Warrior General Games

Originally posted by regoob2
Just curious but what WL team is this?

this team is more of a world league farm team than theirs...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=917330

and we're not even trying to farm. ldo.

Originally posted by Challenge Everything
My guys are plenty fast. Do you not look at the competition a player is playing against before you evaluate them? The team I am on is not built to win but made to build as it is a World League farm team. Thanks for playing.

Stop trying to use reputation to solve your discrepancies when you don't have one.

Originally posted by Djinnt
Stop trying to use reputation to solve your discrepancies when you don't have one.


there's someone holding a penis in your post. gross.

Originally posted by Challenge Everything
Safeties are "do all, end all" players. The DL is to plug the holes to stop the run. The LB's are to tackle the RB's and short passes, unless blocked. The CB's are to stop the passes and the Safeties are just that... the safety net of the defense which means to cover up where the front lines missed. The safeties need to see the field much more than other players and need to react to the play. Pass coverage and lining up 1-on-1 with a WR is never in the scope of a safeties duties, at least primary receiver or even a #2. The way many claim to make a FS is to be a CB #1 on a team which is hardly the way a FS should be built.

But hey, keep plugging points into speed because we all know speed is the most important stat. :lol:

Have you ever played football, or even understand defenses? Safeties are a part of the defensive secondary, a group responsible for anything that gets past the line and 'backers, either vertically or horizontally. Safeties need to be able to cover 1-on-1. Free safeties should be able to match up with a WR, but should rarely have to. They need the speed to get from one side of the field to the other. The SS should be able to match up with a TE in coverage, because in a 3-4/4-3 Cover 1, they cover the TE. Depending on the defense, the SS can be just another LB lining up a little behind the rest.
The DL isn't there to plug holes, they are there to contain (DE) and take on blockers (DT). Linebackers plug holes.

Listen to chronoaug, lucky he's willing to divulge good information like that.

Originally posted by ydarb
Have you ever played football, or even understand defenses? Safeties are a part of the defensive secondary, a group responsible for anything that gets past the line and 'backers, either vertically or horizontally. Safeties need to be able to cover 1-on-1. Free safeties should be able to match up with a WR, but should rarely have to. They need the speed to get from one side of the field to the other. The SS should be able to match up with a TE in coverage, because in a 3-4/4-3 Cover 1, they cover the TE. Depending on the defense, the SS can be just another LB lining up a little behind the rest.
The DL isn't there to plug holes, they are there to contain (DE) and take on blockers (DT). Linebackers plug holes.

What the hell was I thinking? I thought the SS and FS were the guys in the middle of the first dot line. You know, the one right next to the other teams dot line. Is that not right? Oh geez. Thank you for educating me on what football really means.

I am well aware of what each position is for and what each is demanded of them. Apparently, in this game, there is only one way to skin a cat and there is only one defense that all DC's run. Therefore, any other build techniques must be wrong if the cat is still alive once those who do not conform skin it.

No one is saying there is only one way to build. But you're selling your attributes short if you think you should stop speed/agility/vision @ 68 each. Srsly dude... you're making the same mistake that all the season 1 guys did that aren't in the Pro's. And if they are in the Pro's they're struggling. You are basically making your players ok at everything great at nothing. The best way to make players in this game is to make them GREAT at one thing and then round out the others so they're maybe substandard in other areas, but they make up for it by being great at one thing. In safeties cases... it's generally speed/vision.

Coming from a First Season player who built an SS, he got speed and agility to 74 late, and late in his career it showed. Not my fault as he was tweaked this way and that due to sim changes over the seasons. Now, I'd take speed and agility straight to 74, and vision to 68/74. I'd also take strength and tackling to 70 too.

My player has too much in catching and stamina. These points elsewhere would have made all the difference. He has done Ok in a Pro team though, so he wasn't all bad. Now? Not a chance, and he's declining. I'm thinking of one more season with him.

Originally posted by CG
Listen to chronoaug, lucky he's willing to divulge good information like that.

Damn. Haven't seen you around in awhile. USAPL definitely misses you guys, although i won't miss having to gameplan against WRs like Ball$ Deep. When all these people here say that 100-110 speed is enough for a safety, they never got to play you guys back then. Don't know what it was about him but he was always the only WR that burned Alpine deep more than once (since cav's defense back then was pretty conservative).

If you know of any similar WRs throw them our way . I'm sure i'll see some of you in usapl forums since alpine and mem (your wr is there i noticed) are both back. Take care

Initially, I only took speed/agi/vis to 68 and now look, I have a SS that's going to WL.

chronoaug also said he was one of the best free agent SS builds out there (I quoted it, I can find it again!). Makes me feel all tingly inside.

Originally posted by fofofofo
Initially, I only took speed/agi/vis to 68 and now look, I have a SS that's going to WL.

chronoaug also said he was one of the best free agent SS builds out there (I quoted it, I can find it again!). Makes me feel all tingly inside.




I mainly found it depressing how few good SSs there were on the market. Not to mention i've never been that proud of yohji since i started him as an experiment but abandoned it early on to try and salvage it for a solid coverage guy.


Also, you'd probably be best taking 1 or two to the 74cap. Hell, look at valhalla's untouchable D. 4 of their 5 safeties have over 125 speed. Even their CBs are rolling with some sick speed and less agility it seems than most CBs are going (115-77 rather than 100-93)

Also, there are hardly any safeties on the market this offseason. It's depressing. Also, my SS already declined to play backup in WL earlier in the offseason

Congrats on being one of the few decent SSs in the market. Hell, any SS above lvl 65 who isn't build poorly probably will find a WL or at least top notch pro team this season. WIth more and more slowbuilds coming up who are better and better built, things will change though. Already changing as below average builds who were able to play well early in GLB won't be as good as they used to be. Builds get better and better each season

There's a reason teams like the blaze, hali and valhalla are dominant. I know hali's safeties last season both had 120+speed and 80+ vision if i remember correctly (asheme's guys)

Honestly, i try to help partially because there are soooo few good safeties in free agency like every season. It's like pulling teeth unless you're a top WL team and can network for the good ones or get the few ones that actually pop up in the market. I could care less about any of my dots being revered or e-glory or anything and i don't care about what other agents are doing. I just think that a lot of people build inefficient safeties who often could be better in areas. There are plenty of "solid" safties who will still perform reasonabley well in Pros but it's always part of GLB to find the bigger and better builds. SOme of my safeties are experiments, some failed experiments who i try to salvage or retired (didn't save the name though so doesn't pop up) and i'll probably hit 1-2 and have an elite build out of it. Just playing some video games

Originally posted by chronoaug
I mainly found it depressing how few good SSs there were on the market.

Yeah, that's how I figured you meant it. I just wanted to chime in on the thread. As a player, I'm glad there aren't that many out there, because then my SS gets a chance to play above his worth, but for you as a GM, I can see how that can be frustrating.

Originally posted by fofofofo
Originally posted by chronoaug

I mainly found it depressing how few good SSs there were on the market.

Yeah, that's how I figured you meant it. I just wanted to chime in on the thread. As a player, I'm glad there aren't that many out there, because then my SS gets a chance to play above his worth, but for you as a GM, I can see how that can be frustrating.

Yea, like i said i'm not overly concerned about dot glory. I like winning games. I was looking for safeties for alpine and qcbc and wasn't seeing a whole lot. I figure as long as my builds are solid enough i can find a solid team. It's finding the best builds for a team that is really tough. The blaze, hali and valhalla have some nasty builds and it's hard to keep up with them.

How should I start off building my new FS?

Keep in mind that I am looking to build one that force fumbles..