Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Antonine
2% of which population?

10-15% of the population in U.S.A. are atheist or agnostic (depending on which biased poll you want to rely on), if that is where you were thinking of. World-wide %s are around the same level, according to studies in the 90s.

Anyway, back to the thread...

He said atheist, not atheist and/or agnostic. So, his percentage is actually correct.

Main point of my question was which population he was talking about.

There is a world beyond the U.S.A., amazingly enough. Anyway, please return to dissing the OP.

Originally posted by jallowe
He said atheist, not atheist and/or agnostic. So, his percentage is actually correct.

Yes, Agnostics don't know don't care, aren't going to be offended one way or the other.

Only Atheists would be peeved.

Well I suppose militant muslims too but they would be peeved at games in general I think.

Originally posted by Moretti


I believe he is mistaken. Salary cap is already in the game, this is a mod of it.

Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by JCJayhawk

If this was the case it seems you would not have had to make this suggestion as all agents would be flocking to your teams.

Lost track of how many sent inspirational word =| 55x9 dots signed.

Face it, a trivial two percent of the population are atheist while the vast majority are faithful people and the overwhelming majority of them are christian. A cross is not going to send people scurrying.

And thats all it is, the logo, some player names and avatars, and the team note. We don't have bible study at team meetings or anything. Its not the Jehovahs Witnesses Dot Ball club lol.


Looking over your many teams I am led to believe that fundamentalists build bad dots and coordinate poorly. Which is great.

You've managed to corner the market on people who build mediocre dots and are happy to believe in a zombie who wants people to practice ritualistic cannibalism to celebrate his undeath and whose father has some serious anger issues which he occasionally works out by killing everyone.

Sadly for you you haven't found any of the good dots builders who believe that and are classy enough to follow Matthew 6 and keep it to themselves, instead you cater to the guys who are fundamentalists and make it their duty to bore the hell out of those of us who either believe differently or don't really care.

Most ironically of all, with this suggestion you are going against what your beloved zombie preached, namely that the Spaghetti Monster helps those most who help themselves. Rather than asking for handouts, perhaps just step up your dot building and coordinating?

Originally posted by yello1
I believe he is mistaken. Salary cap is already in the game, this is a mod of it.

you do realize that unless you are receiving overwhelming immediate support for a suggestion in glb the chances of it working out in your favor are pretty much zilch. what has occurred subsequently after page one is just fruitless arguments.

Originally posted by yello1
Well its basically change two things.

First you change the existing salary cap.

One is rather than a penalty, ala major league baseball, as it is now, make it a hard cap like the NFL and I think the NBA utilize.

Meaning your team can not offer a contract to a player if it would raise your total team salaries above whatever the Cap limit is.

Next, you adjust what a dots minimum salary would be, meaning you have to pay the dot more than you do now maybe.

Easy way to explain it and maybe implement it would be oh lets say this for example.

If your dot has an Effective Level 5 over his actual level, you have to pay him the salary that would give him a +5 morale bonus.

Optionally, for this calculation add to his Effective Level, +1.0 if he won an MVP or Championship last season, and plus .5 for each other gold trophy (tournament gold, 1st place in rushing yards etc) and .25 for each silver trophy (tourney 2nd place, Conference Championship if they didnt get gold, 2nd place in rushing yards) and .125 for each bronze trophy (3rd place in tourney, 3rd place in rushing yards). Add 1/2 the value for these awards from the season before that, and one quarter the value the season before that.

Once signed, instead of getting a +5 morale for the contract, he would get a zero morale bonus (you would have to give him a +10 contract to get a +5 out of him). Thats not in the OP, and its an option.

If his contract is multi season, then the next day 41, his adjusted Effective Level is checked again. If is has risen higher than the amount it was when he was signed (ie to 6 say in the example above) he receives a morale reduction for each whole Adjusted EL lower than the current contract morale bonus (ie his 0 morale bonus at the +5 contract would become a -1 morale penalty). The owner would have to renegotiate his stud players deal if he wanted his player happy.

Optionally, you could shuck the cap thing and just have the moral penalty concept. Would be less harsh but still effective.




well, i think you are saying something like tie it to SP count? The salary cost? If so, you would also somehow have to factor equipment into the mix ... i.e. many times a 1250 SP player is better than a 1350 SP player because the equipment. Unfortunately, this is hard to calculate imo (e.g. the sp value of having an aeq piece with +3 attribute and 5% boost)

Originally posted by merenoise
Looking over your many teams I am led to believe that fundamentalists build bad dots and coordinate poorly. Which is great.

You've managed to corner the market on people who build mediocre dots and are happy to believe in a zombie who wants people to practice ritualistic cannibalism to celebrate his undeath and whose father has some serious anger issues which he occasionally works out by killing everyone.

Sadly for you you haven't found any of the good dots builders who believe that and are classy enough to follow Matthew 6 and keep it to themselves, instead you cater to the guys who are fundamentalists and make it their duty to bore the hell out of those of us who either believe differently or don't really care.

Most ironically of all, with this suggestion you are going against what your beloved zombie preached, namely that the Spaghetti Monster helps those most who help themselves. Rather than asking for handouts, perhaps just step up your dot building and coordinating?

And you believe in the universe springing out of its own backside.

If you think that sounds more logical....then you are either stupid or in denial that your faith is just a faith no different than mine. Groundless unsupportable by any shred of evidence faith. Well tad worse, I have prophets to believe in. You got vacuum to suck.

And what I am asking for is what is good for the game. FFS I am the 1% too, I have like a hundred dots. If I wanted to do a solo team I could.

But any believer in the UnGod who brings all the arrogance of that illogical faith can not be expected to grok a concept of helping others. No its got to be all for me, doesnt it?

Originally posted by cheese sandwich
well, i think you are saying something like tie it to SP count? The salary cost? If so, you would also somehow have to factor equipment into the mix ... i.e. many times a 1250 SP player is better than a 1350 SP player because the equipment. Unfortunately, this is hard to calculate imo (e.g. the sp value of having an aeq piece with +3 attribute and 5% boost)

Yeah, that was just an example. Bort would be better situated to figure out what the best measure of a dot would be. But whatever it is should consider all that stuff you mentioned.

Originally posted by Moretti
you do realize that unless you are receiving overwhelming immediate support for a suggestion in glb the chances of it working out in your favor are pretty much zilch. what has occurred subsequently after page one is just fruitless arguments.

The success rate of suggestion threads in general are pretty slim. Even threads in the epic suggestions and voting sections collect dust in their dozens.

The forums are about discussing crap. Thats all I be doing. If some of it sticks well thats okay. But if it doesn't thats okay too. Im just enjoying the yakkity yak.

Originally posted by cheese sandwich
well, i think you are saying something like tie it to SP count? The salary cost? If so, you would also somehow have to factor equipment into the mix ... i.e. many times a 1250 SP player is better than a 1350 SP player because the equipment. Unfortunately, this is hard to calculate imo (e.g. the sp value of having an aeq piece with +3 attribute and 5% boost)

not only this, but STOPs can also have a really low EL and be very very good. and dont forget the value of VAs.

Originally posted by yello1
The success rate of suggestion threads in general are pretty slim. Even threads in the epic suggestions and voting sections collect dust in their dozens.

The forums are about discussing crap. Thats all I be doing. If some of it sticks well thats okay. But if it doesn't thats okay too. Im just enjoying the yakkity yak.

well, you provide about a whole church full of crap to discussion on a regular basis. if thats your goal, then take it to main and have discussions there instead of clogging up suggestions.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
not only this, but STOPs can also have a really low EL and be very very good. and dont forget the value of VAs.

good point as this would make the formula even more complex as people who boost right away to get to 25, etc. for VAs may have a lower sp count than those that always wait until the end of the season (but the player with more VAs and lower SP count may be a better dot).

Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by merenoise

Looking over your many teams I am led to believe that fundamentalists build bad dots and coordinate poorly. Which is great.

You've managed to corner the market on people who build mediocre dots and are happy to believe in a zombie who wants people to practice ritualistic cannibalism to celebrate his undeath and whose father has some serious anger issues which he occasionally works out by killing everyone.

Sadly for you you haven't found any of the good dots builders who believe that and are classy enough to follow Matthew 6 and keep it to themselves, instead you cater to the guys who are fundamentalists and make it their duty to bore the hell out of those of us who either believe differently or don't really care.

Most ironically of all, with this suggestion you are going against what your beloved zombie preached, namely that the Spaghetti Monster helps those most who help themselves. Rather than asking for handouts, perhaps just step up your dot building and coordinating?

And you believe in the universe springing out of its own backside.

If you think that sounds more logical....then you are either stupid or in denial that your faith is just a faith no different than mine. Groundless unsupportable by any shred of evidence faith. Well tad worse, I have prophets to believe in. You got vacuum to suck.

And what I am asking for is what is good for the game. FFS I am the 1% too, I have like a hundred dots. If I wanted to do a solo team I could.

But any believer in the UnGod who brings all the arrogance of that illogical faith can not be expected to grok a concept of helping others. No its got to be all for me, doesnt it?



You have no idea what I believe because I don't feel obligated to share it with you since belief is personal.

You on the other hand feel obligated to make me believe as you do by constantly infecting things you say with references to your zombie overlord. You even manage to force me to consider it each time one of the teams I am associated kicks the snot out of one of your poorly managed teams by naming them after your religious beliefs.

Maybe check out that book you are so into and read what your zombie preached about proselytizing:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6&version=NIV

Do you grok that?

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
well, you provide about a whole church full of crap to discussion on a regular basis. if thats your goal, then take it to main and have discussions there instead of clogging up suggestions.

Discussions about suggestions, duh.

The church stuff only comes up if someone else brings it up. I am not here to preach to you all. But when a LOL Atheist starts spouting off how much more smarters he is than faith because science done did disprove God, well I have to poke fun at his illogical azzed groundless statements and baseless arrogance. They have a church of their own, but hate churches, and do not see how that makes them fools of the most amusing variety.

But like I said, only if they start it. Of course being the arrogant dweebs they tend to be, they often do. Not so much on GLB though, thank goodness. Well maybe in FFA but I don't wander there much.