Warrior General Games

Quite the wall of text.

MSpaint? Quite the expert you are. Use a better image manipulation tool. There's an obvious drop of one pixel in that place. Also your key point was answered in multiple places, you just don't understand it: The replays do not have enough decimal places attributed to them to show a gradual decline, it is more a quantum decline which is emphasised by the running mean. This is obvious in all replays. I'm not overly interested in your background, my observation that you are talking shit is based on the content of your posts.

You're using different quotes based on different replays bolick. Yes my numbers jump around because some replays show a speed drop of over 5%, some others it is down at around 2.5%, and the lowest I'm willing to go to on one replay is 1%. Not zero, like you claim. I even provided a possible explanation for it, which you glossed over. If your agenda in this thread was to actually learn something instead of throwing a hissy fit about several agents showing you up, you might have benefited from it.

Originally posted by mandyross
Possibly the difference in speed loss between the different replays shown in this thread could be attributed to whether the game has reached "blowout" stage or not, but I am too lazy to check.

Stop your apoplexy, accept you failure, stop making it a personal issue when it isn't one, and grow up.


Originally posted by mandyross

Originally posted by jdbolick

stop spreading wrong information.

I'd urge you to take your own advice when it comes to this thread.

Originally posted by mandyross
MSpaint? Quite the expert you are. Use a better image manipulation tool. There's an obvious drop of one pixel in that place.
Except that there isn't, just as it was hilarious for you to claim that the line was only "about 100 pixels" long when it was actually almost five times that.

Originally posted by
Also your key point was answered in multiple places, you just don't understand it: The replays do not have enough decimal places attributed to them to show a gradual decline, it is more a quantum decline which is emphasised by the running mean.
See, you keep trying to obfuscate the fact that you're wrong by throwing out impressive sounding verbiage and making definitive assertions, but anyone who has knowledge sees through your bullshit. We're talking about extended periods of time here. For a decline not to show up over 50 yards, it clearly doesn't exist. More accurate measurements would be necessary show decline over very small distances, but over so many ticks, what's being used is more than sufficient. That's why the decline actually does show up in some replays, as I've already pointed out. But it's not in the one where you claimed to see it, and everything since then has been you making excuses to avoid admitting that you were wrong.

Originally posted by
You're using different quotes based on different replays bolick.
Dude, don't lie just because I busted you. Your original post on the subject said: "The speed script I'm running shows the fire catch returner clearly reduce his speed as the play progresses (taking into account the rounding produced by the spatial coordinates). Not by much, looking at the way the line wiggles I'd have a rough guess of 5-10%. Maybe I'm using an old script though." The "fire catch returner" is precisely the one we're talking about with that straight line, and the one we've always been talking about. First you said "5-10%," then "5%," then "maybe 2.5%," and then "a 1% loss." The answer has always been 0%, you just keep decreasing your number as a way to pretend that you're close to being correct when you've been wrong all along.

Originally posted by
Stop your apoplexy, accept you failure, stop making it a personal issue when it isn't one, and grow up.
Again you pretend that I'm the one making it personal when you've been repeatedly using personal insults against me in this thread. You said something wrong, I corrected you, and you took offense. Get over it and learn to admit when you're wrong. Stop trying to fight with me just because you wish you were relevant. It only ends up with you being embarrassed.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by mandyross

MSpaint? Quite the expert you are. Use a better image manipulation tool. There's an obvious drop of one pixel in that place.
Except that there isn't, just as it was hilarious for you to claim that the line was only "about 100 pixels" long when it was actually almost five times that.


Seriously, stop it.

You were using a screenshot weren't you? Not the original image. MSpaint - lol. Next you're going to tell me you were using an abacus to do your sums.

Do you understand what "rough guess" means. I revised that figure down to 2.5% as soon as I got the updated speed script. Which still showed you to be hopelessly wrong.

The rest of your post is just a typical contentless bolicking. I especially liked this line. Pot, kettle etc.

Originally posted by jdbolick
you keep trying to obfuscate the fact that you're wrong by throwing out impressive sounding verbiage and making definitive assertions

Please excuse me while I try to excavate myself from this irony avalanche.

Originally posted by mandyross
Do you understand what "rough guess" means. I revised that figure down to 2.5% as soon as I got the updated speed script. Which still showed you to be hopelessly wrong.
How did you dropping from "5-10%" to "5%" to "maybe 2.5%" show me to be hopelessly wrong when you dropped yet again after that? Did you already forget this?
Originally posted by mandyross
Granted it's a 1 pixel drop, but given the graph's size of around 100 pixels, that corresponds to a 1% loss. Which amazingly corresponds to my lower-bounds estimate! Who'd have thought it?

It doesn't drop at all, dude. It's a straight-line, as others have already acknowledged. Meanwhile we do have examples showing what a steady decline looks like when it actually happens. You're making yourself look horrendous by lying and making bullshit excuses to cover up for your mistake. Haven't you ever heard that the cover up is always worse than the crime? Instead of changing your story from "5-10%" to "5%" to "maybe 2.5%" to "a 1% loss," just grow a pair and admit that it was always 0%. Watching you continuously get closer while insulting me and insisting that you're not wrong is just sad.

Originally posted by mandyross

Do you understand what "rough guess" means?


Evidently not.



If you could just learn to analyse things, let them go, hold your hands up and admit you didn't know what you were talking about, these forums would be a lot more pleasant.

Originally posted by mandyross
If you could just learn to analyse things, let them go, hold your hands up and admit you didn't know what you were talking about, these forums would be a lot more pleasant.
It's amazing how you keep posting about yourself, just like when you accused me of being insulting when I hadn't at all and you'd repeatedly insulted me. You're also the one who has changed your story from "5-10%" to "5%" to "maybe 2.5%" to "a 1% loss" when the visual evidence clearly shows 0%. Learn to admit when you make a mistake instead of trying to become relevant by fighting with people like me who already are.

Didn't you accuse me of "using different quotes based on different replays"? Didn't I prove through your own words that we were always referring to the same replay? Did you ever admit to making a mistake about that or apologize for insinuating that I was being deceptive? No, you just keep making excuses because you can't admit to an error.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Didn't you accuse me of "using different quotes based on different replays"? Didn't I prove through your own words that we were always referring to the same replay? Did you ever admit to making a mistake about that or apologize for insinuating that I was being deceptive? No, you just keep making excuses because you can't admit to an error.

Originally posted by mandyross

Do you understand what "rough guess" means?


Originally posted by mandyross

Evidently not.


You're being deceptive.

In no replay is the speed loss zero. Your error - and a major error at that which misleads the entire thread, and makes it thoroughly unpleasant.

Maybe I should have just taken the LHF stance?

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Eat shit.

Originally posted by mandyross
You're being deceptive.
*sigh* You keep leveling accusations at me that only apply to you.

Originally posted by
In no replay is the speed loss zero. Your error - and a major error at that which misleads the entire thread, and makes it thoroughly unpleasant.
"5-10%" to "5%" to "maybe 2.5%" to "a 1% loss." The fact that you keep moving your answer down shows that you know the real answer is 0%, you're just incapable of admitting that you made a mistake and I was correct.

Original question:

Originally posted by ReMeDy

Does player performance in relation to energy degrade performance over the course of a play?


Answer:

Originally posted by Bort

Also, you CAN lose speed in the middle of a play by getting tired. Energy and morale are a constantly updating factor; they do not just get applied at the beginning of the play. Otherwise, skills like snarl wouldn't affect the other player, etc.

Helpful contribution made by bolick in this thread:

Originally posted by jdbolick
zero

Deal with it.

Originally posted by jdbolick
The fact that you keep moving your answer down shows that you know the real answer is 0%

Nice logic. You must have gone to debating school.

And you're lying also. http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4950599&page=6#45988865

Originally posted by jdbolick
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3276/mandyrossisfullofshit.jpg

More lies. Keep them coming

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4950599&page=5#45987605

I think this thread is pretty much done now. I doubt anyone else is reading it.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by Guppy, Inc

i've seen players come to a near dead halt late on long returns as their energy drops, so i would say the loss of energy goes as the play goes.
I have never seen this happen on the speed script. http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2066920&pbp_id=1402431 First play of the game for a dot with 21.37 stamina and his energy bar drops by about 40% but his speed never declines on the straight-away.

Link to pabst's script?

On the script I have (Deathblade's?) there's a definite drop--albeit a small one.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/similar222/GLB/QuizRodgers.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/similar222/GLB/Quiz-straightaway-first-half.jpg is faster than http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/similar222/GLB/Quiz-straightaway-second-half.jpg

Originally posted by TrevJo
Link to pabst's script?

On the script I have (Deathblade's?) there's a definite drop--albeit a small one.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/similar222/GLB/QuizRodgers.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/similar222/GLB/Quiz-straightaway-first-half.jpg is faster than http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t193/similar222/GLB/Quiz-straightaway-second-half.jpg
Yeah, that one does as does the OP. But we have other replays where no decline happens at all. Weird.