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Originally posted by rj414
Originally posted by cbtd10

Originally posted by Ubasstards


Originally posted by Drago



Originally posted by thehazyone




well I can already tell you that next season dedicated ST units will be a thing of the past because Bort is going to implement a maximum roster size.

Where do I suggest that's a stupid fucking idea as well?



its an excellent idea actually. No dedicated ST players
Why? At every level from HS to NFL, most of the ST players play mostly on ST.

Yeah. We could make it so having a dedicated ST could get you 1 or 2 touchdowns a game instead of 8. Or we can just rape every team that is using a dedicated ST unit. good plan.

Seriously. Having dedicated ST units should give you an edge. An 8 TDs advantage? No. 1 TD or 2 a game? Heh, that's a lot too. A few more forced fumbles, KR TDs and better field position? Absolutely.

Originally posted by rj414
Bort is in over his head. VAs are the single reason for all the craziness, too - remove them and the sim would return to being semi realistic, or would at least be much easier to return to that level. Because of VAs, Bort's usual strategy of pin the nerf on the donkey will never be able to plug all the holes and problems with the sim logic. They introduce a variable he doesnt understand and can't control. You can't introduce that kind of complexity to a game if you're the only programmer, esp. if the game didn't work right in the first place.

this made me laugh uncontrollably for a few seconds.

Originally posted by islander1
datong - had to update the outside blocking VA btw - I was thinking of goal line blocker but the effects of outside blocker with the speed/vision is amazing. I think defenses would be better off having outside blocker affect strength and blocking because they are getting pancaked regardless

Yeah, people thought PBs were beasts last season, wait until they face some elusive backs with a ton of head fakes, juke and spin, +15 quick feet and +20% fake chance AE. Put them behind blockers with 15 outside blockers, it's pretty much unstoppable.

Originally posted by datongw
Originally posted by islander1

datong - had to update the outside blocking VA btw - I was thinking of goal line blocker but the effects of outside blocker with the speed/vision is amazing. I think defenses would be better off having outside blocker affect strength and blocking because they are getting pancaked regardless

Yeah, people thought PBs were beasts last season, wait until they face some elusive backs with a ton of head fakes, juke and spin, +15 quick feet and +20% fake chance AE. Put them behind blockers with 15 outside blockers, it's pretty much unstoppable.

Haha - I did that today too.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=473659

Oh, btw apparently that's another team that 'isn't a top team' and 'can't DC', if you ask hazy.

Originally posted by cbtd10
Originally posted by Ubasstards

Originally posted by Drago


Originally posted by thehazyone



well I can already tell you that next season dedicated ST units will be a thing of the past because Bort is going to implement a maximum roster size.

Where do I suggest that's a stupid fucking idea as well?



its an excellent idea actually. No dedicated ST players
Why? At every level from HS to NFL, most of the ST players play mostly on ST.

True, but do these special teamers get 15% bonus to their abilities for playing on special teams? I mean does a guy that runs 4.5 40 all of a sudden run 4.1 40 because he's playing on special teams?

Originally posted by rj414
Originally posted by datongw

Originally posted by islander1


datong - had to update the outside blocking VA btw - I was thinking of goal line blocker but the effects of outside blocker with the speed/vision is amazing. I think defenses would be better off having outside blocker affect strength and blocking because they are getting pancaked regardless

Yeah, people thought PBs were beasts last season, wait until they face some elusive backs with a ton of head fakes, juke and spin, +15 quick feet and +20% fake chance AE. Put them behind blockers with 15 outside blockers, it's pretty much unstoppable.

Haha - I did that today too.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=473659

Oh, btw apparently that's another team that 'isn't a top team' and 'can't DC', if you ask hazy.

Or another team that doesn't have access to test server to test out stuff.

Originally posted by datongw
Originally posted by cbtd10

Originally posted by Ubasstards


Originally posted by Drago



Originally posted by thehazyone




well I can already tell you that next season dedicated ST units will be a thing of the past because Bort is going to implement a maximum roster size.

Where do I suggest that's a stupid fucking idea as well?



its an excellent idea actually. No dedicated ST players
Why? At every level from HS to NFL, most of the ST players play mostly on ST.

True, but do these special teamers get 15% bonus to their abilities for playing on special teams? I mean does a guy that runs 4.5 40 all of a sudden run 4.1 40 because he's playing on special teams?
Removing the VAs is fine. Removing the possibility for specialized ST units isn't.

i'm sure this was said somewhere...
and i'm sure i'll be laughed at for saying it...

but i think this is an easier fix than everyone's making it out to be
quite simply put a roster cap in. and now. as opposed to next season.
there's several reasons why you do this, and several ways that this thought =works=. i know no one will read them, or give this any true thought. but you should

first. i'm one of the ones that'll play this game regardless. i love my players, and i love the team i own. so i'll be around no matter what. however, there's a lot of players that want better, and feel the deserve better and fairer games

a roster cap isn't hard to implement. it really isn't
i know there will be teams that say 'omg but it's not fair, i was prepared, i shouldn't have to cut, etc etc etc'
there was a disclaimer on the play creator, wasn't there? everyone was told if there are exploits and unfair advantages, we're pulling it back. this is the same thing. i'm sorry that people exploit VA's and people exploit depth until you have players who do one task 4-5 times a game, but that's not how this game was intended. and now it needs to stop. =now=
season 9 is already making people angry. putting a roster cap will make the teams who have super depth upset, but that's because they have the advantages. i understand they have a fair advantage according to the current rules.... but if you're already planning on changing them next season because you know it's not fair..... why not do it now

and here's the answer
you dont wanna do it now because it's not fair to do it with no prep time, right?
so make a chemistry grace period. is this not a reasonable fix? tell everyone they have a week, and no chem loss in this period. i know this wont happen, i know everyone would throw a fit. 'how do i chose who i cut? how come i have to cut anyone? i wasn't logged on, and now i'm punished for a rule change in mid season?'
simple. act like an owner. cut those that aren't as valuable. because right now this isn't fair or in the spirit of the game. and rules shouldn't be applied midseason... but a roster cap is something that should have been thought about in SEASON 1. christ every real sport has them for this same reason

league level caps were applied for a very similar reason. it was implemented so low lvl teams wouldn't horde players and force high talent to the top. what it did was force the high lvl players to instead bully low lvl teams and stat pad, to joining up with teams that were amazingly good already. and now they're beyond stacked. it was a great idea, but now it needs to go one step further
roster cap. i know it wont happen, and i know scores will look stupid for the remainder of this season. but like i said earlier, i'm not the one that'll be hurt and leave. but people are on their way out. so it might be a smart idea to think of a way to fix this in season, or you may not need roster caps for the next one

I'll tell you what summed up this all up for me. The Shockers and GB have played so many big games against each other I have lost count. I have a tremendous respect for their owner, GMs & players. Before every game, I always PM the owner and several GMs and wish them luck.

After every game up until today, I had pmed them and said GG, and, W or L, always sincerely meant it...I couldn't say GG today. On their side, it was one massive outside play to their HBs after another. On our side, we FFum them. I was flat out embarrassed with how we won. Ironically, if I'd been the owner of the Shockers and the Shockers had won instead, I would have been every bit as embarrassed by winning on so many big screens, pitches and sweeps. I know this sounds cheesy, but I was flat out embarrassed of both of our games, and neither of us did anything in the least little bit wrong.

Edit: BTW, we only got 1 FFum on returns. The other 5 were against their O. So, it wasn't a dedicated special teams issue either way....And they also got a pick 6 on when our QB threw the ball away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What the hell is that?!

Hey guys you have to look at the bright side....at least the team colors still work correctly. Good Job Bort, your the man.

sorry my post was so long. i know no one will read all of it.
as a recap...
put roster cap restrictions in now
trust me it's the best option

Originally posted by cbtd10

Removing the VAs is fine. Removing the possibility for specialized ST units isn't.


completely agree there. you should have an advantage the more players you can acquire to play special teams and depth...they shouldnt be given an even bigger advantage for being bench stars however.

Originally posted by aspenwolf
sorry my post was so long. i know no one will read all of it.
as a recap...
put roster cap restrictions in now
trust me it's the best option

For a moment there, I thought RJ had taken over your body and went crazy with the long posts.

Originally posted by PP
I'll tell you what summed up this all up for me. The Shockers and GB have played so many big games against each other I have lost count. I have a tremendous respect for their owner, GMs & players. Before every game, I always PM the owner and several GMs and wish them luck.

After every game up until today, I had pmed them and said GG, and, W or L, always sincerely meant it...I couldn't say GG today. On their side, it was one massive outside play to their HBs after another. On our side, we FFum them. I was flat out embarrassed with how we won. Ironically, if I'd been the owner of the Shockers and the Shockers had won instead, I would have been every bit as embarrassed by winning on so many big screens, pitches and sweeps. I know this sounds cheesy, but I was flat out embarrassed of both of our games, and neither of us did anything in the least little bit wrong.

This is exactly how I felt about today's game with SDL.

i'll keep this one shorter...
it's insane at what some people are saying. specialized ST positions? that's super retarded
in basketball do you have a guard come in for 2 shots in the game? or how about a lineman, does he come in to block for a few snaps and then hit the showers? even better; a goalie in hockey suits up to stop pucks for a minute, while the goalie gets a breather?

seriously? is that what you want?
i understand having depth. i'm not saying punish depth
but having and entire unit devoted to special teams is dumb. and the only way you can justify it would be that you have it, you know it's a HUGE advantage, and you dont wanna get rid of it

well guess what, everyone knows it's an exploit, and it'll be gone next season
might as well get rid of it now and try to save season 9 since the season just started