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Originally posted by Honey Badger
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Originally posted by All American Dude
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WOW, what a backstabber

Originally posted by Robbnva
Originally posted by bigtisme

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do you have any ideas to help revitalize pee wee?

I think it should be contracted. Cut the leagues down to fit the amount of dots being made. Same thing needs to happen at the National Pro level too. The expansion of Pee Wee into Gold, Silver and Copper was a failure, it was meant to build up a small subset of Pee Wee users E-peens and didn't work out right. If you have CPU teams littering the leagues get rid of a couple of leagues.

Originally posted by merenoise
The expansion of Pee Wee into Gold, Silver and Copper was a failure, it was meant to build up a small subset of Pee Wee users E-peens and didn't work out right.

This is the whole problem in a nutshell. Bort really underestimated how many PW teams were nothing more than farm teams for the regular leagues.

Originally posted by merenoise
I think it should be contracted. Cut the leagues down to fit the amount of dots being made. Same thing needs to happen at the National Pro level too. The expansion of Pee Wee into Gold, Silver and Copper was a failure, it was meant to build up a small subset of Pee Wee users E-peens and didn't work out right. If you have CPU teams littering the leagues get rid of a couple of leagues.

Already was contracted recently. Problem remains the lack of any incentive for new users to start dots in Pee wee. Most new users won't even know what it is, and the only advice ever given is "don't put your dot in Pee wee because you can't boost day 40-48 and you'll hurt your long term build." All the emphasis is on long term (even for new users who haven't a snowball in hell's chance of building a decent long term dot) and Pee Wee is derided as a low-level league with many disadvantages and no upside.

Which is wrong: Pee Wee has plenty going for it. A hell of a lot of new users will never make a viable elite long term dot. A hell of a lot of them will get bored long before their dot even reaches maturity. A lot of people would probably enjoy the one-and-done concept much more than the long-term build concept... if there was incentive to do it, rather than the barrage of "don't do Pee Wee" advice all new users hear.

I'll +1 the OP, although I still think other solutions are better, such as making Pee Wee a really different niche league with much higher level one-and-done dots. Right now, it's a dying league format even though Gold (whatever people say) is still competitive enough to be a lot of fun. Problem is, old users are tiring of it and leaving, and there is no influx of new users to re-invigorate Pee Wee. One way or another, that has to be addressed, or Pee Wee will be stone cold dead. And many of the guys there probably are not going to then start spending money on long term builds. So that's more users gone.

-1 to OP

i like that peewees build for the now instead of for 2 years down the road. i believe that there is a reason we have both rookie and pw.

Originally posted by Antonine
Originally posted by merenoise

I think it should be contracted. Cut the leagues down to fit the amount of dots being made. Same thing needs to happen at the National Pro level too. The expansion of Pee Wee into Gold, Silver and Copper was a failure, it was meant to build up a small subset of Pee Wee users E-peens and didn't work out right. If you have CPU teams littering the leagues get rid of a couple of leagues.

Already was contracted recently. Problem remains the lack of any incentive for new users to start dots in Pee wee. Most new users won't even know what it is, and the only advice ever given is "don't put your dot in Pee wee because you can't boost day 40-48 and you'll hurt your long term build." All the emphasis is on long term (even for new users who haven't a snowball in hell's chance of building a decent long term dot) and Pee Wee is derided as a low-level league with many disadvantages and no upside.

Which is wrong: Pee Wee has plenty going for it. A hell of a lot of new users will never make a viable elite long term dot. A hell of a lot of them will get bored long before their dot even reaches maturity. A lot of people would probably enjoy the one-and-done concept much more than the long-term build concept... if there was incentive to do it, rather than the barrage of "don't do Pee Wee" advice all new users hear.

I'll +1 the OP, although I still think other solutions are better, such as making Pee Wee a really different niche league with much higher level one-and-done dots. Right now, it's a dying league format even though Gold (whatever people say) is still competitive enough to be a lot of fun. Problem is, old users are tiring of it and leaving, and there is no influx of new users to re-invigorate Pee Wee. One way or another, that has to be addressed, or Pee Wee will be stone cold dead. And many of the guys there probably are not going to then start spending money on long term builds. So that's more users gone.

If the same issues weren't happening in every league type your argument might have a little more juice. Users are leaving the game in every league type, 2 years is a long time to keep a game like this interesting and people find new things to do. Hopefully Bort and Co will be doing some advertising soon and the game will receive an influx of new blood, but if that doesn't happen the best scenario would probably be to just get rid of the niche leagues all together.

I've played Pee Wee and it can be fun. But there is no doubt that the dots built for Pee Wee are meant to be one and done dots and this suggestion wouldn't stop that from still being true. Even if all dots boosted at the same time, dots made for Pee Wee are built differently than dots built for the end game. Putting more dots built for the endgame into Pee Wee would cause more harm than good.

If Pee Wee is truly dying because there aren't enough users to keep it going then letting it die is the best course. Same goes for casual. Those leagues were added at a time when GLB was booming and had the users to support them. If those users aren't around any more then letting those expansions go would be the path of least resistance. I definitely don't think that making Rookie leagues in the main game less palatable to users is a good way to fix something that is broken beyond repair.

Merenoise's post points to the problem with having "peewee" in the thread title. The debate shouldn't be "rookie vs. peewee"; it should be about sophomore and beyond. Shame the debate wasn't framed that way.

no

I could type out my reasons why, but they already been written itt by others that disapproved.

Originally posted by merenoise
If the same issues weren't happening in every league type your argument might have a little more juice. Users are leaving the game in every league type, 2 years is a long time to keep a game like this interesting and people find new things to do. Hopefully Bort and Co will be doing some advertising soon and the game will receive an influx of new blood, but if that doesn't happen the best scenario would probably be to just get rid of the niche leagues all together.


So have all of those agents quit the game along with the agents who have already left? I would be willing to bet at least 90% of the guys who only play Pee Wee would quit the game if Pee Wee was ever taken away. I am starting to try other areas of the game as time permits but I don't think I would have nearly as much fun with this game without Pee Wee and I'm not sure if I would stay for very long after.

I think this really goes the same for casual owners that only play casual. What people seem to not understand is some people could care less about the World League and never aspire to get there. If other leagues other than regular are taken from this game then this game would lose more agents rather than gain agents to the regular leagues imo.

I am all for advertising when this game comes out of Beta but how will this help Pee Wee at all? Agents will still be told "Never join Pee Wee or your dot will never be anything." As said earlier in this thread GLB needs to cater to new agents more than they do now especially when they start to advertise because why would any of those agents want to play a game they have never tried when they have to pay anywhere from $5-15 to build/boost a dot before their dot even steps on the field.

I think this suggestion isn't just about Pee Wee. It's more so about everyone in rookie, pee wee, and everywhere else a new dot can go. How would you feel if you went and played a game like GLB that you knew nothing about and were told that if you ever want your player to be good you have to spend $5-&15 before you actaully get to start playing the game? Honestly I would probably leave before I would pay that money.