crap

my opinion is that the sim has unfairly weighted toward power backs, and one specific play is unstoppable.

i also think that if a team has the ability to run it, they SHOULD.

my third and final opinion is that some people in this thread should lighten up. its a game, after all. if the weather is nice outside, go play in it. getting into a huge e-argument on the internet about a game is no way to spend your daily efforts. if you want to quit GLB, then quit. if you dont want to quit, then maybe that means you have hope that Bort will fix the game. either option is better than bickering about it on a messageboard.

Originally posted by Menamino
I'll sum up my thoughts in one post so people know what the 'official' berlin stance on this game is

1) Don't blame stockholm for taking advantage of the sheer stupidity of this seasons sim

2) I blame the state of the sim for the loss, not just the power back BS, but the awful pass pressure definition and QB AI currently in the game

Having said that,

the fact that a power back can run up the middle 44 times and break 5 tackles on his 45th carry with seemingly no dropoff in energy or effectiveness is beyond dumb. But again, that's the sim.

I do take issue with people telling us to fix our builds though. That's the most played out argument in GLB. No build stops the strong I slam consistently. No build prevents you from losing energy after getting run on by a power back 44 times while the RB seemingly doesn't lose any. Are my DE's builds the reason they're worthless now? No, it's because people whined all day for seasons and forced Bort to change the sim, even though the well built OTs were shutting down Magnus way back in season 4 (just ask the London Hitmen).

And I think skill position players in this game who spend 900 flex a season to boost should actually see their player do something, yes. I'm not sure what message it sends to your skill position players when you pass 7 times and their guys are just wandering around the field aimlessly for the rest of the game, but it certainly doesn't strike me as saying "keep spending flex on this game! You're a valuable member of the team!"

No build may stop it, but:

Stockholm: 22 Strong I Slam Plays (1 was a False Start), 4.16 ypc
Berlin: 21 Strong I Slam Plays 3.1 ypc

Perhaps there's more to this than the play being unstoppable.

Same 'unstoppable play', and apparently everyone's builds are outstanding, so what could be the issue?

Here's a hint...don't blame the sim.

Originally posted by piratecalvin
Originally posted by jprietman

Originally posted by piratecalvin


Originally posted by jprietman



fact of the matter is, we are great when we run the ball with mal. always have been. our passing has been dismal this season. seems like when we throw the ball, we are setting ourselves up for disappointment. also the weakside runs are pretty crappy too.

in light of the information provided above, what sort of gameplan would you go with, offensively?

well of course that is the most effective gameplan(as it is for every team that has a powerback this season) and i'm well aware that ever since you acquired mal it has been mostly pounding it with him. i dont mind a good power running game at all. using the same play over and over again because it has been proven to be mostly unstoppable is what grates my nerves.

i would just try to be optimistic that Bort is going to fix this in the offseason... if teams are able to create their own defensive plays (probably using the defensive play creator), im pretty sure that would do the trick. look, i'm with you when it comes to the play being unstoppable... and it makes it even more difficult when its being run by a back like Mal.

but you cant blame us for the sim's flaws. its extremely hard to justify using a gameplan that isnt the most effective way to win. this is the nature of football.

ATOIAF is doing pretty much the same thing we're doing, and they also have a great back to run it. they kicked our asses with our own gameplan, so we know how it feels too. i dont think anyone wants the sim to be broken like this, but i definitely dont think ATOIAF should be messing around with passing the ball if their bread and butter is running.

i can understand why you did it. 'the ends justify the means' but still...its tough to lose like that

i feel for you, i really do. im happy my team won, but i can understand how hard it is to lose like that.

that being said, i dont think the power back's reign is going to last through next season.

Oh, yeah, one other thing, Korb: we're gunning for you for preventing another GRD vs ATOIAF playoff game. Those things are epic.

Forum traffic Vs GRD exceeds anything against anyone else, probably even more than BFM, Pimps & Berlin combined. (Yeah, I know, who gameplans against the Pimps anyway?)

Spoil sports.

Originally posted by jestel
Originally posted by Menamino

I'll sum up my thoughts in one post so people know what the 'official' berlin stance on this game is

1) Don't blame stockholm for taking advantage of the sheer stupidity of this seasons sim

2) I blame the state of the sim for the loss, not just the power back BS, but the awful pass pressure definition and QB AI currently in the game

Having said that,

the fact that a power back can run up the middle 44 times and break 5 tackles on his 45th carry with seemingly no dropoff in energy or effectiveness is beyond dumb. But again, that's the sim.

I do take issue with people telling us to fix our builds though. That's the most played out argument in GLB. No build stops the strong I slam consistently. No build prevents you from losing energy after getting run on by a power back 44 times while the RB seemingly doesn't lose any. Are my DE's builds the reason they're worthless now? No, it's because people whined all day for seasons and forced Bort to change the sim, even though the well built OTs were shutting down Magnus way back in season 4 (just ask the London Hitmen).

And I think skill position players in this game who spend 900 flex a season to boost should actually see their player do something, yes. I'm not sure what message it sends to your skill position players when you pass 7 times and their guys are just wandering around the field aimlessly for the rest of the game, but it certainly doesn't strike me as saying "keep spending flex on this game! You're a valuable member of the team!"

No build may stop it, but:

Stockholm: 22 Strong I Slam Plays (1 was a False Start), 4.16 ypc
Berlin: 21 Strong I Slam Plays 3.1 ypc

Perhaps there's more to this than the play being unstoppable.

Same 'unstoppable play', and apparently everyone's builds are outstanding, so what could be the issue?

Here's a hint...don't blame the sim.



those 2 huge broken runs kinda skewed those stats

Originally posted by jprietman
Originally posted by piratecalvin

Originally posted by jprietman


Originally posted by piratecalvin



Originally posted by jprietman




fact of the matter is, we are great when we run the ball with mal. always have been. our passing has been dismal this season. seems like when we throw the ball, we are setting ourselves up for disappointment. also the weakside runs are pretty crappy too.

in light of the information provided above, what sort of gameplan would you go with, offensively?

well of course that is the most effective gameplan(as it is for every team that has a powerback this season) and i'm well aware that ever since you acquired mal it has been mostly pounding it with him. i dont mind a good power running game at all. using the same play over and over again because it has been proven to be mostly unstoppable is what grates my nerves.

i would just try to be optimistic that Bort is going to fix this in the offseason... if teams are able to create their own defensive plays (probably using the defensive play creator), im pretty sure that would do the trick. look, i'm with you when it comes to the play being unstoppable... and it makes it even more difficult when its being run by a back like Mal.

but you cant blame us for the sim's flaws. its extremely hard to justify using a gameplan that isnt the most effective way to win. this is the nature of football.

ATOIAF is doing pretty much the same thing we're doing, and they also have a great back to run it. they kicked our asses with our own gameplan, so we know how it feels too. i dont think anyone wants the sim to be broken like this, but i definitely dont think ATOIAF should be messing around with passing the ball if their bread and butter is running.

i can understand why you did it. 'the ends justify the means' but still...its tough to lose like that

i feel for you, i really do. im happy my team won, but i can understand how hard it is to lose like that.

that being said, i dont think the power back's reign is going to last through next season.

ya it seems like with what the testers and others are saying there are going to be changes to make it more fair

Originally posted by jestel

No build may stop it, but:

Stockholm: 22 Strong I Slam Plays (1 was a False Start), 4.16 ypc
Berlin: 21 Strong I Slam Plays 3.1 ypc

Perhaps there's more to this than the play being unstoppable.

Same 'unstoppable play', and apparently everyone's builds are outstanding, so what could be the issue?

Here's a hint...don't blame the sim.




Your power back is better than ours, which is what it comes down to.

We ran 82 plays, you ran 53. So the number of strong I plays compared to the other is irrelevant.

Strong I slam was the 4th highest % called run in our playbook, after 3 wide HB slam and 2 I HB inside runs.

You guys passed 3 times in a non-two minute drill situation, we passed 40 times and ran 42.

And you may have misdirected who you said that to, because like I said before, I'm not angry with stockholm.

Originally posted by Menamino
Originally posted by jestel



Soo...Mal's power rushing game also held you guys to 10 total points even though you had the ball 33 minutes?

Damn...I didn't even know Mal was that good.

No, we moved the ball up and down the field with ease (with an actual mix of run v pass), it was brilliant QB AI in the sim like this that held us to 10 points: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=465448&pbp_id=17149961

I guess the HB on this HB primary pass play is TOO open to get the pass. Such is season 8, where people are punished for running a realistic gameplan.

We should've just run the ball up the middle every play too, but we have a bunch of guys who pay 900 flex a year to catch passes for us. We throw an INT on your 11 right before the half, it gets you a FG. We call plays to hit our wide open receivers, QB AI in the game has him throw the ball to the triple covered guy instead and it kills a drive. It happens.


Good game though. Again, not faulting you guys, this season's sim is just a gigantic step back for GLB as a whole. I would say I'm interested in who's going to strong I their way to the WEPL title, but I'm really not.

Hear hear to this...

Originally posted by piratecalvin
Originally posted by Mal

Originally posted by piratecalvin


we're gonna ball up that meat! perfectly round....
ya you better be scared

sitdown, tell iam legend that ryu is coming for him! he took it easy on him in practice before, but no mercy this time

ryu wasn't coming for Mal though..

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=465448&pbp_id=17152294


haha ya you got me that time, ryu wouldnt get back up.

but i chased you down this time
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=465448&pbp_id=17150261

Hehe.. ok ok.. nice one..

Originally posted by Arya Stark
Oh, yeah, one other thing, Korb: we're gunning for you for preventing another GRD vs ATOIAF playoff game. Those things are epic.

Forum traffic Vs GRD exceeds anything against anyone else, probably even more than BFM, Pimps & Berlin combined. (Yeah, I know, who gameplans against the Pimps anyway?)

Spoil sports.

do u remember how gunning for korb earlier this season went?

that said a po game vs GRDs would have got all the Ice n Fire players well - motivated!

Originally posted by piratecalvin
Originally posted by jestel

Originally posted by Menamino


I'll sum up my thoughts in one post so people know what the 'official' berlin stance on this game is

1) Don't blame stockholm for taking advantage of the sheer stupidity of this seasons sim

2) I blame the state of the sim for the loss, not just the power back BS, but the awful pass pressure definition and QB AI currently in the game

Having said that,

the fact that a power back can run up the middle 44 times and break 5 tackles on his 45th carry with seemingly no dropoff in energy or effectiveness is beyond dumb. But again, that's the sim.

I do take issue with people telling us to fix our builds though. That's the most played out argument in GLB. No build stops the strong I slam consistently. No build prevents you from losing energy after getting run on by a power back 44 times while the RB seemingly doesn't lose any. Are my DE's builds the reason they're worthless now? No, it's because people whined all day for seasons and forced Bort to change the sim, even though the well built OTs were shutting down Magnus way back in season 4 (just ask the London Hitmen).

And I think skill position players in this game who spend 900 flex a season to boost should actually see their player do something, yes. I'm not sure what message it sends to your skill position players when you pass 7 times and their guys are just wandering around the field aimlessly for the rest of the game, but it certainly doesn't strike me as saying "keep spending flex on this game! You're a valuable member of the team!"

No build may stop it, but:

Stockholm: 22 Strong I Slam Plays (1 was a False Start), 4.16 ypc
Berlin: 21 Strong I Slam Plays 3.1 ypc

Perhaps there's more to this than the play being unstoppable.

Same 'unstoppable play', and apparently everyone's builds are outstanding, so what could be the issue?

Here's a hint...don't blame the sim.



those 2 huge broken runs kinda skewed those stats

These 2?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=465448&pbp_id=17150261
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=465448&pbp_id=17152294

Wrong play.