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basshound3
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Originally posted by dewguru
It depends on your definition of a true TE.

Most teams at any level have structures similar to the current TE1/TE2 scheme where one TE is better at receiving while one is better at catching.


.... what?!?
 
irishpimp815
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idk about u guys but the TE1 TE2 helped by team out because our starting TE's were focused on receiving but i had a GM who created a complete blocking TE. with that feature i can make sure i have my Xtra OL out there on run plays, and my pass catching guy out there on pass plays.
 
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Originally posted by irishpimp815
idk about u guys but the TE1 TE2 helped by team out because our starting TE's were focused on receiving but i had a GM who created a complete blocking TE. with that feature i can make sure i have my Xtra OL out there on run plays, and my pass catching guy out there on pass plays.


Awesome.

Just proved the OP to be true.
 
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Originally posted by irishpimp815

idk about u guys but the TE1 TE2 helped by team out because our starting TE's were focused on receiving but i had a GM who created a complete blocking TE. with that feature i can make sure i have my Xtra OL out there on run plays, and my pass catching guy out there on pass plays.


Awesome.

Just proved the OP to be true.


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hoyaboy1
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Originally posted by Homsar16
Originally posted by Adderfist

You're right. They have 16 blocking or catching. Our bad.


I'm really sorry that the people on your teams don't know how to build.


Why would a receiving TE want to have blocking, and why would the blocking TE want to have catching? Wasted points under the current setup.
 
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Originally posted by hoyaboy1

Why would a receiving TE want to have blocking, and why would the blocking TE want to have catching? Wasted points under the current setup.


Yep.

I dislike the slots, and actually always have. They promote specialized builds, and completely negate "balanced" builds, which are what FB's and TE's are supposed to be. Not only does it promote specialized builds, it completely removes the penalties from a team for having specialized players, because they can use the best player for every situation on demand, with no consequences.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
and completely negate "balanced" builds, which are what FB's and TE's are supposed to be.


Why are they "supposed" so be balanced?

 
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Originally posted by wombat killer

Why are they "supposed" so be balanced?


Because they have dual roles.

Just like everyone is going on about how LB's SHOULD get ran over because they are built to stop elusive backs...which I agree with. FB's and TE's are encouraged to build lopsided, even though the position itself has two distinct roles.
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wombat killer
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Originally posted by Deathblade
Originally posted by wombat killer


Why are they "supposed" so be balanced?


Because they have dual roles.

Just like everyone is going on about how LB's SHOULD get ran over because they are build to stop elusive backs...which I agree with. FB's and TE's are encouraged to build lopsided, even though the position itself has two distinct roles.


You can say that about every single position. Should the QB be a scrambler or a passer? Should the WR be speedy or a possession receiver? Should a lineman be a run stopper or a pass rusher?
 
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any aggressive position has two lopsided "fringe" choices (HBs speed/power, QBs scrambler/passer, etc.) as wombat said. any passive position has to counter all of those (CB/FS/SS/LB/OL) and thus has to be very very balanced.

only rare case is CB because almost all WR builds are spd so CB can play the probability game and go high-spd
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Deathblade
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Originally posted by wombat killer

You can say that about every single position. Should the QB be a scrambler or a passer? Should the WR be speedy or a possession receiver? Should a lineman be a run stopper or a pass rusher?


Scrambler? Sure.
But a QB with zero passing ability? No.

And the difference between a a HB and FB/TE in this situation is that they serve the same role, in a different way. They run the ball. Very different from a pure receiving TE and a pure blocking TE.
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Originally posted by wombat killer
Originally posted by Deathblade

and completely negate "balanced" builds, which are what FB's and TE's are supposed to be.


Why are they "supposed" so be balanced?



A lot of FB's and TE's are "tweeners" that don't have the genetics to be a starting RB or WR but are athletic and skilled enough at the game to fill the FB and TE role (sometimes both, and in the slot). These guys are the dudes that stay with a team year after year and nobody knows who they are except for the fans of that particular team.

Brad Hoover

I salute you sir.

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oh, and to take a swing at the question. "supposed" to be balanced? well that's up in the air, but a lot are and are good at what they do. Having a skill guy that can do 2 jobs on any down (TE/FB) and can spot fill others and even play ST is a huge deal when you're only allowed to have so many players on the roster and dress even fewer to play on gameday.
Last edited Jan 8, 2009 18:46:23
 
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Originally posted by wombat killer
Originally posted by Deathblade

Originally posted by wombat killer



Why are they "supposed" so be balanced?


Because they have dual roles.

Just like everyone is going on about how LB's SHOULD get ran over because they are build to stop elusive backs...which I agree with. FB's and TE's are encouraged to build lopsided, even though the position itself has two distinct roles.


You can say that about every single position. Should the QB be a scrambler or a passer? Should the WR be speedy or a possession receiver? Should a lineman be a run stopper or a pass rusher?


Are you just arguing to argue?
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wombat killer
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Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder
Originally posted by wombat killer

Originally posted by Deathblade


Originally posted by wombat killer




Why are they "supposed" so be balanced?


Because they have dual roles.

Just like everyone is going on about how LB's SHOULD get ran over because they are build to stop elusive backs...which I agree with. FB's and TE's are encouraged to build lopsided, even though the position itself has two distinct roles.


You can say that about every single position. Should the QB be a scrambler or a passer? Should the WR be speedy or a possession receiver? Should a lineman be a run stopper or a pass rusher?


Are you just arguing to argue?

I thought we were having a discussion. ARe you just being an ass to be an ass?
 
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Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder

Originally posted by wombat killer


Originally posted by Deathblade



Originally posted by wombat killer





Why are they "supposed" so be balanced?


Because they have dual roles.

Just like everyone is going on about how LB's SHOULD get ran over because they are build to stop elusive backs...which I agree with. FB's and TE's are encouraged to build lopsided, even though the position itself has two distinct roles.


You can say that about every single position. Should the QB be a scrambler or a passer? Should the WR be speedy or a possession receiver? Should a lineman be a run stopper or a pass rusher?


Are you just arguing to argue?


I thought we were having a discussion. ARe you just being an ass to be an ass?


What are we/am I supposed to think? You've completely ignored OP's point and continue to conflate ideas of "dual role" positions with "dual skill" positions.

EDIT: Fixed for moran spelling.
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