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Originally posted by BagO'Chips


Forcing people to retire would cause a huge stir...
The D-Leagues are a problem, have you not read the OP? People are just stat-whoring in D-Leagues when they could be on a team that needs players. It's not as easy to stat-whore in lower level leagues.
People don't use the D-Leagues as a placeholder despite what they tell you. They are stat-whoring.
You seem to contradict yourself and make yourself look dumb. Auto-retire? The OP's suggestion would fix this. Other posts you have made in suggestions are ridiculous as well. You make a suggestion within the suggestion that suggests the same damn thing, only more work.

+1

Originally posted by whatadai
Um...when creating a player the need for QB says average so there's already a problem there, it's not on low like HB. Then there's people who want to make developmental QBs like me, who doesn't have have a team this year, but has one lined up for next season that hasn't been bought yet. Everyone has their own reasons for creating a player, I'd rather there be enough teams for them to at least retain the agent for the game. Maybe someone just wants to make a test build too? And who says the QBs that are being created in excess are good? Maybe this one guy who wants to create one is better than most of the ones that were created before him and he wants to have the player develop in the league?

And if a new agent wants to create a QB...let him...cause the first thing you want to do is to retain new agents who will end up creating more players at other positions when he starts getting addicted to the game. Making them leave cause they can't find a team won't help the shortage at other positions.

Edit: It's not that Guppy's stupid...just misunderstood the post really. Mistake on my part.

Originally posted by whatadai
Um...when creating a player the need for QB says average so there's already a problem there, it's not on low like HB.

common sense loses again. it shouldnt matter whether it says average, low, or high. it also tells people 2.5 QB per team. common sense should tell any one who isn't a total moron that that QB had better have a team lined up or they will have trouble finding a team as not too many teams carry 3 QBs, with many carrying only 1. i agree that the "demand" needs to be more realistic. HB could even be revamped since so many teams carry more than 3 these days.

now, as i've stated many times, take away stats and trophies from d leagues, and i could care less if there are a million d teams, but as long as their inflated stats count as much as real stats, then it isnt far to the community as a whole . i only remember seeing it once, but i'm sure it happens more often where a player sits in the d league and gets the MVP eq. then moves into the real league. lower level mvp is blah, but higher up, mvp eq is a nice advantage.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
common sense loses again. it shouldnt matter whether it says average, low, or high. it also tells people 2.5 QB per team. common sense should tell any one who isn't a total moron that that QB had better have a team lined up or they will have trouble finding a team as not too many teams carry 3 QBs, with many carrying only 1. i agree that the "demand" needs to be more realistic. HB could even be revamped since so many teams carry more than 3 these days.

now, as i've stated many times, take away stats and trophies from d leagues, and i could care less if there are a million d teams, but as long as their inflated stats count as much as real stats, then it isnt far to the community as a whole . i only remember seeing it once, but i'm sure it happens more often where a player sits in the d league and gets the MVP eq. then moves into the real league. lower level mvp is blah, but higher up, mvp eq is a nice advantage.

None of that is common sense to a NEW AGENT.. I'm pretty sure when I joined GLB years ago that I didn't know how many teams were in GLB to really understand what 2.5 QBs per team meant. I didn't spend hours researching every little part of the game to know if I liked it or not. I created a player and learned as I went. A quick trial to see if it's a game I'd be interested in playing long-term. I test many games and browser games this way before paying for it. The way developmental leagues are handled now...paying customers who are creating low demand positions aren't able to find teams...yet paying customers who buy higher leveled teams aren't able to find players because they're still in the developmental leagues stat whoring. It's basically making it extremely difficult to impossible for team owners to field a team and for new low leveled players to develop. It's a great way of annoying your paying and potential paying members and chase them away.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
common sense loses again. it shouldnt matter whether it says average, low, or high. it also tells people 2.5 QB per team. common sense should tell any one who isn't a total moron that that QB had better have a team lined up or they will have trouble finding a team as not too many teams carry 3 QBs, with many carrying only 1. i agree that the "demand" needs to be more realistic. HB could even be revamped since so many teams carry more than 3 these days.

now, as i've stated many times, take away stats and trophies from d leagues, and i could care less if there are a million d teams, but as long as their inflated stats count as much as real stats, then it isnt far to the community as a whole . i only remember seeing it once, but i'm sure it happens more often where a player sits in the d league and gets the MVP eq. then moves into the real league. lower level mvp is blah, but higher up, mvp eq is a nice advantage.


Do you not understand that this is supposed to target new players. I said this already...new players don't give two shits, they're going to create the glamor position no matter what the 'demand' is. For them they just want to have fun, and having fun for them is creating that QB/RB/WR. So find a way to make room for rookies by getting rid of some stat-whoring vets. This is a good suggestion, as it will keep newer players here longer, so I don't see the downside to this.

you guys do realize that this thread is about getting rid of the upper level d leagues which a new player would not be involved with. new agents to this game will probably always need rookie d leagues because nothing about glb is intuitive when you 1st start. but since new agents are likely to use their free player which can rarely be a qb or hb, the "this is about new agents" really doesnt hold much water these days. go back thru the threads this offseason, and most of the complaints about not getting any offers (and not the slow coming offers) are from long time agents whining about their QBs.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
you guys do realize that this thread is about getting rid of the upper level d leagues which a new player would not be involved with. new agents to this game will probably always need rookie d leagues because nothing about glb is intuitive when you 1st start. but since new agents are likely to use their free player which can rarely be a qb or hb, the "this is about new agents" really doesnt hold much water these days. go back thru the threads this offseason, and most of the complaints about not getting any offers (and not the slow coming offers) are from long time agents whining about their QBs.

And the thread says to convert all higher level D-Leagues into Rookie D-Leagues. Most of the threads are probably from old agents because either: they knew they should've got an offer, most new agents don't post in the forums, or the new agent left because he couldn't get on a team.

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Originally posted by BagO'Chips
And the thread says to convert all higher level D-Leagues into Rookie D-Leagues. Most of the threads are probably from old agents because either: they knew they should've got an offer, most new agents don't post in the forums, or the new agent left because he couldn't get on a team.

ok, i'll give ya that one. i totally missed the "convert" part of the OP as it makes no sense to convert leagues. if there are already too many rookie d leagues, why create more? just get rid of the higher level d leagues, and keep the current policy of adding how ever many d leagues that are needed. now i see what you are talking about when you said that i misread....lol.. i did totally read that line as meaning something totally different based on the title.

EDIT: cant believe that i misspelled "SENSE" yet again.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
ok, i'll give ya that one. i totally missed the "convert" part of the OP as it makes no since to convert leagues. if there are already too many rookie d leagues, why create more? just get rid of the higher level d leagues, and keep the current policy of adding how ever many d leagues that are needed. now i see what you are talking about when you said that i misread....lol.. i did totally read that line as meaning something totally different based on the title.

The OP did not really clearly state this, but if you read it a few times you'll understand. So does this change your outlook on the suggestion now?

i've long been in favor of getting rid of the higher d leagues, and always will be unless there's a drastic uptick in available players. it seems like we are on the same side, with the big difference being that you argued that new agents are still creating QBs, whereas I dont see it being the case now with the free players for new agents and not 400 FP that they could do anything they wanted with. altho its not impossible to create a free HB or QB, the window to do so is very small. and i dont see new agents going "oh, i cant create a qb so i'll spend money on a game i've never played in order to do so" as soon as they sign up. i believe based on forums that the people creating excess QBs are the existing agents who should know better after all these seasons.

so the only way i'd be in favor of keeping higher level d leagues is if my suggestion at the end of page 1 was implemented.

What this really all comes down to for most is that the majority of teams that look for players on the d-leagues are not worth playing for. Just because you get rid of the d-leagues under any capacity does not mean that those players will automatically sign with a human controlled team. They could potentially sign with a cpu team but that cpu team should be locked out from being bought by at least the first game or first preseason game. If Bort really wanted to fix the unbalanced competition he could limit the amount of teams that are available to be bought in the first place. By having fewer human owned teams it would be more likely those rosters would be filled. Of course though that would not go over well because there would be too many people complaining about that and it would ultimately never happen. The simple fact is that most people are in the d-leagues because they either have not found the right human ran team they prefer or they want no part of a human ran team or human ran league period.

Originally posted by vikingspwr
NGTH http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1470434

Team/GM Function Related
Any changes to how the D-leagues currently operate and function



If you try and tell people they have to play on your team "or else." You will get "or else" and they will find another game to play.

In the end you still dont have any players on your team.

Originally posted by RiverRat2


If you try and tell people they have to play on your team "or else." You will get "or else" and they will find another game to play.

In the end you still dont have any players on your team.

Amen to that!

Originally posted by RiverRat2
Originally posted by vikingspwr

NGTH http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1470434

Team/GM Function Related
Any changes to how the D-leagues currently operate and function



If you try and tell people they have to play on your team "or else." You will get "or else" and they will find another game to play.

In the end you still dont have any players on your team.
If you get rid of the D-leagues they can still sign on with all the CPU teams filling out leagues if they can't handle being around people. They don't have to sign with anyones team, they should just play with the rest of use and not hide away from everyone else.