Originally posted by bhall43
Actually just realized I am at 96.06 and still training 6.5%.
When did it drop for you?
Actually just realized I am at 96.06 and still training 6.5%.
When did it drop for you?
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Hagalaz
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Originally posted by AZSEAfan
And it drops off to 2%, even on enhanced multi once you get over 95 (I think). Training to 100 baffles me but to each their own I suppose.
This is incorrect. It drops to 2% after exactly 100, and will stay at 6.5% until then.
Originally posted by AZSEAfan
Run it through the builder. It evens gets worse the higher you go. Once you hit a certain point (100-102?), it drops to 1%...even using Intense. So...the morale to this story is that getting that primary trained to 95% and leaving it there, may not be enough. If the SP value is high enough, you may need 3-5 training sessions at the end of the build to get it to roll over past 99%.
And this is pointless, at the point where you won't spend any more SPs into it, there is no reason left to not train something. Leave at 95% is only for those points where there will still be SP spent into it.
And it drops off to 2%, even on enhanced multi once you get over 95 (I think). Training to 100 baffles me but to each their own I suppose.
This is incorrect. It drops to 2% after exactly 100, and will stay at 6.5% until then.
Originally posted by AZSEAfan
Run it through the builder. It evens gets worse the higher you go. Once you hit a certain point (100-102?), it drops to 1%...even using Intense. So...the morale to this story is that getting that primary trained to 95% and leaving it there, may not be enough. If the SP value is high enough, you may need 3-5 training sessions at the end of the build to get it to roll over past 99%.
And this is pointless, at the point where you won't spend any more SPs into it, there is no reason left to not train something. Leave at 95% is only for those points where there will still be SP spent into it.
Edited by Hagalaz on May 12, 2013 03:57:07
Edited by Hagalaz on May 12, 2013 03:55:43
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Originally posted by Hagalaz
And this is pointless, at the point where you won't spend any more SPs into it, there is no reason left to not train something. Leave at 95% is only for those points where there will still be SP spent into it.
To the first part of your post, this is why I said (I think). But is your post a fact? Doesn't that #, in your example 6.5%, depend on the % increase (stars) that attribute has assigned?
And yes, I agree with the second part of your post but many people still leave their skills trained to 95-99% until the very end. Look at Jay's post about his guy...forgot to roll them over until it was too late. He's not the only one to have ever done that. I brought it up because this is the forum for FAQ's and Newbs to find help. That's a simple mistake that many make that can be avoided if planned out properly.
And this is pointless, at the point where you won't spend any more SPs into it, there is no reason left to not train something. Leave at 95% is only for those points where there will still be SP spent into it.
To the first part of your post, this is why I said (I think). But is your post a fact? Doesn't that #, in your example 6.5%, depend on the % increase (stars) that attribute has assigned?
And yes, I agree with the second part of your post but many people still leave their skills trained to 95-99% until the very end. Look at Jay's post about his guy...forgot to roll them over until it was too late. He's not the only one to have ever done that. I brought it up because this is the forum for FAQ's and Newbs to find help. That's a simple mistake that many make that can be avoided if planned out properly.
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Originally posted by AZSEAfan
To the first part of your post, this is why I said (I think). But is your post a fact? Doesn't that #, in your example 6.5%, depend on the % increase (stars) that attribute has assigned?
This is assuming you 3 starred your attribute at least. Obviously nobody is going to be training anything that high without multiple stars.
To the first part of your post, this is why I said (I think). But is your post a fact? Doesn't that #, in your example 6.5%, depend on the % increase (stars) that attribute has assigned?
This is assuming you 3 starred your attribute at least. Obviously nobody is going to be training anything that high without multiple stars.
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Originally posted by bhall43
This is assuming you 3 starred your attribute at least. Obviously nobody is going to be training anything that high without multiple stars.
Not so obvious to some remember
This is assuming you 3 starred your attribute at least. Obviously nobody is going to be training anything that high without multiple stars.
Not so obvious to some remember
Originally posted by AZSEAfan
Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
yeah so 10 training sessions, so one whole season to go up by 1 when i could be working on another skill.
And it drops off to 2%, even on enhanced multi once you get over 95 (I think). Training to 100 baffles me but to each their own I suppose.
at 98 it is still 6.5% on a dot I have
Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
yeah so 10 training sessions, so one whole season to go up by 1 when i could be working on another skill.
And it drops off to 2%, even on enhanced multi once you get over 95 (I think). Training to 100 baffles me but to each their own I suppose.
at 98 it is still 6.5% on a dot I have
Originally posted by blackrock
https://sites.google.com/site/glbmandyross/multi4way
Training values are here.
https://sites.google.com/site/glbmandyross/training_hotspots
the graph from that same site is nice to reference
https://sites.google.com/site/glbmandyross/multi4way
Training values are here.
https://sites.google.com/site/glbmandyross/training_hotspots
the graph from that same site is nice to reference
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Well, I read this entire thread and I am even more clueless than when I started. I think the big math equation is what did me in... I think I'll just take Novus word for it...
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Originally posted by AFG_vet
I think I'll just take Novus word for it...
I am the LAST person in this thread whose word you should just take as "it."
I think I'll just take Novus word for it...
I am the LAST person in this thread whose word you should just take as "it."
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Originally posted by Novus
I am the LAST person in this thread whose word you should just take as "it."
OH NO, I'm DOOMED
I am the LAST person in this thread whose word you should just take as "it."
OH NO, I'm DOOMED
Originally posted by Novus
I am the LAST person in this thread whose word you should just take as "it."
Eh... you ain't all that bad, dude... just a little outa tune... like me.
I am the LAST person in this thread whose word you should just take as "it."
Eh... you ain't all that bad, dude... just a little outa tune... like me.
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What makes it less beneficial for continuing training after 33? Wouldn't it save SP by training up to 48? Or would it just be a waste of time?
Hagalaz
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Originally posted by iRockVans
What makes it less beneficial for continuing training after 33? Wouldn't it save SP by training up to 48? Or would it just be a waste of time?
At 49, training one attribute fully gives you two SPs worth. At 47, it gives you one SP worth.
It takes the same amount of training sessions to get one full bar. What do you think you should do? Train when it will give you one SP or two SP?
From 33 to 48.07, your training sessions give you less SP-value per session than after that!
What makes it less beneficial for continuing training after 33? Wouldn't it save SP by training up to 48? Or would it just be a waste of time?
At 49, training one attribute fully gives you two SPs worth. At 47, it gives you one SP worth.
It takes the same amount of training sessions to get one full bar. What do you think you should do? Train when it will give you one SP or two SP?
From 33 to 48.07, your training sessions give you less SP-value per session than after that!
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Originally posted by Hagalaz
At 49, training one attribute fully gives you two SPs worth. At 47, it gives you one SP worth.
It takes the same amount of training sessions to get one full bar. What do you think you should do? Train when it will give you one SP or two SP?
From 33 to 48.07, your training sessions give you less SP-value per session than after that!
Totally did not think of it that way. Thank you
At 49, training one attribute fully gives you two SPs worth. At 47, it gives you one SP worth.
It takes the same amount of training sessions to get one full bar. What do you think you should do? Train when it will give you one SP or two SP?
From 33 to 48.07, your training sessions give you less SP-value per session than after that!
Totally did not think of it that way. Thank you
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