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Originally posted by Firenze
Originally posted by Maddoc

Originally posted by tdm13


I have 8 sacks in 7 games against even competition in SA A#4. Not to mention my 13 hurries and 20 tackles. I am pleased.


Since games in an A league are obviously indicative of the way the sim works at higher levels, I'm p relieved


P much. Coincidentally, I have a DE in SA A#4...he has 19 tackles, 20 hurries and 9 sacks.

He even got 3 sacks against tdm's team.


What is all this p nonsense? I don't understand

And we won the game, so that's all that matters I did record a sack in that game, but our DEs seem to be even despite my backup role on my team and your starting role.
 
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DE's brought back to reality=broken.....not sure i agree.....sorry you're not getting the 100 sack season that all DE's should get.....oh wait....now it's turning into a real game of tactics and builds....my mistake!!!!


Lets leave the conservation to those who understand the concept. DLs being forced to have realistic numbers vs. all teams despite there not being parity in most leagues when every other position has grossly out of whack stats has thrown off the balance of this game. Until the DL is made effective again, offense will rule. When will some of the unintelligent people in this game understand that you can't force realistic stats, you have to have parity. It's not turning into a real game, it's turning into a game where DLs are completely useless and just used as space eaters. May I recommend doing more research before flaunting your opinion, it makes you come off as ignorant.


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This +100000. Dumbing down stats so people can feel good about their shit player is not the way to go. The only thing needed in s6 was STR to be made more viable. That was it.



Totally agreed with that. If Bort had made the changes he made recently to OL strength and DL strength, things would have been just fine.
 
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Originally posted by tdm13
Originally posted by Firenze

Originally posted by Maddoc


Originally posted by tdm13



I have 8 sacks in 7 games against even competition in SA A#4. Not to mention my 13 hurries and 20 tackles. I am pleased.


Since games in an A league are obviously indicative of the way the sim works at higher levels, I'm p relieved


P much. Coincidentally, I have a DE in SA A#4...he has 19 tackles, 20 hurries and 9 sacks.

He even got 3 sacks against tdm's team.


What is all this p nonsense? I don't understand

And we won the game, so that's all that matters I did record a sack in that game, but our DEs seem to be even despite my backup role on my team and your starting role.


The starters have to go up against the starting O-line most of the time. You get to waltz around our backup O-line.
 
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Originally posted by Icky Thump
Originally posted by tdm13

I have 8 sacks in 7 games against even competition in SA A#4. Not to mention my 13 hurries and 20 tackles. I am pleased.


1 sack in games decided by less than 3 TD's.... in an A level league... yeah there is great evidence of DE's being on the right track. Get back to us when you get at least to a AAA league.


Our opponent's combine record is 29-19. Stfu about weaker competition.
 
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Originally posted by Firenze
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Originally posted by Firenze


Originally posted by Maddoc



Originally posted by tdm13




I have 8 sacks in 7 games against even competition in SA A#4. Not to mention my 13 hurries and 20 tackles. I am pleased.


Since games in an A league are obviously indicative of the way the sim works at higher levels, I'm p relieved


False. All my sacks have come against either the starting O-line guy or a decent back-up.
P much. Coincidentally, I have a DE in SA A#4...he has 19 tackles, 20 hurries and 9 sacks.

He even got 3 sacks against tdm's team.


What is all this p nonsense? I don't understand

And we won the game, so that's all that matters I did record a sack in that game, but our DEs seem to be even despite my backup role on my team and your starting role.


The starters have to go up against the starting O-line most of the time. You get to waltz around our backup O-line.


 
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Originally posted by tdm13
Originally posted by Icky Thump

Originally posted by tdm13


I have 8 sacks in 7 games against even competition in SA A#4. Not to mention my 13 hurries and 20 tackles. I am pleased.


1 sack in games decided by less than 3 TD's.... in an A level league... yeah there is great evidence of DE's being on the right track. Get back to us when you get at least to a AAA league.


Our opponent's combine record is 29-19. Stfu about weaker competition.



Say what you want man... you got 1 sack against competition worth a shit.
 
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Originally posted by tdm13
Originally posted by Icky Thump

Originally posted by tdm13


I have 8 sacks in 7 games against even competition in SA A#4. Not to mention my 13 hurries and 20 tackles. I am pleased.


1 sack in games decided by less than 3 TD's.... in an A level league... yeah there is great evidence of DE's being on the right track. Get back to us when you get at least to a AAA league.


Our opponent's combine record is 29-19. Stfu about weaker competition.


You play in a level 24 capped league. My DE in a level 24 capped league had like 60 sacks last season. In low level leagues, speed DEs can just run around OTs who haven't had a chance to raise their speed and agility yet.

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Originally posted by Icky Thump
Originally posted by tdm13

Originally posted by Icky Thump


Originally posted by tdm13



I have 8 sacks in 7 games against even competition in SA A#4. Not to mention my 13 hurries and 20 tackles. I am pleased.


1 sack in games decided by less than 3 TD's.... in an A level league... yeah there is great evidence of DE's being on the right track. Get back to us when you get at least to a AAA league.


Our opponent's combine record is 29-19. Stfu about weaker competition.


Tell that to 2 teams that are 6-1 currently and another that is 5-2.

Do you even do research before spouting off filth?
Say what you want man... you got 1 sack against competition worth a shit.


 
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Originally posted by jrry32
You play in a level 24 capped league. My DE in a level 24 capped league had like 60 sacks last season. In low level leagues, speed DEs can just run around OTs who haven't had a chance to raise their speed and agility yet.


This is pretty much the point I was getting at.

Over the next fifteen to twenty levels the interaction between the O-Line and D-Line changes so drastically that you'd probably never even recognize it.
 
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Originally posted by Maddoc
Originally posted by jrry32

You play in a level 24 capped league. My DE in a level 24 capped league had like 60 sacks last season. In low level leagues, speed DEs can just run around OTs who haven't had a chance to raise their speed and agility yet.


This is pretty much the point I was getting at.

Over the next fifteen to twenty levels the interaction between the O-Line and D-Line changes so drastically that you'd probably never even recognize it.


Heck over the next 6 levels there's a huge shift.
 
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I was merely showing that's there's parity outside of BBB this season. Forgive me for thinking that I could provide evidence without public backlash.
 
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Originally posted by tdm13
I was merely showing that's there's parity outside of BBB this season. Forgive me for thinking that I could provide evidence without public backlash.


I don't think you understand what parity means.
 
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Originally posted by tdm13
I was merely showing that's there's parity outside of BBB this season. Forgive me for thinking that I could provide evidence without public backlash.


It's primarily because whenever people complain about D-Line impotency, someone comes in and goes "HAY GUISE MY LEVEL 10 DE GETS SACKS, EVERYTHING'S OK NOW"
 
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Originally posted by Maddoc
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I was merely showing that's there's parity outside of BBB this season. Forgive me for thinking that I could provide evidence without public backlash.


It's primarily because whenever people complain about D-Line impotency, someone comes in and goes "HAY GUISE MY LEVEL 10 DE GETS SACKS, EVERYTHING'S OK NOW"


Well I'm a DE playing even competition in a shuffled cap 24 league, and I'm getting some pressure against top teams. That's all I was presenting to this discussion. I've been a huge proponent of fixing the DE/OT interaction, and would love to see change. But all I am saying is that it is possible to average a sack against even competition this season (at least in my league)
 
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The entire DE crying thing never ceases to amaze me. How is it that some have no problem what-so ever with there player{s} and some just don’t understand what the F--- is going on with there guy.
Have the ones that have the problems with there defensive ends ever thought about taking a long hard look at there players build or actually doing some homework to find out what works and what doesn’t
 
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