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Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Yes, the intention of your obvious statement that you should build a dot in a manner that helps his performance is true. Unfortunately SA AEQ accomplishes the opposite of that. Planning to take SA AEQ for any position except K/P and possibly OL/possession WR is a bad idea and should only be done in desperation.

As illustrated in your post one of the common misconceptions about this is that it does not mean neglecting any SAs themselves. You take the points out of the attributes because the 20-30 SPs you save cannot begin to cover a 15% or extra 7% to one of your dot's vital duties. It is not a matter of whether the SA is necessary so much as cost efficiency for performance.

Every position except the ones I mentioned have enough important % pieces it is silly to take a SA unless you planned your build poorly.


The problem with this argument is that you're assuming that the pieces of AEQ a dot ends up with are predetermined at the start of a build when the primary attributes for a lot of those "duties" are being chosen. The AEQ that a dot ends up with is at the mercy of the shopping gods, and choosing an SA piece over continuing to shop for a % piece can be a better choice depending on what the shop offers. Also, by the time that AEQ is chosen, reducing the amount of SPs spent into attributes in order to get higher SAs might not be an option. Having a hard and fast rule like that and not allowing any flexibility is a good way to build a bad dot.
Edited by Longhornfan1024 on Jul 15, 2013 13:13:46
 
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I can show you some very good WRs that used more than one piece of AEQ on SAs.
 
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SAs are bad mmmkay
 
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only YOU can prevent SAs
 
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it's wasn't the one-armed man, it was a horde of knife-wielding SAs
 
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Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Yes, the intention of your obvious statement that you should build a dot in a manner that helps his performance is true. Unfortunately SA AEQ accomplishes the opposite of that. Planning to take SA AEQ for any position except K/P and possibly OL/possession WR is a bad idea and should only be done in desperation.

As illustrated in your post one of the common misconceptions about this is that it does not mean neglecting any SAs themselves. You take the points out of the attributes because the 20-30 SPs you save cannot begin to cover a 15% or extra 7% to one of your dot's vital duties. It is not a matter of whether the SA is necessary so much as cost efficiency for performance.

Every position except the ones I mentioned have enough important % pieces it is silly to take a SA unless you planned your build poorly.


well lets see blocking FB, blocking TE, speedster WR/TE

and im just going to assume we arent talking about 4 AEQ by the use of possibly

also it could very well depend on the use of CEQ difference between 12% and 6 SA or 15% and 4 SA vs cost effectiveness

Edited by Timetoshine-Metta on Jul 15, 2013 15:02:37
 
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Originally posted by Dustin.
So based on this here jd, have you ever tried the high speed/low agility with Quick Cut to see the affect it can have at maintaining your speed while running something like a Flag or Post route (or anything with more than the approximate 20 degrees you mentioned?)


If by low agility you mean 75-77 range than yes. Post and Flag routes work just fine. You don't even need super high quick cut at all.
Edited by bhall43 on Jul 15, 2013 16:51:55
 
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If by low agility you mean 75-77 range than yes. Post and Flag routes work just fine. You don't even need super high quick cut at all.


Good to know, thanks!
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
If by low agility you mean 75-77 range than yes. Post and Flag routes work just fine. You don't even need super high quick cut at all.


So, on a straight line burner, would you say that 75-77 agility would be enough?
 
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Originally posted by tvhs96
So, on a straight line burner, would you say that 75-77 agility would be enough?


if you have 165+ speed, sure. Otherwise I don't know why your agility is so low.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
if you have 165+ speed, sure. Otherwise I don't know why your agility is so low.


Gotcha. Yeah, I'll be above 165 ... no worries on that.
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2565319&playoffs=0 174 spd 75 agi, feel free to watch some replays and learn from it. 9 quick cut definitely helps him I think.
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2565319&playoffs=0 174 spd 75 agi, feel free to watch some replays and learn from it. 9 quick cut definitely helps him I think.


They're talking about a WR build I believe
Edited by dahman32 on Jul 16, 2013 18:14:16
 
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Originally posted by dahman32
They're talking about a WR build I believe


cutz r cutz yo.
 
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