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Originally posted by Corndog
Except nobody would be making rookie teams, they'd all just make pro players instead.


not if you dont let them instant build hb, qb and whatever other positions are in low demand. you keep ignoring that key feature of the whole idea. if you want a low demand player, you build it from scratch, and that means surrounding those players with the rest of the team. look at how many people build a hb and then olinemen just to make sure that they have blockers for their key player. i built a returner AND 3 blockers for him. you can also look at the cost involved. do you really want to pay full price for a few seasons? plenty of us still enjoy the lower levels. and this thread is exactly why. the wl'ers think that they are the only ones that play, and they arent.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Do you have any idea how a business works?

Just because we have been around for an arbitrary length of time doesn't mean we have money multiplied by that arbitrary length of time.

You also realize that personal income is different than business money? The fact that I live minimally and take a thousand dollar vacation a couple times a year has nothing to do with WG's advertising budget.


Answers like these is why I will choose to stay silent again....how a business works you say....GLB has shown how not to conduct business....if they had such a great business model we wouldn't be at this point
 
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Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
because there are no FAs any more. whats so hard to figure out that if someone has 50 players but cant find any safeties that many would build an instant safety over using a cpu? i play at those levels and know many people that would go that route to fill a team.


You can fill that spot with a cpu player....how about this... you request that player/archetype for the position of need and for a season loan (price TBD) continue its build. Season ends, player reverts back to being a cpu once again
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Lol ya I'm sure loads of people are going to be building level 32 players because man the sim is fun at that level. Dear lord your delusions crack me up.


what part are you too stupid to understand? lots of people enjoy the lower levels. and how many times to i have to say its needed to build REPLACEMENT players. no one expects someone to one day just create a bunch of players for no reason. as usual, you are stuck on 1 stupid concept and ignoring what is being said. seriously, you are a fucking idiot.
 
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Originally posted by Team Nucleus
Answers like these is why I will choose to stay silent again....how a business works you say....GLB has shown how not to conduct business....if they had such a great business model we wouldn't be at this point


If we had an awful business model we wouldn't be at this point either.
 
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Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
not if you dont let them instant build hb, qb and whatever other positions are in low demand. you keep ignoring that key feature of the whole idea. if you want a low demand player, you build it from scratch, and that means surrounding those players with the rest of the team. look at how many people build a hb and then olinemen just to make sure that they have blockers for their key player. i built a returner AND 3 blockers for him. you can also look at the cost involved. do you really want to pay full price for a few seasons? plenty of us still enjoy the lower levels. and this thread is exactly why. the wl'ers think that they are the only ones that play, and they arent.


This has nothing to do with wl. People want fully capable players. If people truly loved the mid levels we wouldn't be having this conversation.
 
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Originally posted by Gustoon
You can fill that spot with a cpu player....how about this... you request that player/archetype for the position of need and for a season loan (price TBD) continue its build. Season ends, player reverts back to being a cpu once again


you saw 1st hand how bad cpu players are this season. glb has to find a way to let people build what they need, even if its not as good as 1 built from day 1. by the time we found players from teams that folded, it killed our chem.
 
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Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
what part are you too stupid to understand? lots of people enjoy the lower levels. and how many times to i have to say its needed to build REPLACEMENT players. no one expects someone to one day just create a bunch of players for no reason. as usual, you are stuck on 1 stupid concept and ignoring what is being said. seriously, you are a fucking idiot.


Ya the abundance of leagues shows it. Thanks for playing.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
If we had an awful business model we wouldn't be at this point either.


You win...yup it's in excellent condition
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
This has nothing to do with wl. People want fully capable players. If people truly loved the mid levels we wouldn't be having this conversation.


and yet the games FORCES everyone to go thru those levels. which means if a planned team loses players, they are screwed. and yes people enjoy playing at all levels. i personally dont enjoy the lower levels any more, but plenty of bad dot builders do while they learn how to build dots. glbers have this annoying tendency to just people that they suck when they 1st start building dots. as if we all built perfect dots the 1st time.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Ya the abundance of leagues shows it. Thanks for playing.


and why is that? because everyone is folding their teams once they lose players they cant replace. no reason to keep going once you lose a few good linemen or safeties because there are none waiting once you get higher up. couple of seasons ago, a team lost too many players so folded. as far as i know, my 1 player was the only one to hit the market. when team after team does this, how does your tiny mind think the upper levels will be sustained. just 2 seasons ago, there were 4 regional natl leagues. this season 3, and 1 of them could have been folded. at some point, to sustain 4 pro and a world leagues, there has to be lower level players.

and the answer is NOT to let them build instant 79s.
 
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Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
and yet the games FORCES everyone to go thru those levels. which means if a planned team loses players, they are screwed. and yes people enjoy playing at all levels. i personally dont enjoy the lower levels any more, but plenty of bad dot builders do while they learn how to build dots. glbers have this annoying tendency to just people that they suck when they 1st start building dots. as if we all built perfect dots the 1st time.


If given the choice between playing level 32 and 79, do you really believe people wouldn't choose 79?

Lower levels under you idea would be rocking with teams farming low demand players and cpu's.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
If given the choice between playing level 32 and 79, do you really believe people wouldn't choose 79?

Lower levels under you idea would be rocking with teams farming low demand players and cpu's.


why cant you get the instant 79 out of your head? in NO NO NO NO way am i saying allow instant 79s. how many times do i have to say it before it sinks in? we all agree that instant 79 would kill all lower levels. not that i think that would be bad, but i think it would drive more people away because so many have no idea how to build a good level 79. we actually agree for once on something. and you are too stupid to even get that.
 
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Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
and why is that? because everyone is folding their teams once they lose players they cant replace. no reason to keep going once you lose a few good linemen or safeties because there are none waiting once you get higher up. couple of seasons ago, a team lost too many players so folded. as far as i know, my 1 player was the only one to hit the market. when team after team does this, how does your tiny mind think the upper levels will be sustained. just 2 seasons ago, there were 4 regional natl leagues. this season 3, and 1 of them could have been folded. at some point, to sustain 4 pro and a world leagues, there has to be lower level players.

and the answer is NOT to let them build instant 79s.


If that was correct there would be more rookie teams right now. You can keep insulting me with all the pot shots you want but it isn't making any headway for your point. The mid level game isn't interesting. The majority wish they could skip it. And I don't think the upper levels keep up under the current stagnancy at all.
 
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Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
why cant you get the instant 79 out of your head? in NO NO NO NO way am i saying allow instant 79s. how many times do i have to say it before it sinks in? we all agree that instant 79 would kill all lower levels. not that i think that would be bad, but i think it would drive more people away because so many have no idea how to build a good level 79. we actually agree for once on something. and you are too stupid to even get that.


People will build the highest level they can. It isn't rocket science.
 
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