nerf bhall
Forum > Goal Line Blitz > nerf screens
Originally posted by bhall43
I can't be nerfed. They have tried that for 34 seasons.
this
I can't be nerfed. They have tried that for 34 seasons.
this
bhall43
offline
offline
A nerf to screens only helps me. I don't need them and they are tricky for me to defend as well. 
jdbolick
offline
offline
Originally posted by Saris
The problem with suddenly adding a 30-40 catching requirement to screens is that it makes no long term impact. A build barely sacrifices anything to hit those benchmarks, maybe a point or two in a couple majors tops. The only impact would be short term as it would screw over every plateau'd back that was built for the current sim.
Good. If you built with 8 catching then you should expect to be incapable of catching anything, even when wide ass open.
The problem with suddenly adding a 30-40 catching requirement to screens is that it makes no long term impact. A build barely sacrifices anything to hit those benchmarks, maybe a point or two in a couple majors tops. The only impact would be short term as it would screw over every plateau'd back that was built for the current sim.
Good. If you built with 8 catching then you should expect to be incapable of catching anything, even when wide ass open.
Saris
offline
offline
Originally posted by jdbolick
Good. If you built with 8 catching then you should expect to be incapable of catching anything, even when wide ass open.
Following that logic wr's with low blocking shouldn't be able to block anything ever either. Which I'd be fine with or a change to screens for that matter as long as they gave us half a dozen seasons of lead time.
Regardless, it's the plateau'd ehb's that only relied on alg's to raise catching to the low 20's that I'd be most worried about.
Good. If you built with 8 catching then you should expect to be incapable of catching anything, even when wide ass open.
Following that logic wr's with low blocking shouldn't be able to block anything ever either. Which I'd be fine with or a change to screens for that matter as long as they gave us half a dozen seasons of lead time.
Regardless, it's the plateau'd ehb's that only relied on alg's to raise catching to the low 20's that I'd be most worried about.
jdbolick
offline
offline
Originally posted by Saris
Following that logic wr's with low blocking shouldn't be able to block anything ever either.
They don't block so much as get in the way of defenders.
Originally posted by Saris
Regardless, it's the plateau'd ehb's that only relied on alg's to raise catching to the low 20's that I'd be most worried about.
Why? They deserve what they get.
Following that logic wr's with low blocking shouldn't be able to block anything ever either.
They don't block so much as get in the way of defenders.
Originally posted by Saris
Regardless, it's the plateau'd ehb's that only relied on alg's to raise catching to the low 20's that I'd be most worried about.
Why? They deserve what they get.
bhall43
offline
offline
It is a screen pass. Guys with 8 catching are very easy to deflect if you get a guy through the blockers. If they are wide open there are still times in which they will bobble the ball, possibly even drop it. Catching isn't the only factor into the equation either. Let's stop making silly suggestions with arbitrary numbers.
I agree that there probably should be some better ways to counter screens defensively. However screens should also work better against blitz's than they currently do.
I agree that there probably should be some better ways to counter screens defensively. However screens should also work better against blitz's than they currently do.
Staz
offline
offline
Originally posted by bhall43
It is a screen pass. Guys with 8 catching are very easy to deflect if you get a guy through the blockers. If they are wide open there are still times in which they will bobble the ball, possibly even drop it. Catching isn't the only factor into the equation either. Let's stop making silly suggestions with arbitrary numbers.
I agree that there probably should be some better ways to counter screens defensively. However screens should also work better against blitz's than they currently do.
To summarize: Screens (and the defense of them) should do what they're supposed to do.
It is a screen pass. Guys with 8 catching are very easy to deflect if you get a guy through the blockers. If they are wide open there are still times in which they will bobble the ball, possibly even drop it. Catching isn't the only factor into the equation either. Let's stop making silly suggestions with arbitrary numbers.
I agree that there probably should be some better ways to counter screens defensively. However screens should also work better against blitz's than they currently do.
To summarize: Screens (and the defense of them) should do what they're supposed to do.
I really don't understand the problem at all. Stopping screen passes is really easy if that's your primary goal on a defensive playcall. I think some guys want one defensive playcall that stops everything.
Toric
offline
offline
Originally posted by bhall43
I think catching should be at least 50 to catch a pitch. It just makes sense. I am tired of all these power backs with no catching easily receiving a Big I sweep pitch. It is fucking bullshit.
I hope by not reading the whole thread I am missing something and your just being your normal wise ass else self on this one lol...
I think catching should be at least 50 to catch a pitch. It just makes sense. I am tired of all these power backs with no catching easily receiving a Big I sweep pitch. It is fucking bullshit.
I hope by not reading the whole thread I am missing something and your just being your normal wise ass else self on this one lol...
Edited by Toric on Jun 4, 2013 13:44:00
bhall43
offline
offline
Originally posted by Staz
To summarize: Screens (and the defense of them) should do what they're supposed to do.
I think a lot of the times they do. Really it is hard to complain defensively when they are shut down a lot of times by blitz's and insta sacks and defenders constantly are on top of the HB. But they can be annoying too. Though as T2 said...you can't stop everything.
To summarize: Screens (and the defense of them) should do what they're supposed to do.
I think a lot of the times they do. Really it is hard to complain defensively when they are shut down a lot of times by blitz's and insta sacks and defenders constantly are on top of the HB. But they can be annoying too. Though as T2 said...you can't stop everything.
bhall43
offline
offline
Originally posted by Toric
I hope by not reading the whole thread I am missing something and your just being your normal wise ass else self on this one lol...
Well I mean how can you not be pissed that punters and QB's don't need catching for catching long snaps?
I hope by not reading the whole thread I am missing something and your just being your normal wise ass else self on this one lol...
Well I mean how can you not be pissed that punters and QB's don't need catching for catching long snaps?
toobad4u_00
offline
offline
Originally posted by bhall43
Well I mean how can you not be pissed that punters and QB's don't need catching for catching long snaps?
I am totally pissed about that. What makes you think I ain't?
Well I mean how can you not be pissed that punters and QB's don't need catching for catching long snaps?
I am totally pissed about that. What makes you think I ain't?
Originally posted by bhall43
Well I mean how can you not be pissed that punters and QB's don't need catching for catching long snaps?
...And for that matter, all positions should need some form of catching in order to recover a bouncing fumble on the turf.
This is some srs bullshit!
Well I mean how can you not be pissed that punters and QB's don't need catching for catching long snaps?
...And for that matter, all positions should need some form of catching in order to recover a bouncing fumble on the turf.
This is some srs bullshit!
You are not logged in. Please log in if you want to post a reply.
