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the spd you can add wouldn't be enough to make a noticeable difference. So out of those options the STR one is definitely the better one. 118 agi is enough for TM to fire on almost all OTs currently so that's still safe.

Third option:

Str 85
Spd 112
Agi 118

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1604603 this doesnt do much

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1841601 this guy kills people


go figure

Originally posted by JazzMaster
Third option:

Str 85
Spd 112
Agi 118

I could see arguments for both this version or the 96 spd/101 str one. I think the str one has more potential to be reliable in either de slot and less bust potential while the spd layout gives you a slight pass rush edge. In CPL I think the SPD build can get you by. I'd probably go with that.

Originally posted by foshizzel17
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1604603 this doesnt do much

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1841601 this guy kills people


go figure

str build isn't open my good man.

Originally posted by Menamino
Originally posted by JazzMaster

Third option:

Str 85
Spd 112
Agi 118

I could see arguments for both this version or the 96 spd/101 str one. I think the str one has more potential to be reliable in either de slot and less bust potential while the spd layout gives you a slight pass rush edge. In CPL I think the SPD build can get you by. I'd probably go with that.

Originally posted by foshizzel17

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1604603 this doesnt do much

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1841601 this guy kills people


go figure

str build isn't open my good man.


its open for a while now.

Originally posted by JazzMaster

What should I do? I could take 12 out of agility and put 16 into strength.
Str 101
Spd 96
Agi 118



http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1450559&playoffs=0

He has

str 104
spd 98
Agi 117

Did good for pro.

Originally posted by foshizzel17
its open for a while now.

it wasn't open when I posted that, but it's a solid build. I have a DE who I'll be doing similar things with, with the added benefit of multitraining for its entire career so a bit higher on str/agi and some secondaries. Dots like that can really fit into any scheme.

imo i think u need higher vision then strength ....just sayin my DE does and hes been #1 in saks 2 seasons in a row S21 he was MVP S22 was MVP runner up

my 80 strength DE got pancaked 1.5/game in 2 world league seasons. It won't help you but it won't hurt you too much. I would still advocate a str/agi or agi/str build with speed being the 3rd most important (somewhere around 90-100). I have seen some extremely successful 120/100/100 or 100/100/120 dots.

Originally posted by skeels
my 80 strength DE got pancaked 1.5/game in 2 world league seasons. It won't help you but it won't hurt you too much. I would still advocate a str/agi or agi/str build with speed being the 3rd most important (somewhere around 90-100). I have seen some extremely successful 120/100/100 or 100/100/120 dots.

Problem is, thats the old standard, new dots coming up in the multi-train world will need much higher, if you don't total 330 with str/agility/speed and have a mid 60 or better vision , you are probably not gonna have much success is WL. I think givin the way things are heading 90 strength is a rather safe minimum for a dot by lvl 72 in the current system.

Originally posted by Shrazkil
Originally posted by skeels

my 80 strength DE got pancaked 1.5/game in 2 world league seasons. It won't help you but it won't hurt you too much. I would still advocate a str/agi or agi/str build with speed being the 3rd most important (somewhere around 90-100). I have seen some extremely successful 120/100/100 or 100/100/120 dots.

Problem is, thats the old standard, new dots coming up in the multi-train world will need much higher, if you don't total 330 with str/agility/speed and have a mid 60 or better vision , you are probably not gonna have much success is WL. I think givin the way things are heading 90 strength is a rather safe minimum for a dot by lvl 72 in the current system.

actually 320 between STR/SPD/AGI is still the target. The new trend is gonna be having 60+ stamina

Originally posted by foshizzel17
actually 320 between STR/SPD/AGI is still the target. The new trend is gonna be having 60+ stamina

My target is between 330 - 335.

Originally posted by foshizzel17
actually 320 between STR/SPD/AGI is still the target. The new trend is gonna be having 60+ stamina

Target for what? At 320 i would not expect a whole lot of WL success, pro's perhaps. Its still quite easy for some builds to have 330 or better spd/str/agi and still have 60+ stamina. DT's who go extreme strength are alittle tougher to get high stamina unless its been included as a multi-unlock, but generally strength based builds use less stamina anyway.

Originally posted by Shrazkil
Problem is, thats the old standard, new dots coming up in the multi-train world will need much higher, if you don't total 330 with str/agility/speed and have a mid 60 or better vision , you are probably not gonna have much success is WL. I think givin the way things are heading 90 strength is a rather safe minimum for a dot by lvl 72 in the current system.

why are you pretending to know how much vision is needed?

am I missing something

Originally posted by Darkstrand
why are you pretending to know how much vision is needed?

am I missing something

Yes, you are missing something... Mainly the Jump off point when you clock speed for DE's is heavily affected by vision. Vision around 68ish tends to provide the best "jump off the snap" for the investment.