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You are missing the point of what I am saying. Why would someone who wants to be a gold contender through minors intentionally handicap themselves so badly? Maybe you guys have lower standards? When I say competitive I don't mean doing well in a competitive league or continual first round exits in elite. I don't mean "I didn't pretty well considering yay me."

Let's see these gold contender teams that skipped first boosts that you guys seem to think exist. Pretty much every person I have seen intentionally do this is someone heavily involved in WL, who doesn't care too much about the rest, but whose dots will probably do all right because he is a great builder.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
No, I didn't. Being competitive and desiring to be competitive are different things.
O_o Please stop posting before this gets any worse. It's like watching a crashed car back up and keep ramming the same tree.

So the Chiefs are competitive?

So in this analogy you are the tree and don't understand what I am saying because trees are dumb?

People save boosts to max builds at the end. Their objective is wholly focused on the end build. There is an understanding to yourself that you are not focused on winning the early leagues, and the more of these dots you have on your team the lower your chances of winning a trophy. (Quality of dots aside. A great lvl 65>average 68, but I would never sign a mediocre dot so that's pretty irrelevant. I am talking about level differences relative to your own building ability)

People don't say, I really want to destroy minors I think Ill hold into these boosts until I hit level 76.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
The point is that by intentionally not boosting to 4, you are forfeiting your desire to be competitive before plateau
Originally posted by Donk3yMan
I didn't say you can't be competitive...

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
No, I didn't. Being competitive and desiring to be competitive are different things.


Again, please stop. I do not derive any enjoyment from watching you humiliate yourself.

Gonna back up JD here, Donk3yMan. Back in the days... before APD was installed, I think you'd be correct (I think) about boosting. While I never did that myself, I had heard of others doing it (Slow building?). But I'm betting if you PM a WL dot builder, he'd (or she'd) tell you that the new system leans more towards boosting at specific times in order to get the best builds (Like boosting to reach the next cap, for ALG's, and for VA's.) That very same system also allows for a mistake (like missing a season of boosts) to NOT destroy a build... so you can still have a quality dot by plateau.

Theo I believe you are misunderstanding what has happened in this thread. JD asserted that you will have better dots by not boosting to 4. While I am not disagreeing with the premise, there are other factors that many people are not cognizant of. You have to be extremely careful with a tedius plan to milk the full benefit, and even then some of your early gains are going to be cancelled.

I then said that people who purposely do not boost to 4 are forfeiting their desire to be competive. As an extremely competitive person, I would never save the boosts unless by accident. It would eat me alive to be just out of reach of a trophy for their entire career just to have a minor benefit at end build. WL is not the end all for me and I want to win gold trophies along the way. Pretty much every single person I know who does save those boosts is a WL elite and does not give a shit about anything before PL. By purposely handicapping yourself like that, you are forfeiting the expectation of greatness before level 79.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
While I am not disagreeing with the premise
Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Combine that with losing a couple VAs and not being as competitive until plateau and I would never hold boosts on purpose.


Originally posted by
By purposely handicapping yourself like that, you are forfeiting the expectation of greatness before level 79.
#1) No, you aren't. You can compete for trophies much of the time. It is true that you're not going to be the very best performing dot for age, and if that's your concern then...

#2) Focusing on one attribute and saving bonus tokens for AEQ means you won't be the best for your age group either.

I am not disagreeing with your premise. Dots may be able to to perform slightly better by not boosting, the mere fact that you will have a huge disadvantage for the entire career kills it for me alone so I would never do it.

You won't be as competitive if you are 3 levels lower than you otherwise would be. You are chin scratching something that makes sense.

If you don't care about end build at all and you are willing to make great sacrifices to win early then you are lol, clearly. It is a far cry to say that boosting to 4 is making early sacrifices because the benefit is not very great.

Not only would I skip the first boosts on several archetypes, I'd skip most of the first season of game exp if they'd let me... man I wish I was playing during the tiny window when that was possible.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
I am not disagreeing with your premise. Dots may be able to to perform slightly better by not boosting, the mere fact that you will have a huge disadvantage for the entire career kills it for me alone so I would never do it.

You won't be as competitive if you are 3 levels lower than you otherwise would be. You are chin scratching something that makes sense.

If you don't care about end build at all and you are willing to make great sacrifices to win early then you are lol, clearly. It is a far cry to say thay not boosting to 4 is making early sacrifices because the benefit is not very great.

I would take the dots 3 levels lower with a better set of coordinators and they would rack up trophies

Since the 20 bonus SP boosts would happen in the same off season for either set of dots, being 3 levels lower can still do fine, especially since the quality of dots won't be exceptional in most cases

Originally posted by Saris
Not only would I skip the first boosts on several archetypes, I'd skip most of the first season of game exp if they'd let me... man I wish I was playing during the tiny window when that was possible.

you can - sign with a team every 6 days, train, and get cut

you would need to line-up teams to be able to do this - not sure if is worth the hassle though

Originally posted by reddogrw
you can - sign with a team every 6 days, train, and get cut

you would need to line-up teams to be able to do this - not sure if is worth the hassle though

Considered this, I took tons of shit for doing something similar when the game first started btw.

Originally posted by reddogrw
I would take the dots 3 levels lower with a better set of coordinators and they would rack up trophies

Since the 20 bonus SP boosts would happen in the same off season for either set of dots, being 3 levels lower can still do fine, especially since the quality of dots won't be exceptional in most cases

I would take those coordinators with dots 3 levels higher and deny you every season. Elite leagues are not easy steamrolls.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Originally posted by reddogrw

I would take the dots 3 levels lower with a better set of coordinators and they would rack up trophies

Since the 20 bonus SP boosts would happen in the same off season for either set of dots, being 3 levels lower can still do fine, especially since the quality of dots won't be exceptional in most cases

I would take those coordinators with dots 3 levels higher and deny you every season. Elite leagues are not easy steamrolls.

they aren't that hard either