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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
ICECOLD! is the best player in GLB. He's going after that receiving yardage record yet again this year. Just try and stop him.


ICECOLD! is among the bettert WRs in USAPL, but is a bit overrated due to people looking only at his quantitative statistics tbh. He benefits from being Targeted well more than the other good USAPL WRs but struggles comparatively when you analyze the qualitative statistics behind his numbers.

If you remove the gutted teams you played last season, he was targeted 12x per game (among the very tops in the league), yet had a reception% of only 43%. That is actually subpar for elite USAPL WRs. (For comparison sake, our top WRs from BSB from last season, Flash and Stretch had reception% of 59% and 56% respectively and I am not claiming either to be the best player in GLB).

Also, his yards/target and TD/target are middle-of-the-road, obviously impacted by his low reception%.

So is he great? Sure. But is he the best player in GLB? I wouldn't call him one of the very best in USAPL tbh. Hauling in only 43% of his targets is just not very good.

Edited by CTap on Jun 18, 2009 13:53:23
 
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Eh, our view of him might be tainted by his lack of success vs us - he average 5 ypa and threw 4 TDs with 11 INTs in 4 games vs us.


Well, whadda ya expect against one of the best in the West?


Regardless of the level of competition, 4 TDs vs 11 INTs is not good career numbers.
 
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monkeys loving monkeys o_O


This sounds like a movie that I would expect StrinG to have downloaded to his PC o_O
 
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Originally posted by CTap
ICECOLD! is among the bettert WRs in USAPL, but is a bit overrated due to people looking only at his quantitative statistics tbh. He benefits from being Targeted well more than the other good USAPL WRs but struggles comparatively when you analyze the qualitative statistics behind his numbers.

If you remove the gutted teams you played last season, he was targeted 12x per game (among the very tops in the league), yet had a reception% of only 43%. That is actually subpar for elite USAPL WRs. (For comparison sake, our top WRs from BSB from last season, Flash and Stretch had reception% of 59% and 56% respectively and I am not claiming either to be the best player in GLB).

Also, his yards/target and TD/target are middle-of-the-road, obviously impacted by his low reception%.

So is he great? Sure. But is he the best player in GLB? I wouldn't call him one of the very best in USAPL tbh. Hauling in only 43% of his targets is just not very good.



I'd put him and Martinmas of NAN atop the WR list in the LEast. ICECOLD's had some good games against us in the past and Martinmas torched our secondary last season.
 
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Originally posted by joemiken
Originally posted by CTap

ICECOLD! is among the bettert WRs in USAPL, but is a bit overrated due to people looking only at his quantitative statistics tbh. He benefits from being Targeted well more than the other good USAPL WRs but struggles comparatively when you analyze the qualitative statistics behind his numbers.

If you remove the gutted teams you played last season, he was targeted 12x per game (among the very tops in the league), yet had a reception% of only 43%. That is actually subpar for elite USAPL WRs. (For comparison sake, our top WRs from BSB from last season, Flash and Stretch had reception% of 59% and 56% respectively and I am not claiming either to be the best player in GLB).

Also, his yards/target and TD/target are middle-of-the-road, obviously impacted by his low reception%.

So is he great? Sure. But is he the best player in GLB? I wouldn't call him one of the very best in USAPL tbh. Hauling in only 43% of his targets is just not very good.



I'd put him and Martinmas of NAN atop the WR list in the LEast. ICECOLD's had some good games against us in the past and Martinmas torched our secondary last season.


ICECOLD! caught 2 of the 8 passes thrown to him vs you guys last season. While his 52 yards and 1 TD is good, he wasn't great by any means only catching 25% of the passes thrown to him. Didn't look to see what he did vs you guys the season before.

Blake targeted ICECOLD! a whopping 193 times last season so there was almost no way for him NOT to have good quantitative statistics.

If ICECOLD! could bring his reception% up to 55% or better, which should be the goal for top WRs, I would definitely consider him a top guy.
Edited by CTap on Jun 18, 2009 14:19:17
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
ICECOLD! is the best player in GLB. He's going after that receiving yardage record yet again this year. Just try and stop him.


As long as you always have games like this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288703

Where you pass 84 times and run 4 times (with a top 5 RB in GLB getting just 2 carries), no one really gives a fuck about his stats or your pissant trophies where you don't matter at all in the playoffs.

But you play the game with the utmost dignity and shit, right TSE?
 
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Originally posted by CTap
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

ICECOLD! is the best player in GLB. He's going after that receiving yardage record yet again this year. Just try and stop him.


ICECOLD! is among the bettert WRs in USAPL, but is a bit overrated due to people looking only at his quantitative statistics tbh. He benefits from being Targeted well more than the other good USAPL WRs but struggles comparatively when you analyze the qualitative statistics behind his numbers.

If you remove the gutted teams you played last season, he was targeted 12x per game (among the very tops in the league), yet had a reception% of only 43%. That is actually subpar for elite USAPL WRs. (For comparison sake, our top WRs from BSB from last season, Flash and Stretch had reception% of 59% and 56% respectively and I am not claiming either to be the best player in GLB).

Also, his yards/target and TD/target are middle-of-the-road, obviously impacted by his low reception%.

So is he great? Sure. But is he the best player in GLB? I wouldn't call him one of the very best in USAPL tbh. Hauling in only 43% of his targets is just not very good.



I more or less feel it is the guy throwing him the ball that makes him look bad.
 
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Originally posted by Drago
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

ICECOLD! is the best player in GLB. He's going after that receiving yardage record yet again this year. Just try and stop him.


As long as you always have games like this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288703

Where you pass 84 times and run 4 times (with a top 5 RB in GLB getting just 2 carries), no one really gives a fuck about his stats or your pissant trophies where you don't matter at all in the playoffs.

But you play the game with the utmost dignity and shit, right TSE?


We could say the same thing about Larry Csonka....

As long as you always have games like this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=472290

Where you run 78 times and pass 5 times (with a top 5(according to CV) QB getting just 5 passes), no one really gives a fuck about his stats or your pissant trophies where you don't matter at all in the championship game.

But you play the game with the utmost dignity and shit, right Drago?
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by CTap

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert


ICECOLD! is the best player in GLB. He's going after that receiving yardage record yet again this year. Just try and stop him.


ICECOLD! is among the bettert WRs in USAPL, but is a bit overrated due to people looking only at his quantitative statistics tbh. He benefits from being Targeted well more than the other good USAPL WRs but struggles comparatively when you analyze the qualitative statistics behind his numbers.

If you remove the gutted teams you played last season, he was targeted 12x per game (among the very tops in the league), yet had a reception% of only 43%. That is actually subpar for elite USAPL WRs. (For comparison sake, our top WRs from BSB from last season, Flash and Stretch had reception% of 59% and 56% respectively and I am not claiming either to be the best player in GLB).

Also, his yards/target and TD/target are middle-of-the-road, obviously impacted by his low reception%.

So is he great? Sure. But is he the best player in GLB? I wouldn't call him one of the very best in USAPL tbh. Hauling in only 43% of his targets is just not very good.



I more or less feel it is the guy throwing him the ball that makes him look bad.


I readily admit that I am too lazy to check the reception% for the other WRs on DDL. They could have even lower ones but the fact remains that ICECOLD!'s is far from excellent.
 
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Originally posted by kadafitcd
Originally posted by Drago

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert


ICECOLD! is the best player in GLB. He's going after that receiving yardage record yet again this year. Just try and stop him.


As long as you always have games like this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288703

Where you pass 84 times and run 4 times (with a top 5 RB in GLB getting just 2 carries), no one really gives a fuck about his stats or your pissant trophies where you don't matter at all in the playoffs.

But you play the game with the utmost dignity and shit, right TSE?


We could say the same thing about Larry Csonka....

As long as you always have games like this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=472290

Where you run 78 times and pass 5 times (with a top 5(according to CV) QB getting just 5 passes), no one really gives a fuck about his stats or your pissant trophies where you don't matter at all in the championship game.

But you play the game with the utmost dignity and shit, right Drago?


The link in this post is from season 8 and is therefore erroneous.
 
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Originally posted by remus7x
Originally posted by kadafitcd

Originally posted by Drago


Originally posted by The Strategy Expert



ICECOLD! is the best player in GLB. He's going after that receiving yardage record yet again this year. Just try and stop him.


As long as you always have games like this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288703

Where you pass 84 times and run 4 times (with a top 5 RB in GLB getting just 2 carries), no one really gives a fuck about his stats or your pissant trophies where you don't matter at all in the playoffs.

But you play the game with the utmost dignity and shit, right TSE?


We could say the same thing about Larry Csonka....

As long as you always have games like this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=472290

Where you run 78 times and pass 5 times (with a top 5(according to CV) QB getting just 5 passes), no one really gives a fuck about his stats or your pissant trophies where you don't matter at all in the championship game.

But you play the game with the utmost dignity and shit, right Drago?


The link in this post is from season 8 and is therefore erroneous.


Yes but the link in Drago's post was from season 7. It was also a link to a game in which DDL played a gutted out Kentucky Wildcats team...
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
ICECOLD! is the best player in GLB. He's going after that receiving yardage record yet again this year. Just try and stop him.


Groundhog Day lol
 
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