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bigtisme
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Originally posted by zz man
Is it me or has the mask mutated into a vaccine ???


We were told in 2020 its better than a vaccine.

This month we've been told you still gotta wear the magic shield even if you get a vaccine.

The science changes very quickly!!! just try to keep up.
Edited by bigtisme on Feb 23, 2021 21:19:29
 
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Originally posted by bigtisme
We were told in 2020 its better than a vaccine.


Okay, I'm gonna push back on that. Who has ever said that a mask is better than a vaccine? Coz I've seen some dumb things from people on both sides of the mask debate, but I've never seen that one.

Originally posted by bigtisme
This month we've been told you still gotta wear the magic shield even if you get a vaccine.


Vaccines aren't instantaneous. It takes a few weeks for your immune system to finish building up antibodies, and in those few weeks, you're still vulnerable to catching the virus. And if you catch it, you can spread it. Hence, you still need to wear a mask.

There are also already variants of COVID-19 that seem to be resistant to the vaccine. If you catch one of those variants, you can spread it. Hence, you still need to wear a mask.

Again -- the point of wearing a mask is so that if you catch COVID-19, you won't be as likely to spread it to others. Refusing to wear a mask is basically telling society, "I don't care if I catch COVID-19, and I really don't care if I spread COVID-19 to you too."

Just wear a mask. The longer people refuse to wear masks, the longer the virus is going to hang around and fester and mutate, and the more people are going to get sick, sometimes seriously, sometimes fatally and the longer you're going to have to put up with people like me bugging you about not wearing a mask. Quit dragging this shit out. Just. Wear. A. Mask.
 
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I am grateful for <a href="https://www.google.com">this information</a> you have shared with us. I think I know better now. I wish you all the best things in life..
Edited by andrealim199320 on Feb 23, 2021 22:08:40
Edited by andrealim199320 on Feb 23, 2021 22:07:32
 
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"I don't care if I catch COVID-19, and I really don't care if I spread COVID-19 to you too DARWINISM - FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE SPECIES. MAYBE EUGENICS NEEDS TO BE REVISITED!!

 
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Originally posted by Novus
Vaccines aren't instantaneous. It takes a few weeks for your immune system to finish building up antibodies, and in those few weeks, you're still vulnerable to catching the virus. And if you catch it, you can spread it. Hence, you still need to wear a mask.


Weeks?? They're talking at least thru the end of 2022 now. If you tell me that we can stop wearing masks a month after the vaccine is publicly available I'd at least listen, but literally no one is talking like that.

Originally posted by Novus
Quit dragging this shit out. Just. Wear. A. Mask.


I wear one every day....I have for nearly a year. So has 90+% of the country. But the people dragging this out aren't the ones against mask mandates lol.

Originally posted by Novus
Okay, I'm gonna push back on that. Who has ever said that a mask is better than a vaccine? Coz I've seen some dumb things from people on both sides of the mask debate, but I've never seen that one.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-face-mask-protection-vaccine-cdc-director/

idk this was the first one that popped up on google. I'm sure you can find more than one person who said it. This was said all last fall...
Edited by bigtisme on Feb 24, 2021 07:44:16
 
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and fwiw I dont care about mask laws... I care about vaccine passports
 
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Covid was found 3 out of 6 times in our Lake Trout. They Seem to be ok.
 
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I don't care if you wear or don't wear a mask. I'm not going to get on my high horse and talk shit about either side. Do what you want and I'll do what I want.
 
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Originally posted by bigtisme
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-face-mask-protection-vaccine-cdc-director/

idk this was the first one that popped up on google. I'm sure you can find more than one person who said it. This was said all last fall...


As you mentioned, that was from last fall, September 2020 to be specific. The quote was from the CDC director at the time: "I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine, because it may be 70%. And if I don't get an immune response, the vaccine is not going to protect me. This face mask will."

Notice the key words there: "might" and "if." I don't think you're accurately portraying his quote. He was talking about masks in comparison to a then-hypothetical vaccine that might only be 70% effective. The actual vaccines that are available now are much more effective than that against the main strains of COVID-19, though the jury is still out on their effectiveness against the newer mutated strains.

Originally posted by bigtisme
Weeks?? They're talking at least thru the end of 2022 now. If you tell me that we can stop wearing masks a month after the vaccine is publicly available I'd at least listen, but literally no one is talking like that.


You cut off the part where I mentioned the COVID-19 variants that might be resistant to the vaccine. If one of those variants becomes the dominant strain and it turns out to be resistant to the vaccine, then yes, masks will still be necessary despite the vaccine.

Originally posted by bigtisme
I wear one every day....I have for nearly a year. So has 90+% of the country. But the people dragging this out aren't the ones against mask mandates lol.


90+% of the country is not wearing a mask. Where I live, there are several small cities clustered together, and one of those cities has mandated mask-wearing in public enclosed spaces, though they really don't do anything to enforce it. In that city, about 70% of people wear masks in stores and other similar places. In the other cities nearby where mask use is not mandated, it's more like 50%, and my wife recently walked into and then out of a grocery story where only about 30% of the customers were wearing masks. At my day job -- where we just had an employee catch COVID-19 and nearly passed it on to me before he spent three weeks sick at home, by the way -- maybe 20% of the employees wear masks, much to my frustration. At my night job, mask usage is closer to 80% among the employees, but maybe 20% among the customers.

So, yeah, no, it's not 90% of the country wearing a mask. If it was, the death toll would be a lot lower right now.

That said, I'm very glad to hear you wear a mask, bigtisme. And I appreciate your skeptic's eye on this issue, because as I said before, I've seen a lot of dumb things said by people on both sides of this issue. Just remember to be consistent in your skepticism -- if you're only aiming it at one side of a debate, that's not actually skepticism.
 
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Originally posted by Sithas~Cult~
Covid was found 3 out of 6 times in our Lake Trout. They Seem to be ok.


Good to hear.

However, I'm pretty sure you're not a lake trout, or else you would've shorted out your keyboard while typing that. Since you're not a lake trout, you're vulnerable to COVID-19 -- as are the people around you who are also, alas, not lake trout. Protect them, and protect yourself. Wear a mask.
 
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Originally posted by bigtrunk69
I don't care if you wear or don't wear a mask. I'm not going to get on my high horse and talk shit about either side. Do what you want and I'll do what I want.


How high is you high horse right now?
 
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! Originally posted by Sithas~Cult~
How high is you high horse right now?

Not as high as yours but he is trying!
 
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Originally posted by bigtrunk69
I don't care if you wear or don't wear a mask. I'm not going to get on my high horse and talk shit about either side. Do what you want and I'll do what I want.


 
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