No, the problem is you can't comprehend that LBs are not doing much of shit in those same games where QBs are picking up big numbers.
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The LBs aren't being blitzed. They would rack up big #'s if the D.C. wanted them to against a scrub team. I would bet that most D.C.'s with minimal effort could get their blitzing LB (assuming they even have one on the roster) 10 sacks in a game against a scrub team if they blitzed them 30 times.
Sorry I disagree, but I do appreciate you being more/less civil.
Sorry I disagree, but I do appreciate you being more/less civil.
we dont care about shitty teams. so far your only point is that one LB in a CPU filled league, got a bunch of sacks. i dont want to play in shitty leagues but i want to enjoy watching my dot play. if QBs can pass for 5k+ yards with ease and HBs put up 3000 yards a season, LBs should be able to rack up sacks.
look at this HB http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4318317&playoffs=0, he's been in elite every single season. Offense is ridiculously over powered. if i can have a dot average 8.3 yards per carry and then have my LBs get very little sacks with some of the best DCs in the game, something is wrong.
before you say the build, he is now in WL with another owner. Blitzing LBs are dead and thats just plain stupid.
look at this HB http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4318317&playoffs=0, he's been in elite every single season. Offense is ridiculously over powered. if i can have a dot average 8.3 yards per carry and then have my LBs get very little sacks with some of the best DCs in the game, something is wrong.
before you say the build, he is now in WL with another owner. Blitzing LBs are dead and thats just plain stupid.
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Originally posted by threadkiller
Dub, Reg Pro #2 had a DE with 197 sacks...........
Originally posted by Dub J
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Dub, Reg Pro #2 had a DE with 197 sacks...........
Originally posted by Dub J
Forum > Suggestions > make blitzing LBs useful again
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
we dont care about shitty teams. so far your only point is that one LB in a CPU filled league, got a bunch of sacks. i dont want to play in shitty leagues but i want to enjoy watching my dot play. if QBs can pass for 5k+ yards with ease and HBs put up 3000 yards a season, LBs should be able to rack up sacks.
Blitzing LBs are dead and thats just plain stupid.
agreed.
we dont care about shitty teams. so far your only point is that one LB in a CPU filled league, got a bunch of sacks. i dont want to play in shitty leagues but i want to enjoy watching my dot play. if QBs can pass for 5k+ yards with ease and HBs put up 3000 yards a season, LBs should be able to rack up sacks.
Blitzing LBs are dead and thats just plain stupid.
agreed.
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Originally posted by threadkiller
Is your reading comprehension any better then your quoting ability?
Are you suggesting that strength or agility dominant DE builds are producing sack numbers on par with speed based DE builds in the WL?
Since u can't even read what was said ill help u out. Dub said STR ends are putting up decent stats, this is in fact true. U decided to turn his post into "STR ends are dominating WL in sacks???". Of coarse they arent gonna have as many sacks as speed ends but that doesnt mean they are doing shit atm. STR ends put up tons of hurrys, respectable sacks and good FF numbers. No one said STR ends are 'on par' with SPD ends as u decided to put it, but keep misunderstanding what was actually stated, u will make yourself look like an even bigger asshat.
Is your reading comprehension any better then your quoting ability?
Are you suggesting that strength or agility dominant DE builds are producing sack numbers on par with speed based DE builds in the WL?
Since u can't even read what was said ill help u out. Dub said STR ends are putting up decent stats, this is in fact true. U decided to turn his post into "STR ends are dominating WL in sacks???". Of coarse they arent gonna have as many sacks as speed ends but that doesnt mean they are doing shit atm. STR ends put up tons of hurrys, respectable sacks and good FF numbers. No one said STR ends are 'on par' with SPD ends as u decided to put it, but keep misunderstanding what was actually stated, u will make yourself look like an even bigger asshat.
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
we dont care about shitty teams. so far your only point is that one LB in a CPU filled league, got a bunch of sacks. i dont want to play in shitty leagues but i want to enjoy watching my dot play. if QBs can pass for 5k+ yards with ease and HBs put up 3000 yards a season, LBs should be able to rack up sacks.
look at this HB http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4318317&playoffs=0, he's been in elite every single season. Offense is ridiculously over powered. if i can have a dot average 8.3 yards per carry and then have my LBs get very little sacks with some of the best DCs in the game, something is wrong.
before you say the build, he is now in WL with another owner. Blitzing LBs are dead and thats just plain stupid.

Oh the irony. Check the other blitzing lb on Burnside. I would consider your blitzing LB build to be very average.
BTW: Elite or not, your HB's stats are greatly affected in every one of his seasons by a handful of blow out games where he averaged big per carry yards and had a ridiculous number of touchdowns for a single game. In the games where his team was close with their opponent, his per carry average and number of touchdowns looked pretty realistic (some good games, some where he was shut down).
we dont care about shitty teams. so far your only point is that one LB in a CPU filled league, got a bunch of sacks. i dont want to play in shitty leagues but i want to enjoy watching my dot play. if QBs can pass for 5k+ yards with ease and HBs put up 3000 yards a season, LBs should be able to rack up sacks.
look at this HB http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4318317&playoffs=0, he's been in elite every single season. Offense is ridiculously over powered. if i can have a dot average 8.3 yards per carry and then have my LBs get very little sacks with some of the best DCs in the game, something is wrong.
before you say the build, he is now in WL with another owner. Blitzing LBs are dead and thats just plain stupid.

Oh the irony. Check the other blitzing lb on Burnside. I would consider your blitzing LB build to be very average.
BTW: Elite or not, your HB's stats are greatly affected in every one of his seasons by a handful of blow out games where he averaged big per carry yards and had a ridiculous number of touchdowns for a single game. In the games where his team was close with their opponent, his per carry average and number of touchdowns looked pretty realistic (some good games, some where he was shut down).
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Originally posted by Sellars
Since u can't even read what was said ill help u out. Dub said STR ends are putting up decent stats, this is in fact true. U decided to turn his post into "STR ends are dominating WL in sacks???". Of coarse they arent gonna have as many sacks as speed ends but that doesnt mean they are doing shit atm. STR ends put up tons of hurrys, respectable sacks and good FF numbers. No one said STR ends are 'on par' with SPD ends as u decided to put it, but keep misunderstanding what was actually stated, u will make yourself look like an even bigger asshat.
STR ends are sacking the QB a miniscule % of their rushes compared to blitzing LBs in WL. I'm not sure why you consider 5-10 sacks respectable for a position that rushes the QB on (most) every pass attempt he is on the field, and 10-15 "useless" for a position that specializes and rushes far fewer plays per game? When you call a blitz for your blitzing LB (as a D.C.) what is a reasonable % of the time you expect that LB to sack the QB?
Originally posted by Sellars
STR/AGL ends are not getting sacks? This is news to the WL
If this was not meant to be a smart ass remark worthy of my smart ass reply I do apologize.
Since u can't even read what was said ill help u out. Dub said STR ends are putting up decent stats, this is in fact true. U decided to turn his post into "STR ends are dominating WL in sacks???". Of coarse they arent gonna have as many sacks as speed ends but that doesnt mean they are doing shit atm. STR ends put up tons of hurrys, respectable sacks and good FF numbers. No one said STR ends are 'on par' with SPD ends as u decided to put it, but keep misunderstanding what was actually stated, u will make yourself look like an even bigger asshat.
STR ends are sacking the QB a miniscule % of their rushes compared to blitzing LBs in WL. I'm not sure why you consider 5-10 sacks respectable for a position that rushes the QB on (most) every pass attempt he is on the field, and 10-15 "useless" for a position that specializes and rushes far fewer plays per game? When you call a blitz for your blitzing LB (as a D.C.) what is a reasonable % of the time you expect that LB to sack the QB?
Originally posted by Sellars
STR/AGL ends are not getting sacks? This is news to the WL
If this was not meant to be a smart ass remark worthy of my smart ass reply I do apologize.
Edited by threadkiller on Jul 13, 2013 14:30:10
Win by 6- 7.9 average http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2358293
huge loss- 8.7 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2389050
win by 21- 6.9 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2315703
huge loss- 6 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2315720
win by 12- 5.1 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2315640
win by 20- 5.3 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2315700
win by 13- 8.9 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2315694
lost by 3- 5.6 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2344572
lost by 6- 6 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2275528
win by 12- 7 average http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2299305
i could keep going, but you get the point. if HBs can get retarded stats, why cant LBs?
huge loss- 8.7 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2389050
win by 21- 6.9 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2315703
huge loss- 6 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2315720
win by 12- 5.1 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2315640
win by 20- 5.3 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2315700
win by 13- 8.9 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2315694
lost by 3- 5.6 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2344572
lost by 6- 6 avg http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2275528
win by 12- 7 average http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2299305
i could keep going, but you get the point. if HBs can get retarded stats, why cant LBs?
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Are those "retarded" stats Kop? They honestly look pretty normal to me. I see plenty of NFL backs average 6/7/8 yards per carry in particular games (win or lose). Hell, some do that for entire seasons.
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Are those "retarded" stats Kop? They honestly look pretty normal to me. I see plenty of NFL backs average 6/7/8 yards per carry in particular games (win or lose). Hell, some do that for entire seasons.
show me any mediocre runningback that does that every single season. show me any mediocre runningback that gets over 2000 yards a season.
Are those "retarded" stats Kop? They honestly look pretty normal to me. I see plenty of NFL backs average 6/7/8 yards per carry in particular games (win or lose). Hell, some do that for entire seasons.
show me any mediocre runningback that does that every single season. show me any mediocre runningback that gets over 2000 yards a season.
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Again, you are going back to your total statistics for an entire season which are affected by blowout games against inferior opponents. If an NFL team had 3-4 games per season against low D-1/D-1aa college teams I would assume their HB's would end the season with inflated #'s.
Also, is your HB mediocre? He's at least better then average, on a much better then average team.
Also, is your HB mediocre? He's at least better then average, on a much better then average team.
Originally posted by threadkiller
Again, you are going back to your total statistics for an entire season which are affected by blowout games against inferior opponents. If an NFL team had 3-4 games per season against low D-1/D-1aa college teams I would assume their HB's would end the season with inflated #'s.
Also, is your HB mediocre? He's at least better then average, on a much better then average team.
he's below average tbh on a very good team, yes. its funny you bring up blowout games when you were talking about a blitzing LB racking up sacks against CPUs.
either way, it doesnt make sense that my HB can rack up yards and break 7 tackles per rush and my Blitzing LB can get blocked by a HB with 8 blocking. look at his build, it may not be great but he has over 80 strength and gets blocked by HBs constantly. what a fucking joke.
Again, you are going back to your total statistics for an entire season which are affected by blowout games against inferior opponents. If an NFL team had 3-4 games per season against low D-1/D-1aa college teams I would assume their HB's would end the season with inflated #'s.
Also, is your HB mediocre? He's at least better then average, on a much better then average team.
he's below average tbh on a very good team, yes. its funny you bring up blowout games when you were talking about a blitzing LB racking up sacks against CPUs.
either way, it doesnt make sense that my HB can rack up yards and break 7 tackles per rush and my Blitzing LB can get blocked by a HB with 8 blocking. look at his build, it may not be great but he has over 80 strength and gets blocked by HBs constantly. what a fucking joke.
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I only mentioned the reg pro LB in passing. Forget I ever said it. The point of that comment was more that there are very few D.C.s who use a blitzing LB the way we did in the past (but even so, if we wanted to we could in a sorry league find at least one LB with insane sack totals) . Again, I will not argue that there are easier ways right now for a D.C. to sack a QB.
That second part I completely agree with Kop. But that HB with 8 blocking will do very similar things to a DE with 80 str should that blocking interaction occur I believe. The suggestion was not "fix the blocking interaction and make it more realistic". That suggestion would get a big +1 from me (in several ways).
That second part I completely agree with Kop. But that HB with 8 blocking will do very similar things to a DE with 80 str should that blocking interaction occur I believe. The suggestion was not "fix the blocking interaction and make it more realistic". That suggestion would get a big +1 from me (in several ways).
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