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Passing was over-powered. And I'm not going by last season, I'm going by the season 17 Goats. You can thank Bort and LE for the over-powered passing ...lol. LE basically showed everyone how to pass in the season 15 playoffs. Thanks to Dony and me pissing him off OK.. OK.. I shouldn't take any credit for LE's passing success, LE deserves it for spending time on the game and scrimmaging ALOT. however... I started paying alot more attention to offense after Season 15..why? ... because offense was the more powerful part of the sim. When the Goats became my primary team in Season 16, I told the owner that I would manage the Air Attack tourney AI so I could get better at checkdowns and passing. By the end of Season 17, we all agreed (DuPraes, Gruppo, and me) that passing.. with the right BUILDS, SCOUTING, and CHECKDOWNS was the way to go. So we modified Air Attack AI to be our playoff AI.

Now, I think passing is a little under powered... and I stress a little..and I say again.. a little. I don't want to go back to the only option on 3rd and long is a sweep or a QB run. 3rd and Long happens regardless of sound AI... false start.. false start..etc..etc.. I do have ideas how to make the sim more balanced.by changing our build plans... but I guess we'll know when the playoffs start if they work.

It's still early... Bort can still make mid-season changes and we don't know how much the passing boost drops off over the next 9 levels.... and how our builds will react to Level 13 dots passing and defending. ..... Seems like we'll always be in Beta..lol.. which means we'll see more changes in the future.. the only option is too adapt.

I'm not trying to insult anyone ...just blowing off some steam from a DC perspective

ok this is my 5cents worth...

I am not against pass heavy teams in peewee, but I do feel that you guys have had too much of a good thing for long enough!

I am of the opinion of a DC mentality

...my DCing has suffered from the constant sim changes especially in the past few seasons coz of archetypes, etc, and any DC would be able to sympathise with that coz it has not been an easy task to DC over the past few seasons with the constant changes to zone/man coverage, and the PF, etc and trying to comprehend it all ...but you haven't heard much complaints about it, coz we been too busy trying to get it right and then having to readjust again and again in an attempt to avoid embarrassing results ...it has been tough for us and has slighted our reputations even with all of the work that we have done to try and account for it ...and now OCs and owners of pass heavy teams are complaining coz they dun have it their way for another season of pass dominant 'cruise control' and driving DCs mad trying to find a solution to it ...in the past 2 seasons I have somewhat neglected the outside coverage coz it has just been too much for me to comprehend and cater for due to RL commitments, and also not nearly worth the trouble of trying find a solution coz of the constant changes to the sim at the time ...DCs have been on the back foot for the past 2seasons! ...this is why I'm rubbing salt into the wounds! ...This is why I now LOL @ how it is you guys that are crying foul!

...now that the man/zone coverage is beginning to settle and the PF nerfed, DCs can begin trying to put the pieces back together and develop some rationale to offense and construct a defense that we know that we can depend on ...and the balance has been restored

The most frustrating part for me is when you go to make your roster changes for the next season you HAVE to bass it on that seasons sim. So you have teams that prepared for a passing friendly sim that are now screwed since they decided to nerf the passing game and pee wee isnt like higher caps where you can make changed. You try and cut players and then recreate players and see how much you fall behind just in training and such. Pee Wee needs something consistent so it doesnt go into the grave yard because there is nothing more frustrating for an owner or coordinators when stuff this drastic happens with no word of it happening until its too late to make adjustments to your roster.

No balance in you being able to run a defense that does good on every play, which is the current case...and has pretty much been the case for some time... just this season is much much worse than before.

Originally posted by Stoner DTD
No balance in you being able to run a defense that does good on every play, which is the current case...and has pretty much been the case for some time... just this season is much much worse than before.

well when you have 1 play for each formation like you do I can see where running a D would be so so difficult.

Just for the hell of it I ran some stats from Season 18 vs Season 19 to compare.

Randomly I chose Fighting Gamecocks for Season 18, Season 19 I used Loretto Panthers. Games 1-5 posted

QBRat …Comp… Att… Pct …Yds… Y/A …TD… Int… Sack… Rush… Yds

FG... 122.64…52…79……65.8%…935…11.8…12……1……7……26……37

Lrtto 77.64 …107…199……53.8%…994…5.0…6……0……14……16……-69.5

If you stack 20 catching in your receiver with gazillion speed and expect him to catch 60% passes your wrong. Same thing goes for 1 WR in triple coverage and coming down with the ball.

Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
well when you have 1 play for each formation like you do I can see where running a D would be so so difficult.

Not like the Gold Champ last season used one defense per formation... that the 2 strongest teams in Gold right now... also run 1 defense per formation...

Granted... they have a FEW situational plays... but that is indeed the case.

lol stoner...your DAI or whoever you stole that from is sad.

inb4report?

Yes, because you've ever seen MY dai? Lol...

Originally posted by Stoner DTD
Yes, because you've ever seen MY dai? Lol...

lol I have access on the team you just ninja quit on

Originally posted by DirtyMike
Just for the hell of it I ran some stats from Season 18 vs Season 19 to compare.

Randomly I chose Fighting Gamecocks for Season 18, Season 19 I used Loretto Panthers. Games 1-5 posted

QBRat …Comp… Att… Pct …Yds… Y/A …TD… Int… Sack… Rush… Yds

FG... 122.64…52…79……65.8%…935…11.8…12……1……7……26……37

Lrtto 77.64 …107…199……53.8%…994…5.0…6……0……14……16……-69.5

If you stack 20 catching in your receiver with gazillion speed and expect him to catch 60% passes your wrong. Same thing goes for 1 WR in triple coverage and coming down with the ball.


Why would you pick two entirely different teams? That makes no sense. I did the dame with one team early FT. They had more passes to the Wrs in season 18 by a lot. Better %'s as well. Catching, speed, this is pee wee yadda yadda yadda, means nothing t me when Wrs drop passes when open or when they are one on one. How the heck can a HB, FB with 15-20 in catching be able to catch damn near 90% of the passes when a WR with 60 catching can drop a wide open pass being lofted to him? Sell that avon to some other sucker because passing took a hit. Results don't lie and I just can't wait to see how they do when the passing bonus is gone. Should make for some exciting dotball!

Originally posted by LordEvil
Originally posted by DirtyMike

Just for the hell of it I ran some stats from Season 18 vs Season 19 to compare.

Randomly I chose Fighting Gamecocks for Season 18, Season 19 I used Loretto Panthers. Games 1-5 posted

QBRat …Comp… Att… Pct …Yds… Y/A …TD… Int… Sack… Rush… Yds

FG... 122.64…52…79……65.8%…935…11.8…12……1……7……26……37

Lrtto 77.64 …107…199……53.8%…994…5.0…6……0……14……16……-69.5

If you stack 20 catching in your receiver with gazillion speed and expect him to catch 60% passes your wrong. Same thing goes for 1 WR in triple coverage and coming down with the ball.


Why would you pick two entirely different teams? That makes no sense. I did the dame with one team early FT. They had more passes to the Wrs in season 18 by a lot. Better %'s as well. Catching, speed, this is pee wee yadda yadda yadda, means nothing t me when Wrs drop passes when open or when they are one on one. How the heck can a HB, FB with 15-20 in catching be able to catch damn near 90% of the passes when a WR with 60 catching can drop a wide open pass being lofted to him? Sell that avon to some other sucker because passing took a hit. Results don't lie and I just can't wait to see how they do when the passing bonus is gone. Should make for some exciting dotball!

winner

Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
lol I have access on the team you just ninja quit on

This is true.

seriously.... does anyone not take warning serious anymore.