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Originally posted by henne
and you stated that you earned your "right" to be in EE Pro. By gutting your team and having all CPU's, the powers that be felt that you abused that right and shall no longer have it. Should there of been more dialog? yes.....but everyone was in the wrong. Lets just move on.


"Randy is just 1 owner in this leauge. There are 31 others in this league who should have an equa voice. The simple fact that this bothers noone is the root of the entire problem. Allowing 1 person to speak for the whole is not a good idea in my opinion. You guys only feed into his egotistical addiction."
 
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However, for this season it seems you wanted to be here to spite Randy. That is what I am getting from the above statement from you Kutzy. He forced you here, so now you want to shaft him with a gutted team. Obviously, I don't know you real agenda and that way didn't work out anyways...but that is indeed how it appears.


Which would have been be his right to do so as an owner. Nothing much you have to add to that I assume.

Henne's post more or less explains.
 
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Originally posted by henne
Originally posted by Kutzy

"I wanted to stay because I EARNED my way here. Until Bort changes the rules of the entire game (not just on league) I stil deserve to own a team in EE PRO. Until you give me one reason why my team was relegated (and give me rules backing your stance) I will not waiver from this stance. The thing that irritates me the most was because he had to go behind mine and the entire leagues back to do it sneaky like. Have some god damn common courtesy."


Your team earned the right, not you. You removed the entire team and did not field a roster. The league minimum us a Lvl 26 player....you did not field a roster of Lvl 26+ players.

I also don't really think he went behind your back....he mentioned half a billion times that he had pmed Bort to have EE Org demoted


I was never given a chance to be honest. 3 days is not a chance to field a team. Im sure you can agree with that. And dont say I didnt try. GO back and look at recruiting threads. You will see be posting in there.
 
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Originally posted by Kutzy
Originally posted by henne

and you stated that you earned your "right" to be in EE Pro. By gutting your team and having all CPU's, the powers that be felt that you abused that right and shall no longer have it. Should there of been more dialog? yes.....but everyone was in the wrong. Lets just move on.


"Randy is just 1 owner in this leauge. There are 31 others in this league who should have an equa voice. The simple fact that this bothers noone is the root of the entire problem. Allowing 1 person to speak for the whole is not a good idea in my opinion. You guys only feed into his egotistical addiction."

Randy posted multiple times to get people to voice their opinion to Support about getting the league fixed. He didn't say "Tell them to remove these teams", just made the suggested moves. He went ahead and sent in his two cents, every owner could have sent in theirs.

Just because Randy was most vocal doesn't mean shit.
 
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Originally posted by Kutzy
Originally posted by henne

Originally posted by Kutzy


"I wanted to stay because I EARNED my way here. Until Bort changes the rules of the entire game (not just on league) I stil deserve to own a team in EE PRO. Until you give me one reason why my team was relegated (and give me rules backing your stance) I will not waiver from this stance. The thing that irritates me the most was because he had to go behind mine and the entire leagues back to do it sneaky like. Have some god damn common courtesy."


Your team earned the right, not you. You removed the entire team and did not field a roster. The league minimum us a Lvl 26 player....you did not field a roster of Lvl 26+ players.

I also don't really think he went behind your back....he mentioned half a billion times that he had pmed Bort to have EE Org demoted


I was never given a chance to be honest. 3 days is not a chance to field a team. Im sure you can agree with that. And dont say I didnt try. GO back and look at recruiting threads. You will see be posting in there.


You are right, but you also failed the minimum requirements to have a team in EE Pro
 
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Originally posted by Kutzy
Originally posted by henne

Originally posted by Kutzy


"I wanted to stay because I EARNED my way here. Until Bort changes the rules of the entire game (not just on league) I stil deserve to own a team in EE PRO. Until you give me one reason why my team was relegated (and give me rules backing your stance) I will not waiver from this stance. The thing that irritates me the most was because he had to go behind mine and the entire leagues back to do it sneaky like. Have some god damn common courtesy."


Your team earned the right, not you. You removed the entire team and did not field a roster. The league minimum us a Lvl 26 player....you did not field a roster of Lvl 26+ players.

I also don't really think he went behind your back....he mentioned half a billion times that he had pmed Bort to have EE Org demoted


I was never given a chance to be honest. 3 days is not a chance to field a team. Im sure you can agree with that. And dont say I didnt try. GO back and look at recruiting threads. You will see be posting in there.


you forgot the quotes broe
 
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And let me add.....I am not taking Randy's side. I just hate drama. I personally don't feel that EEOrg should of been in EE Pro. Do I agree with how things were done? No....But that is between other people. This is just 2 stubborn people trying to prove their point and people jumping onboard. Let it go and lets enjoy some dots running around
 
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Originally posted by henne
Originally posted by Kutzy

Originally posted by henne


Originally posted by Kutzy



"I wanted to stay because I EARNED my way here. Until Bort changes the rules of the entire game (not just on league) I stil deserve to own a team in EE PRO. Until you give me one reason why my team was relegated (and give me rules backing your stance) I will not waiver from this stance. The thing that irritates me the most was because he had to go behind mine and the entire leagues back to do it sneaky like. Have some god damn common courtesy."


Your team earned the right, not you. You removed the entire team and did not field a roster. The league minimum us a Lvl 26 player....you did not field a roster of Lvl 26+ players.

I also don't really think he went behind your back....he mentioned half a billion times that he had pmed Bort to have EE Org demoted


I was never given a chance to be honest. 3 days is not a chance to field a team. Im sure you can agree with that. And dont say I didnt try. GO back and look at recruiting threads. You will see be posting in there.


You are right, but you also failed the minimum requirements to have a team in EE Pro


If you want, I can give you several examples of teams who have failed these requirements before. They were not relegated. Bort simply gave a 1 time exemption to Randy. Noone can deny that. Shoot first and ask questions later is a piss poor mentality to have.
 
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Originally posted by serialced
yes i am one of the people that have come to hate randy for his "efforts" to "better" the league.

These posts explain why:

Originally posted by kenyon1977

Originally posted by Randy03Texags



I really dont have the time or energy or desire to take care of things for the league, pretty much every season I want to quit GLB because Im sick of all the work I have to do to stay as competitive as my team is and then on top of it, I have to write things for the league, advertise and rep our league and then try to fix problems such as owners not selling when they should. Personally Id LOVE to just be able to concentrate on my team, I barely have enough time for that as it is.

Other than that, I have been terribly unsuccessful in my attempts to improve the league within the architecture of the game. The only things I have been successful with are my writeups, which the same thin skinned people who got upset at my desire to improve the league got upset with.

I might write something up again this season, as I havent seen anyone else that has added positive content to EE Pro like that in a long time, but we will see .. I also just think there is a vocal minority in EE Pro that wants to complain about things and right now Im the cool trend to complain about, Im sure in a few days it will be what Bort "nerfed" this season, or what Bort fucked up this season, if that isnt the trend already.


Randy that's just it, right there. Who in the hell appointed you commish of the league? Who decided that you needed to fix anything? Who the hell said anything was broke? Maybe some teams like the break when playing a cupcake now and then. Keep your dick feelers off the damn league and just worry about your team.

As far as your write ups go, in the past and early seasons of GLB they were informative and usually got some people arguing about the teams, then as the seasons went on and there was less competition for you (no doubt having something to do with no one leaving your team and chemistry) your write ups started to get jaded. You would write up, "so and so has not done the required work for recruiting and shouldn't even be in the league"" etc etc. who the hell wants to read that but yourself, your teammates, and possibly the owners of a couple other teams?

Get back to basics and stop self appointing yourself to babysit the league. It is what it is. A lot of guys stopped posting in the forum because they can't have fun anymore. Everything is so serious, and when someone even makes a good point some asshole runs in and corrects their spelling or some shit.

Either way, stop making yourself out to be a martyr, and if this isn't the level of competition you want move your team or gut them and start over, see how good you are when you actually have to recruit a full squad.


Originally posted by HoustonMark


I'm not sure how that last post fits into the rest of this...I'm finding it difficult to figure out why you said that at all. We can only beat someone one way here...dots. We are ALL here to play with dots. You run your mouth, we ask that you to put up or shut up...and you do neither. We're willing to take on your Misc anytime you're ready...but instead, you continue to flap your gums like you always do. Let's try to do this in the form others seem to be taking these days:

u scurred brah?


ok im willing to give a serious reply to this.
First of all: yes we all play this game and the dots. if i didnt like the game i wouldnt still be playing it.
there is a difference between casually playing a game and getting too serious about it.

Randy spoiled some of the fun with his little stint about crying to bort about how there were gutted teams and there being a serious need for a relegation.

he never stopped to think about other teams/owners/gms other than himself/his.
did he ever think about how some people dont mind playing 1 or 2 gutted teams during the season as a means to have a little break from gameplanning and stuff? I am by the way not the first nor only person to mention this.
He shouldnt have intervened with how the relegations work and just have them do their thing.

Who cares about the name EE Pro gets in the rest of GLB because of a couple gutted teams? The casual players dont. I dont. most people dont. They are here to have fun with the dots, not to obsess over them
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Please keep this thread somewhat serious.


this is pretty much why i act like an asshole.

this self righteous bullshit that randy spews about being a white knight that continually sacrifices himself for the league.

1) its pathetic he "does" so much for EE Pro
2) he is a fucking loser.

oh and im never going to accept his challenge because that is what he wants. i dont care about the result, i refuse to give him any satisfaction. i would seriously consider throwing a championship game if we played him because it would tick him off far more than the "glory" of winning.
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Originally posted by BigCountry
Originally posted by Kutzy

Originally posted by henne


Originally posted by Kutzy



"I wanted to stay because I EARNED my way here. Until Bort changes the rules of the entire game (not just on league) I stil deserve to own a team in EE PRO. Until you give me one reason why my team was relegated (and give me rules backing your stance) I will not waiver from this stance. The thing that irritates me the most was because he had to go behind mine and the entire leagues back to do it sneaky like. Have some god damn common courtesy."


Your team earned the right, not you. You removed the entire team and did not field a roster. The league minimum us a Lvl 26 player....you did not field a roster of Lvl 26+ players.

I also don't really think he went behind your back....he mentioned half a billion times that he had pmed Bort to have EE Org demoted


I was never given a chance to be honest. 3 days is not a chance to field a team. Im sure you can agree with that. And dont say I didnt try. GO back and look at recruiting threads. You will see be posting in there.


you forgot the quotes broe


As this point I use no more quotes. I want the whole damn forum to be locked for the night.
 
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Originally posted by henne
Originally posted by Kutzy

Originally posted by henne


Originally posted by Kutzy



"I wanted to stay because I EARNED my way here. Until Bort changes the rules of the entire game (not just on league) I stil deserve to own a team in EE PRO. Until you give me one reason why my team was relegated (and give me rules backing your stance) I will not waiver from this stance. The thing that irritates me the most was because he had to go behind mine and the entire leagues back to do it sneaky like. Have some god damn common courtesy."


Your team earned the right, not you. You removed the entire team and did not field a roster. The league minimum us a Lvl 26 player....you did not field a roster of Lvl 26+ players.

I also don't really think he went behind your back....he mentioned half a billion times that he had pmed Bort to have EE Org demoted


I was never given a chance to be honest. 3 days is not a chance to field a team. Im sure you can agree with that. And dont say I didnt try. GO back and look at recruiting threads. You will see be posting in there.


You are right, but you also failed the minimum requirements to have a team in EE Pro


Really? Because you may want to read fucking Promotion/Relegation rules again.

It doesn't say anything in there about randomly pulling people from a league at the whim of 1 owner, whether the team in question is competitive or not.

It says BOTTOM 2 down. It says CPU owned teams to the BOTTOM tier.

It says nothing about moving a team 1 league down just because.

 
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Originally posted by Kutzy
Originally posted by henne

Originally posted by Kutzy


Originally posted by henne



Originally posted by Kutzy




"I wanted to stay because I EARNED my way here. Until Bort changes the rules of the entire game (not just on league) I stil deserve to own a team in EE PRO. Until you give me one reason why my team was relegated (and give me rules backing your stance) I will not waiver from this stance. The thing that irritates me the most was because he had to go behind mine and the entire leagues back to do it sneaky like. Have some god damn common courtesy."


Your team earned the right, not you. You removed the entire team and did not field a roster. The league minimum us a Lvl 26 player....you did not field a roster of Lvl 26+ players.

I also don't really think he went behind your back....he mentioned half a billion times that he had pmed Bort to have EE Org demoted


I was never given a chance to be honest. 3 days is not a chance to field a team. Im sure you can agree with that. And dont say I didnt try. GO back and look at recruiting threads. You will see be posting in there.


You are right, but you also failed the minimum requirements to have a team in EE Pro


If you want, I can give you several examples of teams who have failed these requirements before. They were not relegated. Bort simply gave a 1 time exemption to Randy. Noone can deny that. Shoot first and ask questions later is a piss poor mentality to have.

Then why not bitch at Bort for allowing it as well? I understand you aren't one of the key contributors to all the dumb posting going on around here though. I'm confused why Misc gives two shits to be honest. Randy might have started it though, but he sure didn't have the power to execute it...
 
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Originally posted by NotRippedYet
Originally posted by henne

Originally posted by Kutzy


Originally posted by henne



Originally posted by Kutzy




"I wanted to stay because I EARNED my way here. Until Bort changes the rules of the entire game (not just on league) I stil deserve to own a team in EE PRO. Until you give me one reason why my team was relegated (and give me rules backing your stance) I will not waiver from this stance. The thing that irritates me the most was because he had to go behind mine and the entire leagues back to do it sneaky like. Have some god damn common courtesy."


Your team earned the right, not you. You removed the entire team and did not field a roster. The league minimum us a Lvl 26 player....you did not field a roster of Lvl 26+ players.

I also don't really think he went behind your back....he mentioned half a billion times that he had pmed Bort to have EE Org demoted


I was never given a chance to be honest. 3 days is not a chance to field a team. Im sure you can agree with that. And dont say I didnt try. GO back and look at recruiting threads. You will see be posting in there.


You are right, but you also failed the minimum requirements to have a team in EE Pro


Really? Because you may want to read fucking Promotion/Relegation rules again.

It doesn't say anything in there about randomly pulling people from a league at the whim of 1 owner, whether the team in question is competitive or not.

It says BOTTOM 2 down. It says CPU owned teams to the BOTTOM tier.

It says nothing about moving a team 1 league down just because.


You pathetic Miscs come out in droves don't you? Why would Kutzy getting relegated bother you or Misc? Simply just because it is happening?
 
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Originally posted by Rezlov
Originally posted by Kutzy

Originally posted by henne


Originally posted by Kutzy



Originally posted by henne




Originally posted by Kutzy





"I wanted to stay because I EARNED my way here. Until Bort changes the rules of the entire game (not just on league) I stil deserve to own a team in EE PRO. Until you give me one reason why my team was relegated (and give me rules backing your stance) I will not waiver from this stance. The thing that irritates me the most was because he had to go behind mine and the entire leagues back to do it sneaky like. Have some god damn common courtesy."


Your team earned the right, not you. You removed the entire team and did not field a roster. The league minimum us a Lvl 26 player....you did not field a roster of Lvl 26+ players.

I also don't really think he went behind your back....he mentioned half a billion times that he had pmed Bort to have EE Org demoted


I was never given a chance to be honest. 3 days is not a chance to field a team. Im sure you can agree with that. And dont say I didnt try. GO back and look at recruiting threads. You will see be posting in there.


You are right, but you also failed the minimum requirements to have a team in EE Pro


If you want, I can give you several examples of teams who have failed these requirements before. They were not relegated. Bort simply gave a 1 time exemption to Randy. Noone can deny that. Shoot first and ask questions later is a piss poor mentality to have.

Then why not bitch at Bort for allowing it as well? I understand you aren't one of the key contributors to all the dumb posting going on around here though. I'm confused why Misc gives two shits to be honest. Randy might have started it though, but he sure didn't have the power to execute it...


we only care enough to call him out for his faggotry and bullshit.
 
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Originally posted by henne
Originally posted by Kutzy

"I wanted to stay because I EARNED my way here. Until Bort changes the rules of the entire game (not just on league) I stil deserve to own a team in EE PRO. Until you give me one reason why my team was relegated (and give me rules backing your stance) I will not waiver from this stance. The thing that irritates me the most was because he had to go behind mine and the entire leagues back to do it sneaky like. Have some god damn common courtesy."


Your team earned the right, not you. You removed the entire team and did not field a roster. The league minimum us a Lvl 26 player....you did not field a roster of Lvl 26+ players.

I also don't really think he went behind your back....he mentioned half a billion times that he had pmed Bort to have EE Org demoted


Let me ask one more thing and this will prove my point. I dont give a shit about your thoughts or your anwser to the question, I only want to know. As an owner of a team in EE PRO, did Randy ask for your input on adding/removing a team in EE PRO?
 
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