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POOPERDOG7
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Originally posted by zz man
For those who see themselves as Dems.... That party has moved so far to the Left as to be unrecognizable. Were Kennedy alive he would be viewed as a far right racist
For those who see themselves as Repubs.....That party is a disjointed back stabbing collection of untrustworthy self centered arseholes
There is no middle ground anymore. The real legal citizens of this country still respect Law and Order Faith and the Constitution but as both sides muddy the issue with their own agendas We the People are pretty much fucked
You can hate Trump all you like but he is the only politician in recent memory who has tried to do what he said he would try to do (whether that be right or wrong) Maybe because thats because he isnt a "real" politician
For those who see themselves as Dems.... That party has moved so far to the Left as to be unrecognizable. Were Kennedy alive he would be viewed as a far right racist
For those who see themselves as Repubs.....That party is a disjointed back stabbing collection of untrustworthy self centered arseholes
There is no middle ground anymore. The real legal citizens of this country still respect Law and Order Faith and the Constitution but as both sides muddy the issue with their own agendas We the People are pretty much fucked
You can hate Trump all you like but he is the only politician in recent memory who has tried to do what he said he would try to do (whether that be right or wrong) Maybe because thats because he isnt a "real" politician
Larry Roadgrader
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Originally posted by Carnal Knowledge
Is the rest of the world supposed to be ok with Trumperica having those bombs instead of Iran. I find Trumperica equally scary to Iran atm.
That's a little silly of a statement.
Is the rest of the world supposed to be ok with Trumperica having those bombs instead of Iran. I find Trumperica equally scary to Iran atm.
That's a little silly of a statement.
Larry Roadgrader
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Originally posted by PaqMarq11
Is Goldman Sachs credible to you?
In 2026, who is and isn't "credible" is an issue-specific call, and dependent entirely on what evidence they provide. Is JP Morgan Chase credible to you? They debanked a President for political purposes.
Is Goldman Sachs credible to you?
In 2026, who is and isn't "credible" is an issue-specific call, and dependent entirely on what evidence they provide. Is JP Morgan Chase credible to you? They debanked a President for political purposes.
Larry Roadgrader
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Originally posted by Mauler
....however, if Lyndon B. Johnson didn't....
Fun fact: Roger Stone asserts that LBJ was involved in the killing of JFK, and that LBJ was in fact a serial killer. Apparently there were 8 political opponents of LBJ within the state of Texas that died over a 10-year period. LBJ had an "associate" that was found to be a hitman, and one of his preferred methods was to off his target and make it appear that the person had committed suicide, commonly arranging a running car with exhaust fumes run back into the cab of the vehicle. Since these deaths took place during the late 50s/early 60s, there was no internet and no easy way for law enforcement in backwater Texas locations to be aware that something that took place in the eastern part of the state might have any connection to something that took place 4 hours away in the western part of the state 2 years later.
....however, if Lyndon B. Johnson didn't....
Fun fact: Roger Stone asserts that LBJ was involved in the killing of JFK, and that LBJ was in fact a serial killer. Apparently there were 8 political opponents of LBJ within the state of Texas that died over a 10-year period. LBJ had an "associate" that was found to be a hitman, and one of his preferred methods was to off his target and make it appear that the person had committed suicide, commonly arranging a running car with exhaust fumes run back into the cab of the vehicle. Since these deaths took place during the late 50s/early 60s, there was no internet and no easy way for law enforcement in backwater Texas locations to be aware that something that took place in the eastern part of the state might have any connection to something that took place 4 hours away in the western part of the state 2 years later.
Edited by Larry Roadgrader on Mar 20, 2026 22:52:16
Originally posted by Mauler
He was killed by a fellow airmen if I remember correctly so not killed by the enemy. Sure other people died mostly advisors, but 99% of the 58,000 were killed after President Johnson ordered troops to South Vietnam in 1965 so he shares most of that blame don't you think?
Before 1965, the U.S. role in Vietnam was primarily an advisory, financial, and logistical mission designed to support South Vietnam against communist North Vietnam, shifting from supporting the French (1950–1954) to propping up the Diem regime. By 1962, President Kennedy increased military advisors from 900 to over 16,000.
Remember your question? WHO STARTED the Vietnam War.
I answered your question but now you want to change it, right? Now it is who was responsible for 99% of the American dead.
Sorry guy...you might want to go back to the drawing board.
He was killed by a fellow airmen if I remember correctly so not killed by the enemy. Sure other people died mostly advisors, but 99% of the 58,000 were killed after President Johnson ordered troops to South Vietnam in 1965 so he shares most of that blame don't you think?
Before 1965, the U.S. role in Vietnam was primarily an advisory, financial, and logistical mission designed to support South Vietnam against communist North Vietnam, shifting from supporting the French (1950–1954) to propping up the Diem regime. By 1962, President Kennedy increased military advisors from 900 to over 16,000.
Remember your question? WHO STARTED the Vietnam War.
I answered your question but now you want to change it, right? Now it is who was responsible for 99% of the American dead.
Sorry guy...you might want to go back to the drawing board.
Originally posted by Mauler
A little History. What political party was President when the Vietnam War started and what was the imminent threat that led to over 50,000 US soldiers dying while fighting a war we never should have been in? Like I said before, I am a registered independent voter but I know history of wars as I come from a military family, my father being in the last war that was necessary which was WWII.
lest you forget...this is your question. not who is responsible for 99% of the dead. so you have been schooled. sit down.
A little History. What political party was President when the Vietnam War started and what was the imminent threat that led to over 50,000 US soldiers dying while fighting a war we never should have been in? Like I said before, I am a registered independent voter but I know history of wars as I come from a military family, my father being in the last war that was necessary which was WWII.
lest you forget...this is your question. not who is responsible for 99% of the dead. so you have been schooled. sit down.
Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
In 2026, who is and isn't "credible" is an issue-specific call, and dependent entirely on what evidence they provide. Is JP Morgan Chase credible to you? They debanked a President for political purposes.
I was asking mauler who he thinks is credible. Because no credible financial/oil authority predicts that lower gas prices is just around the corner.
In 2026, who is and isn't "credible" is an issue-specific call, and dependent entirely on what evidence they provide. Is JP Morgan Chase credible to you? They debanked a President for political purposes.
I was asking mauler who he thinks is credible. Because no credible financial/oil authority predicts that lower gas prices is just around the corner.
Originally posted by PaqMarq11
lest you forget...this is your question. not who is responsible for 99% of the dead. so you have been schooled. sit down.
You have your opinion and I have mine as killing 58,000 US soldiers for no good reason was caused by a Democrat, not Republican with the imminent threat being Communism which is the point I was trying to make in the beginning. No formal declaration of war was passed by Congress at any time for Vietnam so reaching a unanimous agreement on a precise date will never happen so it was a trick question on which each individual will form their own opinion. You see JFK and the President's before him were never going to put boots on the ground mostly because they were afraid of China getting involved and also why they never declared a war on Vietnam back then. It wasn't until 1964 that Congress gave the rights to the President to enter troops into Vietnam(boots on the ground). Before that is was mostly Military Advisors teaching the South Vietnamese how to fight. By the way, our first involvement in this war was actually in 1945 when Truman was President if that matters. Think we pretty much covered Vietnam and our opinions on that matter so do you care to comment on what ZZ said which was pretty much spot on with how a majority of Americans feel today? I mean these Congressmen/women are supposed to be working for the people and not their own agendas so it is time for that ignorance to stop or just vote them all out which should probably happen anyway.
lest you forget...this is your question. not who is responsible for 99% of the dead. so you have been schooled. sit down.
You have your opinion and I have mine as killing 58,000 US soldiers for no good reason was caused by a Democrat, not Republican with the imminent threat being Communism which is the point I was trying to make in the beginning. No formal declaration of war was passed by Congress at any time for Vietnam so reaching a unanimous agreement on a precise date will never happen so it was a trick question on which each individual will form their own opinion. You see JFK and the President's before him were never going to put boots on the ground mostly because they were afraid of China getting involved and also why they never declared a war on Vietnam back then. It wasn't until 1964 that Congress gave the rights to the President to enter troops into Vietnam(boots on the ground). Before that is was mostly Military Advisors teaching the South Vietnamese how to fight. By the way, our first involvement in this war was actually in 1945 when Truman was President if that matters. Think we pretty much covered Vietnam and our opinions on that matter so do you care to comment on what ZZ said which was pretty much spot on with how a majority of Americans feel today? I mean these Congressmen/women are supposed to be working for the people and not their own agendas so it is time for that ignorance to stop or just vote them all out which should probably happen anyway.
Edited by Mauler on Mar 21, 2026 07:33:37
Edited by Mauler on Mar 21, 2026 06:53:02
Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Fun fact: Roger Stone asserts that LBJ was involved in the killing of JFK, and that LBJ was in fact a serial killer. Apparently there were 8 political opponents of LBJ within the state of Texas that died over a 10-year period. LBJ had an "associate" that was found to be a hitman, and one of his preferred methods was to off his target and make it appear that the person had committed suicide, commonly arranging a running car with exhaust fumes run back into the cab of the vehicle. Since these deaths took place during the late 50s/early 60s, there was no internet and no easy way for law enforcement in backwater Texas locations to be aware that something that took place in the eastern part of the state might have any connection to something that took place 4 hours away in the western part of the state 2 years later.
Thought it was the Mob who did that? Anywho, that is just another thing we will never know TBH. Just more smoke and mirrors!
Fun fact: Roger Stone asserts that LBJ was involved in the killing of JFK, and that LBJ was in fact a serial killer. Apparently there were 8 political opponents of LBJ within the state of Texas that died over a 10-year period. LBJ had an "associate" that was found to be a hitman, and one of his preferred methods was to off his target and make it appear that the person had committed suicide, commonly arranging a running car with exhaust fumes run back into the cab of the vehicle. Since these deaths took place during the late 50s/early 60s, there was no internet and no easy way for law enforcement in backwater Texas locations to be aware that something that took place in the eastern part of the state might have any connection to something that took place 4 hours away in the western part of the state 2 years later.
Thought it was the Mob who did that? Anywho, that is just another thing we will never know TBH. Just more smoke and mirrors!
Originally posted by POOPERDOG7
hey fellas good morn hows the coffee today?
mine needs more caffeine
hey fellas good morn hows the coffee today?
mine needs more caffeine
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