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Underdawg08
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just a question I am curious. you guys have any blocking or jumping? say 35ish? or so?
 
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Originally posted by corporeal
Are strength DEs viable yet? With VPs in Heavyweight etc. They'd probably be poor against 'badly' built OTs with ridiculous strength and no agility, but good against well built OTs who've balanced strength with agility etc. Provided they work at all that is.


Heavyweight is better for Agility D.E's
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
just a question I am curious. you guys have any blocking or jumping? say 35ish? or so?


blocking is worthless...I know an agility/balanced DE with blocking past the soft cap and the player is not any good this season...
 
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My DE has been fairly successful - http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=860242

Not going to give away the build completely, but he's a speed rusher.
 
Shelby Delby
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Originally posted by faedie
My DE has been fairly successful - http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=860242

Not going to give away the build completely, but he's a speed rusher.


obviously a speed rusher beating up on low-level/gutted teams. no help here, gang.
 
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Originally posted by Shelby Delby
Originally posted by Shelby Delby

My last two games:
95 plays - 0 stats
84 plays - 0 stats.

and my DE is no creampuff...trust me.


78 plays - 0 stats

I saw a thread claiming that they thought the DEs were fixed... I've got no evidence of that.



86 plays - 1 hry

maybe i should be happy that i showed up on the scoresheet...

 
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Shelby,

Without seeing your player's build, and the success of other DEs, I am leaning towards the guess that you simply have a horrible build.
 
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Originally posted by ChicagoTRS
Originally posted by UnderDogs

just a question I am curious. you guys have any blocking or jumping? say 35ish? or so?


blocking is worthless...I know an agility/balanced DE with blocking past the soft cap and the player is not any good this season...


I wouldn't say worthless. With blocking past cap you will really be lacking in other areas that are more important for pass rushing, but training it to 30 or 35 certainly DOES help.
 
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Originally posted by ChicagoTRS
Originally posted by UnderDogs

just a question I am curious. you guys have any blocking or jumping? say 35ish? or so?


blocking is worthless...I know an agility/balanced DE with blocking past the soft cap and the player is not any good this season...


WIthout seeing the actual build I would guess that because he had blocking at soft cap then he's lacking in speed, agility.

People should get their speed/agility up to 70+ before they even consider working hard on other attributes. Not saying neglect them but it's been proven time and time again that "even build DE" sucks
 
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by ChicagoTRS

Originally posted by UnderDogs


just a question I am curious. you guys have any blocking or jumping? say 35ish? or so?


blocking is worthless...I know an agility/balanced DE with blocking past the soft cap and the player is not any good this season...


WIthout seeing the actual build I would guess that because he had blocking at soft cap then he's lacking in speed, agility.

People should get their speed/agility up to 70+ before they even consider working hard on other attributes. Not saying neglect them but it's been proven time and time again that "even build DE" sucks


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=88313

Not an incredible build but I would say it is above average. Only 1 sack this season in a non-blowout. Pretty typical of most DEs this year...big drop in production.

Anyway...to the point...definite high blocking for this DE...has not seemed to help much.
 
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Originally posted by ChicagoTRS
Anyway...to the point...definite high blocking for this DE...has not seemed to help much.


nothing will help a D.E. who is that slow.
Not a good build for a level 45 by any means. no offense but he is VERY poorly built. I would be willing to say, in the PRO's, it's probably the blocking that is helping him a lot.
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Shelby Delby
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Shelby,

Without seeing your player's build, and the success of other DEs, I am leaning towards the guess that you simply have a horrible build.


my build, imo, is the agility-build target that many among us were shooting for.

agility mid 90's
speed 3rd cap
strength 2nd cap
vision, tackling, stamina all at or pretty much at 1st cap
SAs are 63671
VA 10 in quick

What would you do to improve that?
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Originally posted by Shelby Delby
Originally posted by BiggerBlue

Shelby,

Without seeing your player's build, and the success of other DEs, I am leaning towards the guess that you simply have a horrible build.


my build, imo, is the agility-build target that many among us were shooting for.

agility mid 90's
speed 3rd cap
strength 2nd cap
vision, tackling, stamina all at or pretty much at 1st cap
SAs are 63671

What would you do to improve that?


You probably should of spend the sp's in tackling into things like change direction, shed block, and more t.v.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by ChicagoTRS

Anyway...to the point...definite high blocking for this DE...has not seemed to help much.


nothing will help a D.E. who is that slow.
Not a good build for a level 45 by any means. no offense but he is VERY poorly built. I would be willing to say, in the PRO's, it's probably the blocking that is helping him a lot.


I do not take any offense...it is a random open build...I have no connection to this build.

100 agility...70+ speed...65 Str...50 vision...ok SAs...I definitely would not classify that as VERY poor...pretty good production throughout his career. I am not saying it is the best build ever but if you think this is very poor you have not looked at many builds...

I guess that is the trade off for soft capping blocking...could have around 10 more speed instead...
 
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