Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Novus
Stop embarrasing yourself with this absurd line of reasoning. We are part of the same species. We share the same basic genetic code. Assuming you're an American citizen, the God-given rights delineated in the Constitution apply to us both equally, as do the laws of the United States. We have equal standing in court. Your vote and my vote in elections count exactly the same. If there's an afterlife and we both qualify for salvation, we'll both go to the same heaven, and if we both do not qualify, we'll both go to the same hell. And as paying-members-in-good-standing of this website, we both have the right to fully participate in this game and in the accompanying forums.


You covered just about all of it, but I can't help notice you forgot alien intervention. Do you have the same rights to salvation when the aliens come to move us to our new planet?

Originally posted by mike_hart10
Holy crap...I come in here to learn about the inner workings of the inherently evil CPU teams & it feels like I got stuck in the Looney Bin at an Ivy League school...can't you two just kiss and make up already? DAMN!!!


.....gotta get more popcorn.......

Originally posted by reddogrw
you aren't equals at playing this game, which is all that really matters in this particular forum

jdbolick isn't right about everything. He just thinks he is.

I'm not wrong about everything. jdbolick just thinks I am.

Originally posted by jdbolick
You not realizing stratification within species illustrates precisely the inferiority I'm talking about. Fortunately humans are blessed to live in a world where you can exist despite your limitations instead of being eaten.
Last time I checked, we're both hairless apes with limited strength, no claws, and relatively blunt teeth. Put both of us in an arena with no weapons and 2 tigers, and we're both gonna be tiger food, no matter how thorough your grasp on an online football game is or how witty your message board banter is.

We're equals. Sorry if that thought disturbs you, which it clearly does, but sometimes the truth is disturbing. Deal with it.

Originally posted by jdbolick
I have never pretended that I had any authority to make you stop posting. I have merely posited the reality that you're an obnoxious poster with an extremely limited intellect that leads you to be constantly wrong and offer almost nothing of value at any point in your GLB existence. You had that one playoff post in the WL that I praised you for, and that's pretty much all you have to show for the last five years.

That's your opinion. It's an opinion that is not shared by nearly as many people as you think it's shared by. And your opinion of me matters about as much as my opinion of you.

Regardless of however you've phrased your desire for me to quit posting, I'm going to ignore it and continue posting anyway. Deal with it.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Yes, you most certainly have. You never mentioned anything about "elite" leagues until provided with numerous examples of successful teams losing to CPUs. Not once. You absolutely never mentioned "elite" as a qualification until after proven wrong with those examples. And as noted, the main reason it doesn't happen in elite is because elite rarely has any CPU teams. Because you are so mentally limited, you still don't grasp the concept of CPU scaling and how that can cause an undefeated team to lose to a CPU roster that got blown out by some truly bad human teams.

Here's an idea: instead of both of us just spouting the same arguments back and forth at each other, how about we put our money where our mouths are?

I'll buy an existing CPU in Regional Pro team... this one seems apropos: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=218. I'll set up an optimized roster of CPU dots, set up the offense, defense, and depth charts, and then I'll schedule a bunch of scrims with your teams: the Grand Banks Bluenoses and Ultimate Fighting Championship, or any other teams you'd like. I'll even donate the flex to those teams to cover the cost of the scrims. And then -- here's the key part -- I'll sell the team back before the scrims. The roster, offense, defense, and depth charts should all remain in place (unless I've mis-remembered something), and the scrims will still stay scheduled as well. That way, when the scrims take place, the CPU dots won't be penalized for having a human owner, so they'll be at full-strength with no penalties.

Then we'll have some actual data to look at: a CPU team full of CPU dots, taking on some of the strongest teams in GLB history.

If you like, I'll even let you pick other people to set up the offense, defense and/or roster for the CPU team if you think my efforts will hamper the CPU dots too badly. And at your teams' end, just do what a lot of people do when facing a CPU team: run the same gameplan you used in your previous game against a real opponent, or run a generic gameplan. Just make a token effort to win, and don't do anything silly to try to lose like putting your DT at QB or anything like that.

I can even add a message to the Team Note before I sell it back, explaining what's going on and asking people not to buy the team. Heck, I can even ask Support to lock the team out for the duration of the experiment, just to protect its integrity.

If the CPU team wins even one of the scrims, then you'll be proven right, I'll be proven wrong, and we'll be able to take actual data to Bort and Catch showing that something's wrong with the scaling on CPU dots.

If the CPU team goes winless, I'll do it all again if you want to try it again.

What do you say, jdbolick?

o dear

i am not reading all of this bullshi

Originally posted by Novus
We're equals. Sorry if that thought disturbs you, which it clearly does, but sometimes the truth is disturbing. Deal with it.
I don't know why I expect you to understand the concept of "equality" when you've never demonstrated the ability to understand anything. Most likely your stubborn insistence that "everyone is equal" derives from childhood tales designed to boost your self-esteem.

Originally posted by
Here's an idea: instead of both of us just spouting the same arguments back and forth at each other, how about we put our money where our mouths are?
You've already been proven wrong, just as you've already proven that you cannot grasp even an inkling of how CPU scaling works. Answer me this, do you honestly think anyone on GLB thinks that you're knowledgeable about any subject whatsoever? And if you answer in the affirmative, please point me to the person and the subject.

Originally posted by
What do you say, jdbolick?
I say that your "challenge" continues to illustrate that you're completely clueless about how CPU scaling works. Running that experiment wouldn't actually show anything. And kudos for PM blocking me after I messaged you about the difference between saying someone "can't" post versus saying they "shouldn't." Evidently one of the other ways we're unequal is that I'm not a vagina.

Originally posted by jdbolick
I don't know why I expect you to understand the concept of "equality" when you've never demonstrated the ability to understand anything. Most likely your stubborn insistence that "everyone is equal" derives from childhood tales designed to boost your self-esteem.

Your narcissism is showing, jd.

Originally posted by jdbolick
You've already been proven wrong, just as you've already proven that you cannot grasp even an inkling of how CPU scaling works. Answer me this, do you honestly think anyone on GLB thinks that you're knowledgeable about any subject whatsoever? And if you answer in the affirmative, please point me to the person and the subject.

Why? So you can just claim that whoever I name is an idiot and ignore them? I owe you nothing on this subject.

Originally posted by jdbolick
I say that your "challenge" continues to illustrate that you're completely clueless about how CPU scaling works. Running that experiment wouldn't actually show anything.

So, you're afraid you might be proven wrong then. Gotcha.

Originally posted by jdbolick
And kudos for PM blocking me after I messaged you about the difference between saying someone "can't" post versus saying they "shouldn't." Evidently one of the other ways we're unequal is that I'm not a vagina.

So, you're also afraid to converse with me in public where everyone else can see what you're saying?

You've reverted to form as always, jdbolick: you've stopped giving your trademark mix of logical arguments combined with personal insults, and now you're just dishing out personal insults.

Since you're unwilling to put your theory to a rigorous challenge or to engage me on a reasonable level, I have nothing more to add to this thread. I'm going to go find something better to do with my time now.

Here, let me make it easy for the 2 of you in this penis measuring contest...mine is bigger than both of yours. There, now you guys can move on.

Originally posted by Novus
Your narcissism is showing, jd.
No shit, as is your buffoonery.

Originally posted by
Why? So you can just claim that whoever I name is an idiot and ignore them? I owe you nothing on this subject.
Because I'm trying to force you to think about the perception and reality of inequality.

Originally posted by
So, you're afraid you might be proven wrong then. Gotcha.
I've already been proven correct. You don't even have the slightest clue how scaling works, much less how that relates to the issue.

Originally posted by
So, you're also afraid to converse with me in public where everyone else can see what you're saying?
I was actually trying to move pointless bickering from the main forums to a more private venue. The only thing I'm afraid of in publicly conversing with you is being seen as someone beating up a cripple.

...I asked Novus for help...and he helped me. I hope I'm not an idiot.

#teamNovus

That CPU is a sneaky mo fo

Originally posted by Novus
Last time I checked, we're both hairless apes with limited strength, no claws, and relatively blunt teeth. Put both of us in an arena with no weapons and 2 tigers, and we're both gonna be tiger food, no matter how thorough your grasp on an online football game is or how witty your message board banter is.

We're equals. Sorry if that thought disturbs you, which it clearly does, but sometimes the truth is disturbing. Deal with it.

Um... at the risk of keyboard warfare here... gonna disagree with you AT LEAST on this part, Novus. The one thing I've got over the ape is a brain that can seriously out-think Mr. Ape. And while I might eventually end up losing to the tiger, I damn sure can outlast the ape. And, maybe, even make Mr. Tiger reconsider his meal selection. I don't need weapons to inflict serious damage... I have a mind for that.

Originally posted by Novus
Here's an idea: instead of both of us just spouting the same arguments back and forth at each other, how about we put our money where our mouths are?

I'll buy an existing CPU in Regional Pro team... this one seems apropos: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=218. I'll set up an optimized roster of CPU dots, set up the offense, defense, and depth charts, and then I'll schedule a bunch of scrims with your teams: the Grand Banks Bluenoses and Ultimate Fighting Championship, or any other teams you'd like. I'll even donate the flex to those teams to cover the cost of the scrims. And then -- here's the key part -- I'll sell the team back before the scrims. The roster, offense, defense, and depth charts should all remain in place (unless I've mis-remembered something), and the scrims will still stay scheduled as well. That way, when the scrims take place, the CPU dots won't be penalized for having a human owner, so they'll be at full-strength with no penalties.

Then we'll have some actual data to look at: a CPU team full of CPU dots, taking on some of the strongest teams in GLB history.

If you like, I'll even let you pick other people to set up the offense, defense and/or roster for the CPU team if you think my efforts will hamper the CPU dots too badly. And at your teams' end, just do what a lot of people do when facing a CPU team: run the same gameplan you used in your previous game against a real opponent, or run a generic gameplan. Just make a token effort to win, and don't do anything silly to try to lose like putting your DT at QB or anything like that.

I can even add a message to the Team Note before I sell it back, explaining what's going on and asking people not to buy the team. Heck, I can even ask Support to lock the team out for the duration of the experiment, just to protect its integrity.

If the CPU team wins even one of the scrims, then you'll be proven right, I'll be proven wrong, and we'll be able to take actual data to Bort and Catch showing that something's wrong with the scaling on CPU dots.

If the CPU team goes winless, I'll do it all again if you want to try it again.

What do you say, jdbolick?

do this , please

Originally posted by Novus
Here's an idea: instead of both of us just spouting the same arguments back and forth at each other, how about we put our money where our mouths are?

I'll buy an existing CPU in Regional Pro team... this one seems apropos: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=218. I'll set up an optimized roster of CPU dots, set up the offense, defense, and depth charts, and then I'll schedule a bunch of scrims with your teams: the Grand Banks Bluenoses and Ultimate Fighting Championship, or any other teams you'd like. I'll even donate the flex to those teams to cover the cost of the scrims. And then -- here's the key part -- I'll sell the team back before the scrims. The roster, offense, defense, and depth charts should all remain in place (unless I've mis-remembered something), and the scrims will still stay scheduled as well. That way, when the scrims take place, the CPU dots won't be penalized for having a human owner, so they'll be at full-strength with no penalties.

Then we'll have some actual data to look at: a CPU team full of CPU dots, taking on some of the strongest teams in GLB history.

If you like, I'll even let you pick other people to set up the offense, defense and/or roster for the CPU team if you think my efforts will hamper the CPU dots too badly. And at your teams' end, just do what a lot of people do when facing a CPU team: run the same gameplan you used in your previous game against a real opponent, or run a generic gameplan. Just make a token effort to win, and don't do anything silly to try to lose like putting your DT at QB or anything like that.

I can even add a message to the Team Note before I sell it back, explaining what's going on and asking people not to buy the team. Heck, I can even ask Support to lock the team out for the duration of the experiment, just to protect its integrity.

If the CPU team wins even one of the scrims, then you'll be proven right, I'll be proven wrong, and we'll be able to take actual data to Bort and Catch showing that something's wrong with the scaling on CPU dots.

If the CPU team goes winless, I'll do it all again if you want to try it again.

What do you say, jdbolick?


Lower levels... reg pro and above this is a mute point and a waste of experimental data IMO

Semi-pro and under is where the data is really more beneficial as it would show up more as dots have not reached plateau.

Semi-Pro CPUs:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1132
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1758
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1274

Semi Pro is still a waste of data because of VA's and partial AEQ's.

Regional Minor to Rookie is the only place where CPU's should have any sort of chance being coached by real AI's. If you lose to them after Regional Minor you just put out a shitty performance.