Warrior General Games

Originally posted by jpjn94
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=211541&pbp_id=7691707

Which is which in this play? HB is on Combo running and has SA's in Juke and Spin.

I don't see any jukes, just quick cut.

Read the description..."this player will make a quick move in one direction then go the other".

I'm pretty sure this is a juke...notice how he takes a sharper angle to the sideline when he sees the FS ahead, then makes a quick move in the opposite direction...leaving the FS in his dust

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=210674&pbp_id=4199333

Originally posted by jpjn94
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=211541&pbp_id=7691707

Which is which in this play? HB is on Combo running and has SA's in Juke and Spin.

this is just a bunch of cuts until the RB gets to the FS and uses spin.

Originally posted by datsnowman
this is a juke for sure:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=254604&pbp_id=7674638

nope, i'd call that a quick cut to avoid the SS.

Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by jpjn94

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=211541&pbp_id=7691707

Which is which in this play? HB is on Combo running and has SA's in Juke and Spin.

this is just a bunch of cuts until the RB gets to the FS and uses spin.

Originally posted by datsnowman

this is a juke for sure:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=254604&pbp_id=7674638

nope, i'd call that a quick cut to avoid the SS.

let's call it make believe! it can be whatever you want it to be if you look hard enough

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by rmiller517

Originally posted by jpjn94


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=211541&pbp_id=7691707

Which is which in this play? HB is on Combo running and has SA's in Juke and Spin.

this is just a bunch of cuts until the RB gets to the FS and uses spin.

Originally posted by datsnowman


this is a juke for sure:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=254604&pbp_id=7674638

nope, i'd call that a quick cut to avoid the SS.

let's call it make believe! it can be whatever you want it to be if you look hard enough

well, at least this much is true: there have been alot of replays posted, and we're seeing alot more of what we think are quick cuts than jukes or spins. the real spin and juke that i think i did see yielded the long gains but took better players to pull off... so quick cut will come into play more and work more often, but if you've got the skills to pull off juke and spin, then you'll make big gains bigger.

Originally posted by rmiller517

Originally posted by datsnowman

this is a juke for sure:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=254604&pbp_id=7674638

nope, i'd call that a quick cut to avoid the SS.

Nah, that was definitely a Juke. I'm sure Quick Cut also helped, but notice how he goes one way quickly then cuts the other direction? How is that not a juke?

Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Originally posted by rmiller517


Originally posted by datsnowman


this is a juke for sure:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=254604&pbp_id=7674638

nope, i'd call that a quick cut to avoid the SS.

Nah, that was definitely a Juke. I'm sure Quick Cut also helped, but notice how he goes one way quickly then cuts the other direction? How is that not a juke?

<Shrug> ok

Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by Sik Wit It

Originally posted by rmiller517



Originally posted by datsnowman



this is a juke for sure:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=254604&pbp_id=7674638

nope, i'd call that a quick cut to avoid the SS.

Nah, that was definitely a Juke. I'm sure Quick Cut also helped, but notice how he goes one way quickly then cuts the other direction? How is that not a juke?

<Shrug> ok

I am seeing the jukes now.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by rmiller517

Originally posted by Sik Wit It


Originally posted by rmiller517




Originally posted by datsnowman




this is a juke for sure:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=254604&pbp_id=7674638

nope, i'd call that a quick cut to avoid the SS.

Nah, that was definitely a Juke. I'm sure Quick Cut also helped, but notice how he goes one way quickly then cuts the other direction? How is that not a juke?

<Shrug> ok

I am seeing the jukes now.

i always imagined a juke as a more dramatic movement to one side, but i guess i can't argue with the 1 direction and quickly to the other (since that's what the SA's description is.)

Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Originally posted by rmiller517


Originally posted by datsnowman


this is a juke for sure:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=254604&pbp_id=7674638

nope, i'd call that a quick cut to avoid the SS.

Nah, that was definitely a Juke. I'm sure Quick Cut also helped, but notice how he goes one way quickly then cuts the other direction? How is that not a juke?

I don't disagree, but I'm bolding the funny thing you typed. Because it is hilarious. And the italics are for kicks.

Originally posted by LarryB
Originally posted by Sik Wit It

Originally posted by rmiller517



Originally posted by datsnowman



this is a juke for sure:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=254604&pbp_id=7674638

nope, i'd call that a quick cut to avoid the SS.

Nah, that was definitely a Juke. I'm sure Quick Cut also helped, but notice how he goes one way quickly then cuts the other direction? How is that not a juke?

I don't disagree, but I'm bolding the funny thing you typed. Because it is hilarious. And the italics are for kicks.

Good point, but you also missed an important point which I just bolded.

True or False?

1) Quick cut is a change in direction.
2) Head Fake and Juke are not changes in direction.

Originally posted by LarryB
True or False?

1) Quick cut is a change in direction.
2) Head Fake and Juke are not changes in direction.

False

Here's the very first sentence of the Juke SA:

Juke - The player will make a quick move in one direction, and then go the other way.

I believe that's a change in direction twice.

That's why I said Quick Cut helps. QC is always active so I'd imagine it just helps you Juke even more effectively.

If you actually think about it, the probability that Quick-Cut affects Juke in any way is nill. Do you really think they'd program the depth of SA's that far?! LoL No.

Originally posted by VladtheImpaler1
If you actually think about it, the probability that Quick-Cut affects Juke in any way is nill. Do you really think they'd program the depth of SA's that far?! LoL No.


Not sure that I agree with that...it could actually be very much the case that Quick Cut and Juke firing simulataneously would more easily and readily stack effects than not...depending on the model that Bort uses for player movement vs tackling interactions.

Only Bort knows for certain.