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SuperKing
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Originally posted by derenzy
it's not fair that the #1 dline get's a pass rusher like that



Wow, an intelligent comment.
 
Lukesdad
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Originally posted by demonicangel
These sub forums are a waste of space. The ones that have the magic ratio dont really divulge there secrets. This is more of a bragging place but I will give you my build. It doesnt work worth a damn, so you might want to try a different route.

Strength: 67.18 Blocking: 20.7
Speed: 49.33 Tackling: 32.93
Agility: 46.24 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 14.77 Catching: 8.47
Stamina: 30.63 Carrying: 9
Vision: 32.2 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 24.31 Punting: 8

in this one all equipment is on strenght. Ive tried with around 50 strenght and 55 agility didnt work, same with speed. I dunno, maybe this will help you.


54651


Ur in a pro league and getting ok stats. I'd be happy if i was u
 
TheKingOfVa
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Originally posted by derenzy
you need mental help my friend!
lets see, 5 sacks with the league your in? and your the RDE so never doubled..... gimme a break. your guy is a joke.
the only close game yo'uve had you lost and you say I PLAY cupcake teams? give me a f'n break.

Schedule and Scores
Date Opponent Score
06/13/2008 Tasmania Dragons W 22-0
06/15/2008 at Newark Thrashers W 100-0
06/17/2008 Miama Phins W 66-0
06/19/2008 at Cook Island Convicts W 72-0
06/21/2008 Collector Planet Galaxy W 36-0
06/23/2008 at Darwin Survivors W 54-3
06/25/2008 Palau Princes W 40-10
06/27/2008 at Fiji Storm W 115-0
06/29/2008 Sydney Pelicans W 19-3

Look at your last couple games. tha'ts patetic, but still i play cupcakkes....right.

two of the teams i just checked, one has a level 6 TACKLE you went up against, 15 levels lower then you! AHAHAHHA i've never had that big of a cupcake, and the other one i checked was level 14, 7 levels lower then you.

those are the first two teams i checked.....and you got 3 hurries and ZERO sacks......you got 1 hurry and 1 tackle matched up against a level 6 OT.

but still you call out me?? ahhaha your a JOKE.
i will stop the embarrasment and not even look at your other games.

level 6 vs. 21. com'n guy
the level 20's i play are in range of me.

i'ts one thing to pad your stats on cupcake teams, i'ts another thing to get WORKEd by the cupcakes son




Are you serious when did I ever face a lvl 6? My de is only a lvl 21 in a league with a lvl 22 average including facing lvl 24 and lvl 23 tackles. Your a lvl 24 in a lvl 21 league facing lvl 15's to get your sacks. When did I ever say I had the best de? Also don't make it seem like my DE sucks, he lead our leagues in hurries last year despite playing 10 less plays per game. He had 3 sacks 2 games ago vs a team that was stacked(undefeated before they faced us), not a cup cake team. This year he is number 2 in hurries and once again in the top ten for sacks. He also has 3 career int's and a safety. Your de plays over 58 plays a game because your defense doesn't force 3 and outs plus you never sit out in blow out games (all my players do). I never claimed to be a pass rushing expert (I'm a team owner and not that concerned with padding stats), bragged but never contributed an ounce of knowledge, I never begged people for money, or spammed the boards. That's everything your doing and it's annoying. If your not here to help people then stop posting spam on the boards and get a job to buy flex points.
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derenzy
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look at your recent games....and cound how many times the oposition did NOT score and how many games you guys have won by 60+ and you say i play gutted teams? geesh!

lies lies lies.
look at your 100-0 game.
4 min. left in fourth quarter and your still in the game....but...geesh... you say you sit on blowouts...hmm....interesting.
 
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ok ok....no more nomore.

one question....how is my LEAGue a level 21 league...?

i am one rung under the USA pros...in which the mods/creators play

your in the Oceania AAA #2
give mea break
 
TheKingOfVa
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Originally posted by derenzy
look at your recent games....and cound how many times the oposition did NOT score and how many games you guys have won by 60+ and you say i play gutted teams? geesh!

lies lies lies.
look at your 100-0 game.
4 min. left in fourth quarter and your still in the game....but...geesh... you say you sit on blowouts...hmm....interesting.


We have starters forced in the redzone. Oceanic AAA is one level under the pro league, most players are at my level. It's even competition if not better. Your two levels ahead of everyone in your league. Well you got enough attention for the week now craw back in that trash can you came out of.
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Since this guy likes to toot his own horn, I figured I'd throw something together to help alleviate some of my boredom today. I'll give it to him that he's got a good build for a level 24 DE, but...

Game Lvl ROT* # Sacks
1 21 0
2 24 1
3 17 3
4 22 5
5 19 10
6 21 5
7 24 1
8 20 1
9 20 2
10 19 7
11 22 1

*Current level of OT not level at time of game.

17 of his sacks came in games where he was at least 5 levels higher than his competition. I say "at least" because we all know that you level much quicker at lower levels than you do after you get to level 20. So chance are that he was 6 to 7 levels higher than the ROTs where he had his best games.
 
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Originally posted by demonicangel
These sub forums are a waste of space. The ones that have the magic ratio dont really divulge there secrets. This is more of a bragging place but I will give you my build. It doesnt work worth a damn, so you might want to try a different route.

Strength: 67.18 Blocking: 20.7
Speed: 49.33 Tackling: 32.93
Agility: 46.24 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 14.77 Catching: 8.47
Stamina: 30.63 Carrying: 9
Vision: 32.2 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 24.31 Punting: 8

in this one all equipment is on strenght. Ive tried with around 50 strenght and 55 agility didnt work, same with speed. I dunno, maybe this will help you.


54651


I'd suggest splitting equipment evenly between strength and agility. Add one to either First Step or Shed Block every level for the next few levels. Get one of those up to 11. With the spare skill points from levelling get agility and strength to soft cap. I prefer first step, but most people on this board prefer shed block.

In limited data (my last two games) I haven't done well. The recent change is my equipment. I took 2 Stamina, 2 Vision, 1 Blocking, and 1 Speed off. I added it to Strength and Agility. My recent decline could be due to any or all of those attributes.
 
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Originally posted by derenzy
it's not fair that the #1 dline get's a pass rusher like that


sorry but the #1 dlinemen is already held by lawrence jackson.
 
shaun123987
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Hey how would this look at level 19 for a DE?:

Strength: 41 Blocking: 10.2
Speed: 31 Tackling: 25
Agility: 41 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 10.2 Catching: 10
Stamina: 25 Carrying: 8
Vision: 10.2 Kicking: 10
Confidence: 10.2 Punting: 8

0-0-0-0-0
5-5-5-5-1
 
shaun123987
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I am worried about where I should put my points. I'm only level 2 and this is the build:

Strength: 29.5 Blocking: 10.2
Speed: 17.5 Tackling: 13.5
Agility: 24.5 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 10.2 Catching: 10
Stamina: 14.16 Carrying: 8
Vision: 10.2 Kicking: 10
Confidence: 10.2 Punting: 8

No SAs.

I'm not sure where I should keep putting points and all that and when I should get my SAs up. Should I get strength to 48, then agility, then speed up some? If I get one attribute up at a time, when do I work on others like tackling and stamina? When do I go back to workin on my main attributes after I get them high individually?
 
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king you should own them. you are the RDE and never get doubled. i destroy double teams and put up big numbers.
congrats, your last game you were matched up against a level 17....5 levels under you. some competition

even worse against FJ you faced off on a level 14....ZERO SACK

and OOPS! i'ts 2 min left in the game, they are on their OWN 30 (not red zone, 70 yards away from pay dirt) and ....what's this... YOUR STILL IN THE GAME! hmm.....tha'ts funny. first you say you are taken out on blow outs, then you are put in for red zone.... non of that matches up for this situation.

hmmm...lets keep going
newark has a level 6 LT, maybe he wasn't there when you played them, but the play by play has a level 12 matched up against you.

wow. those three added together is wayyyyy weaker then all mine added together for differnce...

but still...I AM the cupcake killer and gutted team lover....
get real
 
derenzy
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Originally posted by derenzy
it's not fair that the #1 dline get's a pass rusher like that

sorry but the #1 dlinemen is already held by lawrence jackson.

this was for real NFL terms talking about the ViQueens
 
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Originally posted by shaun123987
I am worried about where I should put my points. I'm only level 2 and this is the build:

Strength: 29.5 Blocking: 10.2
Speed: 17.5 Tackling: 13.5
Agility: 24.5 Throwing: 8
Jumping: 10.2 Catching: 10
Stamina: 14.16 Carrying: 8
Vision: 10.2 Kicking: 10
Confidence: 10.2 Punting: 8

No SAs.

I'm not sure where I should keep putting points and all that and when I should get my SAs up. Should I get strength to 48, then agility, then speed up some? If I get one attribute up at a time, when do I work on others like tackling and stamina? When do I go back to workin on my main attributes after I get them high individually?


Automatic Skill Improvement By Leveling

Every time your player gets 1000 XP, he levels. In addition to providing 5 skill points for you to distribute as you see fit, your player also improves skills important to his position. 2 points are divided amongst the "major" skills for the position while 1 point is spread over the "minor" skills for the position.

DE
Major: Strength, Tackling, Agility, Speed
Minor: Blocking, Confidence, Vision, Jumping, Stamina

When you get to level 20 - 21 you will not get 3 points anymore, but only 2.5 ( 0.38 to major and 0.18 to minor )

When a player get 48.x in one stat, it will cost 2 SP to raise that stat 1 point, when he get to 58.x it will cost 3 SP to raise that stat 1 point.

So you have to raise the most important stats to 48.x as fast as posible, and for a DE that will be Agility - Strenght - Speed, if it was my player i will raise agility to 48.x first, and train strength, then i will raise strenght to 48.x and train speed and then i will raise speed to 48.x and train vision - tackling until they are 25+


 
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Once I get all 3 of them to 48, should I work on other things like stamina, tackling, and vision, until they get decent and then go back to working on strength, agility, and speed?
 
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