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Originally posted by SciFi not Syfy
How did they do for the same pass with the same receivers on the field? I wonder if some plays were affected and others were not. I could see screens not being affected by confidence, but some of the more heavily covered routes should benefit from more than less.

I didn't run any screens. That would have been useless to the test. Both QB's generally scorched the defense. But there wasn't anything from a naked eye perspective that you could tell the difference between the 2 quarterbacks. Bad passes, hurries, completions, yards, progression speed, the WR's they hit....all pretty much identical like it was the same exact quarterback playing each game.

QBs have to be humble, they cant have too much confidence makes sense

Originally posted by bhall43
I brought this up when those tests were ran in a huge thread where we were talking about the state of confidence for a QB. I actually brought it up multiple times. If this is the first time you have heard it I guess you weren't paying that much attention at that point.


Yeah I probably wasn't. Is there somewhere that is specifically dedicated to discussing the test server tests?

And, if they scorched the defense then wouldn't confidence be much less of an issue than if they were struggling and threw some interceptions?

I saw a replay on QB confidence but that was back before Bort made some changes. Are you referring to a later test?

Originally posted by Dub J
Need to know more than their confidence and that they played against the same team.



QB I am pretty certain was based off of Homage's QB at that point. At least a relatively close version of that.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2203826

Take him with 60 confidence and then with 140.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Yeah I probably wasn't. Is there somewhere that is specifically dedicated to discussing the test server tests?

It might have been in one of those game discussion threads. But I said it in multiple places. Most notably in some GLB main thread that was a long thread about confidence and bad throws/hurries.

So it was the test from over a year ago?


What I'm asking is was there another QB confidence test scrim ran since the one ran last summer? Bort changed confidence to make it more powerful about 4 or 5 months after that test was ran. Wasn't sure if someone had revisited it on the test server after the buff.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Yeah I probably wasn't. Is there somewhere that is specifically dedicated to discussing the test server tests?

And, if they scorched the defense then wouldn't confidence be much less of an issue than if they were struggling and threw some interceptions?

There were a couple outlier games where both QB's would have a couple INT's and what not. But that happened to both of them. I don't believe confidence to really effect those events as much as the event itself effecting everything beyond that though.

Originally posted by Dub J
So it was the test from over a year ago?



Sim hasn't really changed much since those tests. Sim still revolves around all the same concepts.

Originally posted by bhall43
Sim hasn't really changed much since those tests. Sim still revolves around all the same concepts.

Actually, Bort was supposed to beef up confidence to ward off bad passes. This happened at least a few months after that test.

Originally posted by Dub J
Actually, Bort was supposed to beef up confidence to ward off bad passes. This happened at least a few months after that test.



hes done that like 12 times

I was just wondering if someone had tested it.

Originally posted by bhall43
I brought this up when those tests were ran in a huge thread where we were talking about the state of confidence for a QB. I actually brought it up multiple times. If this is the first time you have heard it I guess you weren't paying that much attention at that point.


Well I hope these could at least post at test server forum.

Originally posted by Dub J
Actually, Bort was supposed to beef up confidence to ward off bad passes. This happened at least a few months after that test.



He did make a change to the DT zone, shrunk it down so they don't impact the QB so much.

Originally posted by bhall43
I didn't run any screens. That would have been useless to the test. Both QB's generally scorched the defense. But there wasn't anything from a naked eye perspective that you could tell the difference between the 2 quarterbacks. Bad passes, hurries, completions, yards, progression speed, the WR's they hit....all pretty much identical like it was the same exact quarterback playing each game.

But how did their pass quality differ? Of course there' s no way for anyone to know, not even Bort unless he created some script to show it play by play. And there are a lot of factors that effect pass quality. But since you say the QBs scorched the D, there really isn't any reason to believe much went on that would impact pass quality. Run another test, but with Super DEs & DTs that will scare the crap out of a QB and see what happens.