Warrior General Games

Originally posted by RayRay99
If he is such a winner, why did he get benched like 3 times in Tennessee and fail to beat out Kerry Collins? Why is it he didn't get a starting gig on another team when he was cut by the "shitty head coach" that happens to be one of the most respected in football? Surely if he is such a winner and All-everything player he would have got a sniff from teams like Washington, Miami, or Cincinnati? It is because he is a head case. What other quality QBs do you know of who go missing and have team officials have the police involved to find him or get pissy and throw their gear in the stands or are constantly dogged by rumblings of their lack of work ethic and immaturity? Combined with the fact he is a moron who scored a 6 on the Wonderlic, and you have an individual who is blessed with a lot of athletic ability, and is wasting it trying to be a QB when he would likely be more effective as a WR.

Once again an aggie puts forth fiction like fact. He didn't get cut by one of the most respected head coaches, he got cut by the same owner who sent that head coach to the unemployment line. Adams wanted a clean break with the old regime and did that by getting rid of the coach and the player who caused poor media coverage of the franchise.

As for getting sniffs from other teams, you don't know what interest he received. You assume because he took a place backing up VY that he didn't have offers from other organizations. VY himself said he had other interest but chose Philly because he felt it would be the best place for him to improve as a QB. Maybe, just maybe he wanted to go to a good franchise and learn instead of go to another shitty franchise and be the scapegoat for a poor organization.

6 on the Wolderlic? This is a perfect example of the aggie mindset. Everyone else knows that the 6 was due to an error scoring the test, but you cling to the idea that he actually made a 6. You really do live in your own little cult inspired world.

Originally posted by RayRay99
Taking out the guys who barely played (making those stats irrelevant), I see very little similarity between the stats above and VY's.

Young: 15 GMs, 51.5%, 12, 13

And now look at his outstanding career in which he has won ROY and 2 Pro Bowl selections.

Through 5 years of playing he is averaging.....wait for it.....

150 passing yards a game

Combined with his EXCELLENT 42/42 TD/Int ratio and 57% completion percentage and career QB rating of 75.7 I am sure he could retire now and be a surefire HOFer.

Again



I'd be happy for you to compare his stats versus other 5th year QBs in the league. I'd also love for you to compare his most reason season to the seasons of the other top QBs in the league. He's improved greatly each season he's played, and last season was performing as a top 5 QB in the league prior to getting injured.

Originally posted by RayRay99
To be fair, he took them from 0-6 to 5-6 before finishing 8-8.

During that span, the defense went from giving up 33 ppg to 20.4 ppg

Chris Johnson went from averaging 102 ypg to 141 ypg

Passing yards only went from 179 ypc to 190 ypc. (If you throw out the Patriots debacle where VY had 0 yds and Collins had -7, Collins was actually averaging 214 to VY's 190).

Looks to me an improved defense and running game played a much more pivotal role than VY stepping in.

So the only change to the team was a change in QB, but it had nothing to do with any of those improvements. The defense just magically got much better, CJ just randomly learned how to run, and the team magically started scoring more. The change in performance between a VY lead offense and a Collins lead offense has been discussed ad nauseam, so I won't go there, but that would prove you to be an idiot as well.

Originally posted by RayRay99
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024


Btw, taking an 0-6 team to a 6-6 team shows the huge impact he made on that team. The chosen starter by the coach couldn't manage a win on the same team that VY went 8-2 on.

To be fair, he took them from 0-6 to 5-6 before finishing 8-8.

During that span, the defense went from giving up 33 ppg to 20.4 ppg

Chris Johnson went from averaging 102 ypg to 141 ypg

Passing yards only went from 179 ypc to 190 ypc. (If you throw out the Patriots debacle where VY had 0 yds and Collins had -7, Collins was actually averaging 214 to VY's 190).

Looks to me an improved defense and running game played a much more pivotal role than VY stepping in.


RAY RAY is doing his research

All I know is the guy wins. I could care less if my QB leads the league in passing. His teammates play up several notches when he plays. Reminds me of McMahon in terms of lots of W's with less than sterling stats. At the end of the day, the QB's job is to make his team better and VY clearly does that. I'm not a VY or UT fan, but his record of elevating his teammates several notches above their standard is beyond question

Originally posted by King of Bling
All I know is the guy wins. I could care less if my QB leads the league in passing. His teammates play up several notches when he plays. Reminds me of McMahon in terms of lots of W's with less than sterling stats. At the end of the day, the QB's job is to make his team better and VY clearly does that. I'm not a VY or UT fan, but his record of elevating his teammates several notches above their standard is beyond question

When he isn't running off to the funny farm...

Seriously, the guy has some mental issues.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
He didn't get cut by one of the most respected head coaches, he got cut by the same owner who sent that head coach to the unemployment line.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/22/bud-adams-jeff-fisher-vince-young-have-to-get-along/

Semantics. He got benched multiple times by the respected coach and then was cut by the owner.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
As for getting sniffs from other teams, you don't know what interest he received. You assume because he took a place backing up VY that he didn't have offers from other organizations. VY himself said he had other interest but chose Philly because he felt it would be the best place for him to improve as a QB. Maybe, just maybe he wanted to go to a good franchise and learn instead of go to another shitty franchise and be the scapegoat for a poor organization.

6 on the Wolderlic? This is a perfect example of the aggie mindset. Everyone else knows that the 6 was due to an error scoring the test, but you cling to the idea that he actually made a 6. You really do live in your own little cult inspired world.

So you are saying that VY and his ego had the chance at a starting gig somewhere, but instead decided to be a backup? I myself am saying I have interest from Jessica Alba and Katy Perry to have a threesome, so therefore you should not doubt my veracity.

It isn't know that it was caused by an error scoring the test, it could have been mistimed or another reason. The fact that he took it again and still only scored marginally better shows what a retard he is.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/wonderlic-scores-of-2010-nfl-starting-quarterbacks-and-339905.html

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I'd be happy for you to compare his stats versus other 5th year QBs in the league

Cutler - 61.6%, 235 ypg, 104/79, 84.3 rating
T. Jackson - 58.7%, 199 ypg 24/22, 76.6 rating
VY - 57.9%, 150 ypg, 42/42, 75.7 rating
Leinart - 57.1%, 134 ypg, 14/20, 70.8 rating
B. Gradkowski - 53.2%, 194 ypg, 20/23, 65.9 rating

So what you are saying is that he is middle of the pack in a mediocre QB year?

Originally posted by RayRay99
So you are saying that VY and his ego had the chance at a starting gig somewhere, but instead decided to be a backup? I myself am saying I have interest from Jessica Alba and Katy Perry to have a threesome, so therefore you should not doubt my veracity.


Your argument: I'm going to make shit up when I have no facts.
My argument: Here is what one of the few people who actually knows that facts said.

Originally posted by RayRay99

It isn't know that it was caused by an error scoring the test, it could have been mistimed or another reason. The fact that he took it again and still only scored marginally better shows what a retard he is.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/wonderlic-scores-of-2010-nfl-starting-quarterbacks-and-339905.html

I certainly want Alex Smith and Tim Tebow over McNabb and VY.

But you failed to respond to the actual point of my post: you keep making shit up (VY's score of 6) and acting like it's truth. But hey, that's the aggie way.

My point is because he said it is so doesn't make it so. The score of 6 isn't made up, google vince young wonderlic and you get tons of media outlets who reported it. He scored a 6, whether it was invalid because of scoring error, timing error, or that the score was so unbelievably low they thought there was an error doesn't change the fact that he took it again and still scored lower than my 2 year old would.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Your argument: I'm going to make shit up when I have no facts.


Jesus, how many more facts do I have to post

Originally posted by coachviking

RAY RAY is doing his research

Originally posted by RayRay99
My point is because he said it is so doesn't make it so. The score of 6 isn't made up, google vince young wonderlic and you get tons of media outlets who reported it. He scored a 6, whether it was invalid because of scoring error, timing error, or that the score was so unbelievably low they thought there was an error doesn't change the fact that he took it again and still scored lower than my 2 year old would.

So what you're saying is you put credence in a test that was proven to be scored wrong. Media outlets reported it as a 6 prior to the news being released that there was a problem with the scoring system. You're just too much of a bitter aggie to admit otherwise.

Originally posted by RayRay99
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024

Your argument: I'm going to make shit up when I have no facts.


Jesus, how many more facts do I have to post

Originally posted by coachviking


RAY RAY is doing his research






Jesus, you really are an aggie. My post was a direct response to you making stuff up about VY's choice of teams and CV's post was a direct response to a completely different post. They have no relevance to each other. The fact remains that you made claims that had no basis in reality.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
So what you're saying is you put credence in a test that was proven to be scored wrong.

If you read my post, you would see I was referring to the ridiculously low score he made on the retake. You know, the one you are not debating that puts him at the bottom of the barrel and shows that, while he may not be monumentally stupid, he is very, very, very stupid nonetheless.

Originally posted by RayRay99
If you read my post, you would see I was referring to the ridiculously low score he made on the retake. You know, the one you are not debating that puts him at the bottom of the barrel and shows that, while he may not be monumentally stupid, he is very, very, very stupid nonetheless.

If the quality of play an NFL QB produces is dependent on their wonderlic score, Alex Smith and Greg McEleroy would be awesome and McNabb would be shit. Your argument about his wonderlic has very little to do with his ability to play. As for his score, I'm sure he's not the brightest bulb, but saying he's a retard because of the score just shows your closed mindedness. VY was going top 3 regardless of his score on the wonderlic, so he probably had very little reason to give any effort. Regarldess of his score, he was still playing like a top 5 QB before getting injured last season and has certain produced more than any aggie QB could dream of. Btw, Jerrod Johnson got cut when VY showed up to Philly.

Cliff Notes version for those just joining us:

Horn - Two pro bowls. Rookie of the year. Only QB to take an 0-6 team to 6-6

Reality - "ROY" season - 51.5% completion percentage, 146 ypg, 12 TD 13 Int
Couldn't beat Kerry Collins as starter
Forced to take a job as a backup
Goes missing and forces team to call police
Argues with head coach and throws equipment into the stands
Dances shirtless with nary a female in sight
Scored a 6, er, 16 on the Wonderlic, proving he is dumber than the average security guard.
http://www.career-and-test.com/Wonderlic-test-scores.html
Compared to other QBs the year he was drafted, he is middle of the mediocre pack

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Regarldess of his score, he was still playing like a top 5 QB before getting injured

And yet nobody wanted him to be their starter, yet the likes of John Beck, Andy Dalton, and Chad Henne do

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
and has certain produced more than any aggie QB could dream of.

In other irrelevant news, Stephen McGee is undefeated as a starter and has an 81.4 career passer rating. He told me he could have been a starter in another organization, but he felt it would be the best place for him to improve as a QB. He wants to be in a good franchise and learn instead of go to another shitty franchise and be the scapegoat for a poor organization.

Originally posted by RayRay99
Cliff Notes version for those just joining us:

Horn - Two pro bowls. Rookie of the year. Only QB to take an 0-6 team to 6-6

Reality - "ROY" season - 51.5% completion percentage, 146 ypg, 12 TD 13 Int
Couldn't beat Kerry Collins as starter
Forced to take a job as a backup
Goes missing and forces team to call police
Argues with head coach and throws equipment into the stands
Dances shirtless with nary a female in sight
Scored a 6, er, 16 on the Wonderlic, proving he is dumber than the average security guard.
http://www.career-and-test.com/Wonderlic-test-scores.html
Compared to other QBs the year he was drafted, he is middle of the mediocre pack


Aggie-isolated figures that prove nothing

Reality-OROY
2 Pro Bowls
2010 PR of 98.6 (good for 5th behind Brady, Rivers, Rodgers, and Vick had he not been injured)
2010 highest completion rate on passes over 20 yards
Only QB to take a team from 0-6 to 6-6
Had team's support throughout entire length of problems with HC, including the top two offensive players other than himself publicly giving their support for VY.

Aggie NFL QB accolades:
*chirp*