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Originally posted by Pena_FIN
What he means is that you shouldn't go chasing broken tackles "half-assed". 80/80 STR/CAR isn't going to cut it, even with +21% BT gear. And you don't need that much STR/CAR to combat KL drops.

With your projected build, I'd go with Juke and fake% gear (double if possible). All the top tree SA are great for a scat back, (except Spin because you aren't going to break many tackles with or without it). IMO, Head Fake is also optional, definitely sacrifice that for more Juke.

You don't need any of the power back SA's (all though Cover up is nice, but it isn't a must have SA).

That's what I think as well, but wasn't sure if the 'threw out' bit wasn't as much got rid of but put out there style. I'd do the start of this build different next time and could get 90 carrying with 80 strength (+ the rest) if I was to go this path again. I'm pretty sure of how I'm going to build this player and am pretty happy with it even though there is room for improvement. It is my first sHB, and it's been over 20 seasons since I started building a HB. It's been fun so far!

Now my WR is for me an even more exciting prospect considering how it's projected end build is going to be.

Sorry yes I meant put out there bad choice of words on my part.

I dont necessarily think 80 strength/carrying cant break tackles, especially if he can catch passes. The issue I had is that if you get 155 speed, 90 agility, 90 catching, 60+ stamina, capped vision/confidence, and any kind of meaningful fake and catch SAs + AEQ, you wont have room in the build for 80 strength/carrying + PT + BT% on a receiving HB. It just isnt possible.

155 speed, 90 agility, and 90 catching + 2 CB% is a dot begging for fake skills. I would try to maximize that score rather than try and split it between two things.

I have a rHB I recently retired that only had 73 strength and broke 2-3 tackles a game with no rushes http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4571981 I sold the custom before I retired but it was +6 speed and +BT%

Among those BTs is this play http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2808532&pbp_id=1784531 which broke free a 43 yd TD in a 17-14 Casual Pro CC win, and this one to start the scoring in the LC http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2798920&pbp_id=1867297.

The thing is even though he only has 73 strength I built him to break tackles. He's got 90 carrying and 18% BT with 67 catching. And he's an elusive arch rather than receiving. He wasn't really meant to run deep or catch in traffic, just catch screens and passes less than 10 yards and try to make a play. That is how I think BT receiving HBs have to be used. You dont need 90 catching or 2 pieces of CB for that, not that either of those things are bad in general.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
I have a rHB I recently retired that only had 73 strength and broke 2-3 tackles a game with no rushes http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4571981 I sold the custom before I retired but it was +6 speed and +BT%

Among those BTs is this play http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2808532&pbp_id=1784531 which broke free a 43 yd TD in a 17-14 Casual Pro CC win, and this one to start the scoring in the LC http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2798920&pbp_id=1867297.

The thing is even though he only has 73 strength I built him to break tackles. He's got 90 carrying and 18% BT with 67 catching. And he's an elusive arch rather than receiving. He wasn't really meant to run deep or catch in traffic, just catch screens and passes less than 10 yards and try to make a play. That is how I think BT receiving HBs have to be used. You dont need 90 catching or 2 pieces of CB for that, not that either of those things are bad in general.

I can just about hit all of your previous post, but I can also turn him into a fake scat (though with lower SA's due to the conversion). In fact if I started the build slightly differently, I can hit 90 carrying while hitting ~80 strength wiht everything else. The 90 catch is just how training and skill point investment will take it while shopping gave me those two pieces plus a +3 speed. It would have been ace if one of those CB pieces had of been one of FC or BT but thems the breaks.

Well I find that hard to believe but if you think you can then go for it and I would like to see how it turns out. Given he's on a team in the same league as one I own I will probably find out lol.

Just make sure you go 11 Juke first, and I would probably take Spin and QC before Power Through.

Another thing to keep in mind is that if you choose to go for BTs it is going to eat up at least 24 VPs as well. I like to max both Slippery and YAC Attack so it is 30 for me.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Another thing to keep in mind is that if you choose to go for BTs it is going to eat up at least 24 VPs as well. I like to max both Slippery and YAC Attack so it is 30 for me.

Yes, this is a good point. VA's won't be a typical combo. Why 30 if it pushes over the 75% mark (if that is what the 24 number is)?.

Bort has explicitly said in a Q&A that there are times when both fire when maxed. He didn't elaborate on when that was and it could be pretty rare, but I have been taking both to 15 with no regrets for a few years now.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Bort has explicitly said in a Q&A that there are times when both fire when maxed. He didn't elaborate on when that was and it could be pretty rare, but I have been taking both to 15 with no regrets for a few years now.

i remember that also. it had something to do with the fact that YAC attack was tacked on after the total BT roll when after a catch


http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5029135&page=5#46752639

so if you have a 1-25 chance on a d100 roll (25%) shot at breaking a tackle, Slippery would get that to a 30%. then YAC attack would get that to 52.5%

yay for finding stuff 2 hours later, with only minimal porn surfing in between

A+ thread--would read again!

Originally posted by TJ Spikes
i remember that also. it had something to do with the fact that YAC attack was tacked on after the total BT roll when after a catch


http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5029135&page=5#46752639

so if you have a 1-25 chance on a d100 roll (25%) shot at breaking a tackle, Slippery would get that to a 30%. then YAC attack would get that to 52.5%

yay for finding stuff 2 hours later, with only minimal porn surfing in between

Nice find! I think that is actually a more comprehensive quote than the one I was talking about

The question above that to Catch...Lol.

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