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yello1
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I have to say that

1) The Second Punch is caught Mod Effect does seem to be real and should probably be looked out for more. If someone else started it, keep that in mind before handing out the red cards.

2) Less Modding. This has to be subjective, but I concur. Way too many valid discussions of points of general interest get locked up for no really good reason. That's not helpful to anyone. And while trolling is not to be encouraged, some modicum of banter should be, because it makes the forums interesting. That said, racism and so forth needs to always be eradicated as well as truly offensive attacks that are devoid of humor.
 
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Cuz yeah, we totally need to re-hash that thread some more. I got tired of it when I was doing it.

EDIT: Bleah, got SNIPAH'd by yello1.
Edited by Novus on Aug 21, 2012 13:49:00
 
Packers27
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Oh, I gotta get in this conversation.

First off, the inconsistantancy of the mods and their different opinions about things are some of the problem. Don't get me wrong, everyone has an opinion but rules are rules and public forums should consistantly and effectively be monitored and they should hand out punishment for anyone who breaks these rules and favoritism should be thrown out he door. Whether you wanna admit it or not, is irrelevant. The fact is, is that it goes on.

Second, some of you are talking about "public forums" and the mods are talking about kids playing the game. Let's just pretend that I didn't see one mod post on this thread about the site being PG-13ish for the minors and another mod's post says, "Kids under 15 is just about nil". This is what I'm talking about. Besides all that, what stops any GLB account member from being in this forum? This forum is as public as the other ones some of you mods here have mentioned. Is that not right? My point is, this thread already has its share of cursing in it so why isn't there any punishments thrown out already? My damn point exactly!!

Third, all this being said, either the rules continue to be bent and get GLB out of this "so-called" PG-13 rating, or the mods can do their jobs by keeping this game under control from the member's behavior perspective and follow the rules.

Fourth, All mods should have their own "jurisdiction" and a second rule book should be made for moderators to follow. If for any reasons, rule infractions aren't carried out by the moderators then warning and suspensions should be handed out to them by higher authority.

Fifth, supposively I recently sent a harsh pm to an agent that rejected one of my team offers. I had no memory of this, so I appealed the 1 week suspension and politely asked for the "PM" I sent. All I ever got back was, "We'll we reviewed your appeal and your suspension holds up". So, I don't deserve an explanation to how or why this happened?

Sixth, I do agree that friction between posters is what keeps the forums alive. This still can be done without cussing. So what would the suspensions be for?

All I'm saying is, either change the rule book about forum behavior and make it a little more interesting or make the mods do their damn job and get more strict to the rules and NOT SHOW FAVORITISM
Edited by Packers27 on Aug 21, 2012 13:50:29
Edited by Packers27 on Aug 21, 2012 13:48:04
Edited by Packers27 on Aug 21, 2012 13:47:48
 
Novus
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Reported Packers27 for bad grammar and atrocious spelling.
 
Dub J
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Originally posted by Novus
I'm going to state my policy right now that I'm not going to get into a direct debate with jdbolick over his posting.



Good, because that crazy man could spend hours arguing with a stop sign.


 
Bane
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Ban me, please !

+/- 1 to the suggestion
 
Packers27
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Originally posted by Novus
Reported Packers27 for bad grammar and atrocious spelling.


Copy,Paste, Spell Check. Otherwise, stick to the topic
 
Novus
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Originally posted by Packers27
Originally posted by Novus

Reported Packers27 for bad grammar and atrocious spelling.


Copy,Paste, Spell Check. Otherwise, stick to the topic


We pretty much agree, man. Just giving you a hard time.
 
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LOL, I know u are
 
InRomoWeTrust
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1. I apologize for the rules page being different than the actual rules in the warning/suspension system. That's just something GLB is in process of updating. I know it causes inconveniences (on both the user and mod side).

2. I do admit there are inconsistencies that need to be fixed. Being completely honest, there is absolutely no mod 'training' that goes on. Most of us have experience moderating on other websites and platforms, however when new moderators are brought in they are basically just thrown to the wolves. It would obviously be of benefit to have what are basically real life case studies and how to handle the moderation. Unfortunately, none of us are paid for this. We're volunteers. While I don't mean to leverage this as an excuse, it does draw the line when bringing up things like mandatory training times and the like. I could absolutely conduct some training threads, but I am not paid to train the moderating staff.

3. Pallow has a boatload of responsibilities. As does Bort. Again, being completely honest, there are things on the forum side that get pushed off because Bort is devoting time to the sim side. In an ideal world, Pallow could get the changes done instantaneously. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen. The sim is more important at this stage in GLB's development. Corndog has given Pallow a few tools to make some changes, but a lot of stuff is only handled by the big guy himself.

4. For over a year now the moderating staff has sat on some proposed changes that would alter the forum to a more friendly and open environment. Exactly forming a lot of the stuff the userbase has been referencing in this thread. As an example, making the FAQ forum the complete home for GLB-related help, everything from build/tactics advice to general newbie questions. A forum free of any sort of trolling or general mischief. Then making the rest of the forum (outside of suggestions/bugs) operate a lot like what you see in general discussion with the karma system. All that stuff has been floated because EVERYONE can see that specific forum sections need to operate independently. Some of us on the moderating staff have close to or more than a decade of moderating experience now. We get, I promise.

5. "Inconsistency from the forum rules" is actually more often than not a plus. The forum rules laid out as they are pretty strict. You may consider me a poor mod for not applying the rules as they are written but more often than not I will judge context. If you post horse porn you're obviously staring at a suspension but if you went on a minor drunk tirade (think C and D-level forum violations) and are already passed out for the night, there's really no reason to hammer you down with a ban. That's when you see us clear out a lot of threads to the 'Graveyard' in the mod forum.
 
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Originally posted by Packers27
Let's just pretend that I didn't see one mod post on this thread about the site being PG-13ish for the minors and another mod's post says, "Kids under 15 is just about nil". This is what I'm talking about.


Not hard to pretend ... since it didn't happen.

tpat = Lead Mod

jdbolick = Run of the Mill GLB'er
 
InRomoWeTrust
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Originally posted by Dadd
Originally posted by Packers27

Let's just pretend that I didn't see one mod post on this thread about the site being PG-13ish for the minors and another mod's post says, "Kids under 15 is just about nil". This is what I'm talking about.


Not hard to pretend ... since it didn't happen.

tpat = Lead Mod

jdbolick = Run of the Mill GLB'er


Not to mention jdbolick's figure is pretty untrue. There have long been users in the TT/FFA areas who talk about just going to college or high school activites.

I would say that these users don't really represent the flex buyers, but they're members of our community. I don't just write off users because they don't buy significant amounts of flex.
 
Dub J
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
new moderators are brought in they are basically just thrown to the wolves.


Need new mods, I'm hungry.


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Pallow has a boatload of responsibilities.


BWWWAHAHAHA He rarely even logs on. How does a forum admin even function if he's never online? Not to mention, I've not witnessed anything even remotely with his fingerprints on it. Pretty sure tpat logged in the most work on the forum changes.

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He needs to give us more color options and not worry about the forums.

Originally posted by
Then making the rest of the forum (outside of suggestions/bugs) operate a lot like what you see in general discussion with the karma system.


I called it when I said adding karma would be a disaster. That's what you get for not listening to Dub J.

Originally posted by
You may consider me a poor mod


lol



 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
... As an example, making the FAQ forum the complete home for GLB-related help, everything from build/tactics advice to general newbie questions. A forum free of any sort of trolling or general mischief. Then making the rest of the forum (outside of suggestions/bugs) operate a lot like what you see in general discussion with the karma system.


+10000000 This would be great.
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
A forum free of any sort of trolling or general mischief.


This sounds like no fun. No fun = no customers. No customers = no money.
 
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