Warrior General Games

Originally posted by whodey08
He is saying to use the free slot versus spending the tokens to unlock an attribute if your using skill points to take it up to 86-87. If you use skill points to take it that high than it will hit 100 much quicker and you don't want to train it when its at 100 so you kinda wasted those tokens to unlock it. But....if you stop spending skill points on it around 77 and plan to train it til it hits 100 than unlocking makes complete sense since you will be training it for multiple seasons.

That makes no sense, you can raise it to 87 and multi until your 4th season and still not hit 100 so quick that it makes it a bad idea.

Is there a training % difference from an unlocked multitrain attribute compared to the 4th attribute free slot one. I can understand needing to get the 1st attribute unlocked if that was the case in stopping multitrain early for 4 AEQ. If there isn't a difference then I'm sticking to having my primary as a 4th attribute in multitrain to not waste BT's unlocking it.

Bolick, kinard actually did provide a build plan in the new system where he did not unlock his primary in multi-training (he also 5x enhanced 1 attribute which you say is a no no). Since you mention him in your last post, I'm sure he shared that plan with you. What were/are your thoughts on that one? It produced a very nice end build IMO.

I can see three possible scenarios in this case:

A) You will only multi-train 5 attributes during the player's whole career and you will stop training attribute number 4 before number 1
- In which case it is better to unlock attribute number one as part of the multi-training regime.

B) You will only multi-train 5 attributes during the player's whole career and you will stop training attribute number 1 before all others.
- In which case it is better to unlock attributes 2, 3 and 4 and leave 1 as the swappable attribute.

C) You will multi-train more than 5 attributes during the player's career.
- In which case it doesn't matter. You will be spending the 24 extra BTs whether in one or the other, so it is absolutely irrelevant.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by Hagalaz

I can see three possible scenarios in this case:


Originally posted by jdbolick

Whatever attribute you cap first is one you'll want to continue training until it is 90+ natural at least, although you should always stop at 100 natural. I favor unlocking the first, second, and third attributes on .4 and .5 major builds, which then allows me to rotate other attributes through the free slot so that none of them get too high above 30 since they won't be getting any skill points until level 50+. On a .67 major (QB, K, P) I would not unlock the first attribute since you should be able to get that to 100 natural much more quickly and therefore you'll want to stop training it at that point.

(pats JD on the back) There there. Po' Ol' JD's mind is gonna break yawl... give him some slack.

Several things should go into your thought process on this topic. #1. What is the DOT? How many Primary Attributes do you plan on getting to X(?) number? How many pieces of AEQ do you wish to have by build's end? Ect, ect, ect. All these things give you the answer you seek. Both build methods will work... but not if they're wrong for what you're trying to do. I have DOTS that have the primary as a bought slot for multi training... and DOTS that do NOT have the primary done that way. And I have valid reasons for using both methods. I seriously doubt I will ALWAYS use one or the other exclusively... I will attempt to match up the right training method to the desired build I seek.
And I believe that is what JD has been trying hard to explain... I think. Don't worry... he'll tell me if I'm wrong.

Look JDBolick, you can quote yourself as much as you want. What you said only confirms what I did, so shove that facepalm up your ass, cause you're really beyond all hope. I should have considered a 4th scenario, you being yourself and jdbolicking all over the thread again, which makes any facts and arguments irrelevant (to you and only you).

Don't bother. We already know how you are. We should give you a parrot so you have someone to talk to that understands you and doesn't get bored with it.

You really have no shame...

Originally posted by Hagalaz
Look JDBolick, you can quote yourself as much as you want. What you said only confirms what I did, so shove that facepalm up your ass, cause you're really beyond all hope. I should have considered a 4th scenario, you being yourself and jdbolicking all over the thread again, which makes any facts and arguments irrelevant (to you and only you). Don't bother. We already know how you are. We should give you a parrot so you have someone to talk to that understands you and doesn't get bored with it. You really have no shame...
Your three scenarios did not include the actual benefit of unlocking the first attribute, which is why I quoted myself explaining what that benefit is. Look, it's not a big deal that I'm better at this than you are. You need to stop getting so defensive and hysterical about that and just focus on doing the best you can. I'll be around to fill in the blanks when you fall short.

Dude, you're very good at being a clown, I'll give you that. But it's getting tiresome. You are the single dumbest smart guy I've ever seen in my whole life.

Idiot-savant, indeed...

Next time you are going to pretend you are adding something to a discussion, keep it to yourself instead of making a thread worse will ye? It simply isn't necessary. Even before you speak we already know what you're going to want to say. It's about time for you to take a deep breath and just shut up for good. Go fill in the blanks of a black piece of paper and if you don't have anything good to say, stop proving it with words.

Originally posted by Hagalaz
Dude, you're very good at being a clown, I'll give you that. But it's getting tiresome. You are the single dumbest smart guy I've ever seen in my whole life.

Idiot-savant, indeed...

Next time you are going to pretend you are adding something to a discussion, keep it to yourself instead of making a thread worse will ye? It simply isn't necessary. Even before you speak we already know what you're going to want to say. It's about time for you to take a deep breath and just shut up for good. Go fill in the blanks of a black piece of paper and if you don't have anything good to say, stop proving it with words.
The advice I gave in this thread was not only correct, but important. You're mad because you posted something false and I corrected you, but instead of getting defensive and attacking me, you should learn to acknowledge and learn from your mistakes. Right now there is not a more rude and obnoxious person who posts regularly in the FAQ forum than you, and you need to get control of your emotions if you want to contribute. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be posting.

I'm mad because you are a disgusting person. That's simply it. You make me ashamed to be the same species as you. I'm not even going to bother telling you whether you are wrong or why I'm not wrong or whatever anymore, it is not worth it. I reserve those to decent and worthy human beings.

I'm just gonna tell you how much of a filthy piece of scum you are from now on. Screw every dreg of rationality, you don't deserve that. I'll discuss posts, methods, conclusions with someone who uses their brain in a positive manner and doesn't bring filth to every single thread, forum and discussion he joins.

(AKA, not you.)

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