jd, replying to your multi-quote replies is the biggest pain in the ass in GLB. I'm going to do it because I hate you, but please understand that the format of your responses makes me hate you more....as intended?....
Originally posted by jdbolick
This is utterly false on many levels. First, most new people don't go on the forums. I don't think I posted in or even read public forums for the first four or six months. Secondly, anti-ALG people rant all the time about how building that way makes a dot less successful than it could be at lower levels, so wouldn't that mean that new people who don't build that way could actually have more successful dots early on when they're first getting exposed to the game? Lastly, we all had to go through the process of learning how to build better. Someone not doing it "right" the first time is a good thing, otherwise we wouldn't still be here trying to perfect our approach. New people can learn the same way that new people always learned. I didn't start in s1, dpride didn't start until s6 or something, and snakes started much later than that.
Most people don't go into the forums at all? You are playing fast and loose with assumptions. The fact is anyone who starts playing this game and asks for advice (either from a friend who brought them to the game, or on the forums) is quickly taught that this game isn't fun since there are not early-game build options. Secondly, I don't give a fuck if the current building methods give the best L10 dots (for some spots like WR they certainly do not btw), what matters is the lack of early-game build options without ruining builds. This is what drives new players away, stop missing the point. I can't bring the people I know in real life who love football into GLB because it'd be impossible for me to get them started building correctly without them losing interest because the game is stupid (which it absolutely is when you aren't already pot-committed until L79 as we all are). Stop missing the point.
Lastly, I don't give a fuck if 3 people started later in GLB and are still here. The FACT is that MOST of us who are still here came in the first few seasons of GLB. Why? because GLB was fun and exciting with those early game decisions and played to our love of football. There is nothing about pumping their first attribute to 84 over the first couple seasons that makes football players like this game. Making early-game build choices would allow new players to gain that magic when playing the game.
Originally posted by jd
This is also a complete myth. New GLB users cratered not that long after the game entered beta, and well before "slow-building" was prevalent. Meanwhile it's pretty obvious that the complexity of the player building system and the pursuit of a better build than you made before is a huge, and probably main, reason why we're still here. Complete myth? New users declined, mostly because GLB's only way of being spread was (crappy) referral links via football forums, which in the first couple seasons ran dry. A complete lack of advertising didn't help. With that said, there were still some new users for the first 10 seasons or so, which has slowed to nil now. I had real life friends I brought into the game in early GLB. Now it would be impossible for me to do so due to how players are built and how un-engaging player building is at early levels for new players.
All current/old users will leave eventually, as we've seen by GLB's decline in userbase. Catering to old "this is why I'm here" users and alienating new users simply ensures the games demise. Most old users are still here simply due to the way recycled flex works. GLB building processes have stagnated (do you honestly believe your new dots are to be built more efficiently than your d80 dots?). You can still make better dots with better build choices, but its not as if there are breakthroughs now on player building for efficiency. And building better dots via build choices would still exist in my proposed solution, which should be the point of this game.
For some reason scumbags like you think this game is fun because you know how to build dots efficiently and other people don't. There are a lot more people that build non-WL quality dots than WL-quality dots, so again this is GLB catering to the wrong market.
Originally posted by jd
Eh, I don't think you do. What's the best dot you've ever built? You point to your HB, but pushing speed to a ridiculous extreme at the cost of everything else doesn't make you a good builder by any stretch of the imagination.
Meh... I also currently have a WL left tackle who's given up 2 hurries and 0 sacks though 9 games, along with in the past having a blitz LB and pass rush DE that have had WL success. While I don't have a ton of dots, those I do have that hit FA get WL offers and tend to do well in WL. Am I one of the best 5 dot builders in GLB? No, though this isn't helped by me finding dot-building to be pretty boring (not that my proposed changes would alleviate that boredom, this thread isn't about that). But to imply I don't know how to build good dots is clearly incorrect.
Originally posted by jd
t doesn't surprise me that you'd think this given that you being terrible at the WL must make everyone look equally out of your league, but it's not the case. Successful coordinators can tell you that there absolutely is a difference between the top WL roster talent and the average WL roster talent. Coordination, VAs, and such might have an even bigger effect, but the talent difference is there. Lol I like how every thread I participate in comes to this. My team's WL success or lack thereof has nothing to do with this thread or my position in it. As a non-network owner I do my best recruiting and I get what I get. With that said the Hedgehogs WL record is more due coordinators (imo) given the number of dots on my teams who have past and future WL success.
Originally posted by jd
Which it should. If it didn't, we wouldn't still be here. Watching dot replays isn't so much fun that people would do so for five years if player building wasn't such a challenge.You say we as if your brothers don't by-and-large no longer buy flex, and as if they do not quit the game daily. We are GLB's past, not its future jd. And as clearly the smartest man in GLB who has mastered efficient dotbuilding, clearly you are not here beacuse there are still challenges in dot building efficiency. Rather you are here because you're self-righeous and enjoy the advantage you currently hold. Most who are here do not have that advantage, so to say they are here for the same reason as you is clearly wrong.
With that said, I don't care if you'd get pissed by them making dot-building more intuitive and somewhat "simpler". You'd stick around because you are flex invested, but regardless old users like me and you are a ticking timebomb to eventually stop buying flex or outright leave the game, so catering to these users instead of new lifeblood is moronic.
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With that all said, I understand GLB has made its decisions and I do not expect change. Still you implying that change is bad just proves a lack of either objective viewpoint, or understanding of the situation, on your part.
