Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Garidan
Originally posted by t-money


Yes, the question you need to ask yourself is "What's the minimum amount of SPs necessary to purchase natural 100 STR over the lifetime of my build?"


It's a moot point, since it's virtually impossible to reach a natural 100 STR.
As a DT, let's say you can hit 68 by level 10, which is aggressive. Then by level 16, you can hit the 6/1 cap at 78, and assuming you stop there, you'll hit 82 by 22, and at most 95 by 61.
Therefore, to hit 100 natural STR, you're talking about spending every single point you get until level 22, when automatic gains decrease. And that's the minimum; if you delay spending points into strength, it just ends up costing even more.

Best to decide how much strength you're comfortable having early, and spend it right away. Spending past the 4/1 mark seems wasteful to me.

That's very helpful. Thanks.

Very nice build you have going so far on Hampton.

I'm also going for a high str/agility build on my new DT.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=621751

I was wondering what your base strength stat was at without any equipment on it. Do you have all custom on it too?

Garidan or anyone else, can you help me out and confirm what the various soft caps are?

48: 2 for 1
60: 3 for 1
68: 4 for 1
??: 5 for 1
78: 6 for 1

Originally posted by D-WareMVP
Very nice build you have going so far on Hampton.

I'm also going for a high str/agility build on my new DT.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=621751

I was wondering what your base strength stat was at without any equipment on it. Do you have all custom on it too?

All of my equipment is in strength including custom equipment. So my base strength is 59.69

Originally posted by JBrown5390
Originally posted by D-WareMVP

Very nice build you have going so far on Hampton.

I'm also going for a high str/agility build on my new DT.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=621751

I was wondering what your base strength stat was at without any equipment on it. Do you have all custom on it too?

All of my equipment is in strength including custom equipment. So my base strength is 59.69



Alright cool thanks.

Originally posted by Garidan
Originally posted by t-money


Yes, the question you need to ask yourself is "What's the minimum amount of SPs necessary to purchase natural 100 STR over the lifetime of my build?"


It's a moot point, since it's virtually impossible to reach a natural 100 STR.
As a DT, let's say you can hit 68 by level 10, which is aggressive. Then by level 16, you can hit the 6/1 cap at 78, and assuming you stop there, you'll hit 82 by 22, and at most 95 by 61.
Therefore, to hit 100 natural STR, you're talking about spending every single point you get until level 22, when automatic gains decrease. And that's the minimum; if you delay spending points into strength, it just ends up costing even more.

Best to decide how much strength you're comfortable having early, and spend it right away. Spending past the 4/1 mark seems wasteful to me.

I agree thats its improbable, but its not impossible. My lvl 8 DT has 68.69 STR and it would be 71.69 with equipment. Im going to put 2 more into it, until i get t the 60 cap, and leave it alone. I figure by when im 24 it'll be alil over 90. Im fine with that, but its possible to get those last 10 points.

Originally posted by phat_lyk_dat
Originally posted by Garidan

Originally posted by t-money



Yes, the question you need to ask yourself is "What's the minimum amount of SPs necessary to purchase natural 100 STR over the lifetime of my build?"


It's a moot point, since it's virtually impossible to reach a natural 100 STR.
As a DT, let's say you can hit 68 by level 10, which is aggressive. Then by level 16, you can hit the 6/1 cap at 78, and assuming you stop there, you'll hit 82 by 22, and at most 95 by 61.
Therefore, to hit 100 natural STR, you're talking about spending every single point you get until level 22, when automatic gains decrease. And that's the minimum; if you delay spending points into strength, it just ends up costing even more.

Best to decide how much strength you're comfortable having early, and spend it right away. Spending past the 4/1 mark seems wasteful to me.

I agree thats its improbable, but its not impossible. My lvl 8 DT has 68.69 STR and it would be 71.69 with equipment. Im going to put 2 more into it, until i get t the 60 cap, and leave it alone. I figure by when im 24 it'll be alil over 90. Im fine with that, but its possible to get those last 10 points.

I figure if I up strength by 1 every level, he will be close to if not at 100 by level 24 if I put the level 16 and 24 equipment upgrades in strength.

I ran some numbers on about what Casey's strength would be at level 24 with upping it once a level and putting all equipment upgrades in strength andI also factored in automated SP's and the decrease in automated SP's at level 22ish ( not sure when it happens but here is what I got.



Casey Hampton

Currently Level 14:Base strength 59.69
Level 15: 61.36---------------------------3 SP's
Level 16: 63.03 +4 Equipment
Level 17: 64.70
Level 18: 66.37
Level 19: 68.04---------------------------4 SP's
Level 20: 69.71
Level 21: 71.38
Level 22: 73.05---------------------------5 SP's
Level 23: 74.72
Level 24: 76.39 +4 Equipment
+22.00 (Equipment Upgrades)

=98.39 Strength by Level 24. Seems like getting 100 strength wouldnt be too hard after all although It would take all 5 SP's from a level up to increase strength by 1 for 2 levels. But 100 is absolutely not out of the question.

The real question is once an attribute hits 100, are the automated SP's that went into that attribute given to other atts that are not at 100? I would love to know that answer.

didn't realize that auto pts stop once a skill hits 100. wouldn't that be for a base of 100, not equip-assisted though?

Originally posted by smarlow
didn't realize that auto pts stop once a skill hits 100. wouldn't that be for a base of 100, not equip-assisted though?


I have no idea if they stop when they hit 100, right now the general consensus is that they will keep adding points to an attribute if its at 100 with equipment but if its a base 100 the pointsa will stop going into that that. I want to know if when the points stop adding to a base 100 stat if they automatically go into other stats or if you lose those points. ???? Nobody seems to know yet.

But your base stat will not be 100. You will only be getting to 100 by way of equipment. So..don't worry about it?

If there is a skill cap at 100, it's a natural one, so equipment will push it above that.

Originally posted by Kayoh
If there is a skill cap at 100, it's a natural one, so equipment will push it above that.

Thats what Im thinking but like thenm we have the same problem with SA's. You can get SA's to 11 but the sim only recognizes anything SA above 10 as 10. So if you have strength at 100 (with equipment) and you level up and the automated SP's DO add onto speed pushing it above 100. Would the sim recognze it as 100.xx (With the automated SP's) or just 100.00?

I find myself puzzled that with only 24 stamina and 16 vision, he's as productive as his numbers show.

I have the same Lv DT right now. I think the difference between my str and yours is the difference in vision and stamina. Maybe less even. Good build.