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Originally posted by Apallyon
God Almighty Hatch...

No wonder this game cant attract Noobs... poor buggers read the "suggestion" forum and all the flaming for what is a simple suggestion and think "Stuff this"..

Dude.. get off the Flamer Kings E Penis Express...

This is a SUGGESTION forum.. hence people try to help, or suggest other methods..

But you know what.. as a casual user of this forum (due to SPAMMERS OF CRAP) I'm pretty tired of sifting through your endless "logical in my own mind" nonsense...

Why dont you make some suggestions, tough guy... try to make the game better instead of just criticizing anybody else that does...?

dont like it.. dont read it... if you press the damned reply button MAKE IT CONSTRUCTIVE TO HELP... not to re-inflate your E-Penis...

And if you want to argue.. for gods sakes man.. go get married... I'll give you my ex-wifes number.. she'll keep you busy for years....

Like you just did?

Originally posted by Apallyon
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I'm not telling you what to post in terms of your critique or support.. What I'm saying is dont attack the person.. which you and Hatch and a few others do....

Originally posted by All American Dude
Originally posted by Apallyon

What I'm saying is dont attack the person..

I'm still waiting for you to show where I personally attacked yello in the other thread. It's funny that you have insulted me while running around screaming that people need to be nicer to one another. Had you not attacked me in the other thread I wouldn't have even posted in this one.



For the record AADude doesn't do that at all. He is a good discusser of ideas so far as I recall.

Its easy to lose track of it, like I said before. Sometimes all the flame makes it hard to tell who is who.

But AAD is just a good advocate for other opinion.

Originally posted by doobas
You know when you see little kids arguing about who's turn it is on the swings? Yeah, this thread reminds me of that.

I'm going to ask nicely that you all stop hurling lame insults about and either contribute to the thread, or leave it alone.

doobas™

Oh I dunno. Some of them were pretty good insults.

But I certainly agree.

Originally posted by Myd
Originally posted by Apallyon

I dont see MODs shutting down any threads started by this guy... I dont see him sitting here calling everybody else out.....

Umm.. have you heard of the term "Luddite"? Guess who started that one... as for the locked threads... there have been quite a few.


I know in your advanced age you may be forgetting some things, but if you can manage to recall it, the term luddite did not spring forth unbidden but rather was a measured restrained response to the opening barrages of flames and boiling oil that the minions of the status quo hurled at me and my offerings.

And lets face it, luddite is not really an insult. Meanwhile one of the nicer things the learned opposition has said about me was pompous ass, and many other varieties of that genus were suggested as well.

Originally posted by Myd
Originally posted by merenoise

-1 Can be easily accomplished by using the tactics already in the game.



Tell me how.

Because using the man cover check down is the only way I know to set the check down order, and I know of no tactical setting that alters how long he spends making that check,.

And build wise if the check down wont work with vision over 80 and superior vision SA at 10 and setting tactical focus to Pass coverage, then I would suggest that the check down system is broken, not the build.

Originally posted by Burns1221
this, since this already happens, this thread forum is a huge clusterfuck. who knows how many good ideas actually end up getting bumped down

Yeah this is a common misguided theme.

Check out the bottom thread on page one.

As I type this today is January 13th and the thread on the bottom of the page has its most recent reply dated January 11th, and the idea is from January 9th.

The Suggestion forum is in zero danger of losing good ideas due to the blazing speed of the forum.

combo breaker!

pentikis

TBH, I have NEVER had a dot that was assigned to cover a back NOT do it. Even when he has a second and third assignment that does not involve a back.

Maybe I am just lucky? Or maybe I missing something in the OP?

Originally posted by yello1
Once again I am watching a replay and see the guy I assigned to man cover a RB instantly sprinting to his secondary assignment the moment the ball is snapped, only to then have to turn around and come back to the RB as he comes out on his route, which of course leaves the RB wide open for a pass.

This has happened so often thats its really driving me nuts Whats the point of secondary assignments and weak side strong side RB coverage if they screw up the defense?

PLEASE make a defender in man coverage on a RB actually wait to see if the RB is running a route before moving to the secondary assignment.

And before you blame the dot, the dot in this instance has a vision of 82.

Heres the current example, but its happened many many times - the LOLB is man cover HB strong then secondary to a strong side zone. He goes straight to the zone.
http://www.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1895371&pbp_id=5330925&flash=1




OK, 1st off Flash replays = meh
http://www.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1895371&pbp_id=5330925
So this LOLB is set to a strong side zone. What zone? What are his individual player tactics set to? Because it appears from the replay he could possibly be covering the HB using a medium coverage tactic with a large cushion. Then he gets out of position to make the play. What's his speed/agility? Is it as high as his 82 vision, or higher even?

I have never had a defender not cover his assignment, and in over half of my DPC plays I will have the SS set to cover man w/out move HB strong and the FS set to cover man w/out move HB weak , then a secondary assignment. If this ever failed I would know where you are coming from because I would be frustrated as all get out.

But it has never failed me, unless I just overlooked something in my play creation. And from rookie level to pro , works for me flawlessly

-1 to suggestion, because as far as I can tell it already works the way you want it to.


edited for quote fail

Originally posted by yello1
For the record AADude doesn't do that at all. He is a good discusser of ideas so far as I recall.

Its easy to lose track of it, like I said before. Sometimes all the flame makes it hard to tell who is who.

But AAD is just a good advocate for other opinion.

Thanks, and I think the bolded part is key. All too often I think people get different users mixed up just because they are on the same side of an issue. Just because someone believes the same thing I do and flames someone else doesn't make me guilty of flaming. That, and there are a few people with ignorant opinions about me that will follow me from one end of the forums to the other in order to troll me and then like to jump up and down pointing fingers at me when I respond in turn.

All I can advise people to do is treat me how I treat you. Don't try to read more into my posts than what is there. Most of the problems I've had with other users is when they go by my reputation and not by what I actually post. To be honest, my the legend is a lot bigger than the man. lol

Originally posted by yello1
1) You and hatch are not the ones to say what will or won't improve the game.

No, as an individual it's not up to me to say what will or won't improve the game. However, I am part of the userbase at this site and as a userbase it us up to us to decide what is good or bad for this game.

You can PM an admin or mod if you would like to verify that the following is true (which I promise you it is).

Bort rarely, if ever, looks at this forum. The only way they see any suggestion is if a moderator brings it to his attention by linking the thread in a PM or through the mod forum. How does the moderator come to the conclusion the suggestion is worthy of being brought to Bort's attention? It has to meet a couple of criteria. First, it has to be a new idea (not something already up for a vote), second: it has to be something that is not on the NGTH list, and third: it has to have a sizable amount of support from the userbase.

If that wasn't the case, every single suggestion that met the first two criteria would currently be on the suggestions vote list.

Originally posted by Apallyon
God Almighty Hatch...

No wonder this game cant attract Noobs... poor buggers read the "suggestion" forum and all the flaming for what is a simple suggestion and think "Stuff this"..

Dude.. get off the Flamer Kings E Penis Express...

This is a SUGGESTION forum.. hence people try to help, or suggest other methods..

But you know what.. as a casual user of this forum (due to SPAMMERS OF CRAP) I'm pretty tired of sifting through your endless "logical in my own mind" nonsense...

Why dont you make some suggestions, tough guy... try to make the game better instead of just criticizing anybody else that does...?

dont like it.. dont read it... if you press the damned reply button MAKE IT CONSTRUCTIVE TO HELP... not to re-inflate your E-Penis...

And if you want to argue.. for gods sakes man.. go get married... I'll give you my ex-wifes number.. she'll keep you busy for years....

seriously calling me a tough guy and telling me to make suggestions. unlike a few other people on here I do not make suggestions to hear my head rattle. if something arisies that I think can help the game and the users I will submit a suggestion. and when I do make 1 I unlike others let people have their say without trying to be a pompous jackass. If they do not agree with me then I respect their opinion and I do not try to talk down to them like they are retarded or something. I also do not think I am some sort of guru on the game and try to micromanage every aspect of the game. but you continue to defend your better half named yello1 and eventually you will be in the same boat as most people here. then we will try to link this thread for you to re-read.

also best of luck to you and Yello1 hopefully your lovefest ends in a very nice honeymoon for you both.

Originally posted by Behn
TBH, I have NEVER had a dot that was assigned to cover a back NOT do it. Even when he has a second and third assignment that does not involve a back.

Maybe I am just lucky? Or maybe I missing something in the OP?

Originally posted by yello1

Once again I am watching a replay and see the guy I assigned to man cover a RB instantly sprinting to his secondary assignment the moment the ball is snapped, only to then have to turn around and come back to the RB as he comes out on his route, which of course leaves the RB wide open for a pass.

This has happened so often thats its really driving me nuts Whats the point of secondary assignments and weak side strong side RB coverage if they screw up the defense?

PLEASE make a defender in man coverage on a RB actually wait to see if the RB is running a route before moving to the secondary assignment.

And before you blame the dot, the dot in this instance has a vision of 82.

Heres the current example, but its happened many many times - the LOLB is man cover HB strong then secondary to a strong side zone. He goes straight to the zone.
http://www.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1895371&pbp_id=5330925&flash=1




OK, 1st off Flash replays = meh
http://www.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1895371&pbp_id=5330925
So this LOLB is set to a strong side zone. What zone? What are his individual player tactics set to? Because it appears from the replay he could possibly be covering the HB using a medium coverage tactic with a large cushion. Then he gets out of position to make the play. What's his speed/agility? Is it as high as his 82 vision, or higher even?

I have never had a defender not cover his assignment, and in over half of my DPC plays I will have the SS set to cover man w/out move HB strong and the FS set to cover man w/out move HB weak , then a secondary assignment. If this ever failed I would know where you are coming from because I would be frustrated as all get out.

But it has never failed me, unless I just overlooked something in my play creation. And from rookie level to pro , works for me flawlessly

-1 to suggestion, because as far as I can tell it already works the way you want it to.


edited for quote fail

Nah its not his tactics. He is favor pass, pass coverage distance -100 (-1 yard) and semi aggressive. So he should be all over the guy not running away from him. As for what zone for his back up assignment memory says Under Strong Third but he looks to be going deeper in the replay. I have probably changed the DAI for this by now so not going to bother looking it up. Something strong side definitely. Oh and his agility is a tad higher than his vision and speed is much higher still.

I actually have this happen alot. It may be that its a buggy hole in the field for alignments and vision checks or something. In another thread I have a guy who is in similar tactical settings separating from a TE running about the same route as that HB runs here. And unlike this LB, that LB was shallow, only 3 yards from the TE to begin with.

Originally posted by All American Dude
Originally posted by yello1

1) You and hatch are not the ones to say what will or won't improve the game.

No, as an individual it's not up to me to say what will or won't improve the game. However, I am part of the userbase at this site and as a userbase it us up to us to decide what is good or bad for this game.

You can PM an admin or mod if you would like to verify that the following is true (which I promise you it is).

Bort rarely, if ever, looks at this forum. The only way they see any suggestion is if a moderator brings it to his attention by linking the thread in a PM or through the mod forum. How does the moderator come to the conclusion the suggestion is worthy of being brought to Bort's attention? It has to meet a couple of criteria. First, it has to be a new idea (not something already up for a vote), second: it has to be something that is not on the NGTH list, and third: it has to have a sizable amount of support from the userbase.

If that wasn't the case, every single suggestion that met the first two criteria would currently be on the suggestions vote list.





Let me clarify, I do not mean to suggest that Bort looked at my unpopular idea and fell in love with it despite the luddite hate for it. The change was way too fast. He no doubt wanted to make that change for himself, probably because he saw the same CPU team trend I did.

The point was that just because you all hate an idea, it doesnt mean that Bort will hate it - or not have it on his own.

As I have already said, suggestion forums are circle jerks for players for the most part. So that what you say may be true would not be a surprise to me in the least.

And as I said your right to opine is complete. What is not is telling me that I should not post because my ideas are not to your liking. Some folks on here (and again I am not talking about you in particular) think they own the keys to the idea vault and a right to say who can and cant move into the neighborhood. Thats baloney sauce. This was my point, nothing more.

Originally posted by All American Dude
Originally posted by yello1

For the record AADude doesn't do that at all. He is a good discusser of ideas so far as I recall.

Its easy to lose track of it, like I said before. Sometimes all the flame makes it hard to tell who is who.

But AAD is just a good advocate for other opinion.

Thanks, and I think the bolded part is key. All too often I think people get different users mixed up just because they are on the same side of an issue. Just because someone believes the same thing I do and flames someone else doesn't make me guilty of flaming. That, and there are a few people with ignorant opinions about me that will follow me from one end of the forums to the other in order to troll me and then like to jump up and down pointing fingers at me when I respond in turn.

All I can advise people to do is treat me how I treat you. Don't try to read more into my posts than what is there. Most of the problems I've had with other users is when they go by my reputation and not by what I actually post. To be honest, my the legend is a lot bigger than the man. lol



LOL at your bolded part. Seems we both have our stalkers.