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Originally posted by Plankton
BTW, of the demoted teams in Alpha, only Devonport was 1 and done, so you might as well just say Devonport next time. It's less confusing.

Originally posted by CableJelly
....(or once a WL team who should have demoted last season but didn't due to gutting).....:

This also describes a one-and-done that is not Dev Dev.

Ah. you caught me. i just skimmed your post. I know that is hypocritical, since I am a very wordy poster, but I'm only human.

Originally posted by lukin83
Originally posted by TruBucfan22

we ain't scurred!

You should be.

I AIN"T SCURRED!

Originally posted by seahawk10
One and done still means you did the work to get there. Well done to Devonport, you beat a very good Cypriot team and you played very well in the WL. If we can match your win total or surpass it I will be happy!

The point is that the system is broken. Even for the best teams, the WL is a grind. EVERY game is important, and takes gameplanning, even with the best builds. It was our best two seasons in GLB, but also the most work and the most stress (and you all know that this game can be stressful).

But the difference between the WL and Pro leagues is huge. Many teams, just based on the dots they have, can cruise until the playoffs. The regular season is pretty much useless. That is why teams play in so many tournaments, etc. It adds some excitement to the game.

Having some level between Pro and the WL, where top Pro teams can play each and prepare for the WL, would help solve some of this problem.

I was thinking an elimination of WL, restructure the Pro into 6 instead of 8 (or even leave it @ 8), and have a post-playoff playoff for the Pro champs to decide a World champ on a season by season basis. Everyone keeps friendly rivalries, there's 6 leagues to fill instead of 8 which ensures (at the moment) that Pro is competitive week in and week out, and a "True Champion of GLB" every season.

This rewards those who plan and play to win, those who see a little bit of luck, and those who manage teams properly while cutting out the BS WL promo/demo structure.

This way you can go 16-0, never see a trophy, and still be satisfied with the game or go 10-6, win it all, but not be thrown to the wolves next season just because you pulled off an upset or two the prior season.... and still be satisfied with the game

Win-Win imo

i just want competitive games. some people have fun building, some have fun in the forums ... my fun is coordinating.

Originally posted by evileyez
i just want competitive games. some people have fun building, some have fun in the forums ... my fun is coordinating.

And the point from this for me is that getting to WL is not about saying we are WL, but actually competing against the best game after game. Is it a grind? ABSOLUTELY!!!! But our goal of getting to WL is not about doing it to say we did it. It is to get back to a meaningful league, where the outcomes are not predetermined for 90% of the games.

Let's face it. The only teams that care about the regular season in Pro are the ones that just promoted (and some of them don't care). In Pro, it is the last 3 games that matter. In WL, all 16 matter for every team but the very best.

But, we have what we have. 8 Pro leagues, no hemispheres. Alpha will have some good competition, Zeta will be a 3, maybe 4 team conference. Alpha will beat Zeta in week 1, but the old time Zeta folks will keep their lolalpha mantra.

In other words, GLB will be GLB

Originally posted by CableJelly
This also describes a one-and-done that is not Dev Dev.

Buda and EEA tbh

Originally posted by Plankton
But, we have what we have. 8 Pro leagues, no hemispheres. Alpha will have some good competition, Zeta will be a 3, maybe 4 team conference. Alpha will beat Zeta in week 1, but the old time Zeta folks will keep their lolalpha mantra.

In other words, GLB will be GLB

lol alpha

Originally posted by Plankton
but the old time Zeta folks will keep their lolalpha mantra.

The old time Zeta folks are all in Alpha.

Originally posted by Plankton
But, we have what we have. 8 Pro leagues, no hemispheres. Alpha will have some good competition, Zeta will be a 3, maybe 4 team conference. Alpha will beat Zeta in week 1, but the old time Zeta folks will keep their lolalpha mantra.

In other words, GLB will be GLB

Outstanding!

Originally posted by bug03
lol alpha

lolalpha

Originally posted by nthomas
The point is that the system is broken. Even for the best teams, the WL is a grind. EVERY game is important, and takes gameplanning, even with the best builds. It was our best two seasons in GLB, but also the most work and the most stress (and you all know that this game can be stressful).

But the difference between the WL and Pro leagues is huge. Many teams, just based on the dots they have, can cruise until the playoffs. The regular season is pretty much useless. That is why teams play in so many tournaments, etc. It adds some excitement to the game.

Having some level between Pro and the WL, where top Pro teams can play each and prepare for the WL, would help solve some of this problem.

I support the hemisphere idea....

Originally posted by seahawk10
One and done still means you did the work to get there. Well done to Devonport, you beat a very good Cypriot team and you played very well in the WL. If we can match your win total or surpass it I will be happy!

just have fun with it either way... not that i'd have to tell you to have fun

Originally posted by CableJelly
I was thinking an elimination of WL, restructure the Pro into 6 instead of 8 (or even leave it @ 8), and have a post-playoff playoff for the Pro champs to decide a World champ on a season by season basis. Everyone keeps friendly rivalries, there's 6 leagues to fill instead of 8 which ensures (at the moment) that Pro is competitive week in and week out, and a "True Champion of GLB" every season.

This rewards those who plan and play to win, those who see a little bit of luck, and those who manage teams properly while cutting out the BS WL promo/demo structure.

This way you can go 16-0, never see a trophy, and still be satisfied with the game or go 10-6, win it all, but not be thrown to the wolves next season just because you pulled off an upset or two the prior season.... and still be satisfied with the game

Win-Win imo

You must forget seasons 1-10... remember how boring it was for a team like WSI... they had 2-3 meaningful games during the regular season, a good CC game and then a good Championship game. So bored with it that they finally pulled off a move to USAPL. Would imagine a team like Indy would get frustrated after a couple of seasons like their last and want to go back to USAPL.

If you move all the WL back into their regions then we have 8 regions that are still mostly filled with garbage (no disrespect to the young teams but yall really have no business being here... and wouldnt understand if you did want to be here at a huge disadvantage)... slowly but surely teams would gravitate back to USAPL (effectively undoing all the good the WL has done to make the Pro regions relatively equal) and USAPL would become the WL once again. Been there dont ever want to go through that again.

That said, the solution is what all of us have been screaming for for quite some time now... HEMISPHERE LEAGUE. The reason this is need is because of the extended plateau. Before the extended plateau, only a handful of teams (your Blazes, Hali's, etc) could manage the grind of replacing their rosters every season... by extending the plateau it allowed for a lot more teams to compete at the WL level (remember when when the WL was dominated by a couple... now look at how close the WL games are, regular and post-season). The problem is the extended plateau allowed for all of this great competitive potential WL quality teams that wont all fit in WL (this is a good thing... working as intended) but not quite enough to make the 8 Pro regions competitive. The ONLY solution is to create the hemisphere leagues. Yes, average quality of team in the 8 Pro regions decreases but the overall competitiveness of the 8 pro regions increases dramatically (the bottom half of Nat Pro is mixed with the top of elite Pro... basically the struggling end-game Nat Pro teams mixed with the great young teams... makes for a much more competitive Nat Pro level).

Lastly, it would be a mistake to eliminate/condense the 8 pro regions... even with a hemisphere league it will still be perceived as "making it" by getting to the Nat Pro level and getting to represent a Pro region. Condensing would never work... just imagine how pissed we would all be if the condensed to 6 pro leagues and OPL drew the short straw...