There is no downside at all. As long as there is room in Copper for new agents and owners, this only improves Peewee. Silver should be where you earn your stripes. Not another CPU filled season.
Forum > Suggestions > Might as well get rid of Copper Leagues in pee wee, Silver is the new copper
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1 PeeWee League never Ending Ladder Ranking System with Scrim on Demand!!
How can this not be a cash cow for Bort.
How can this not be a cash cow for Bort.
Originally posted by Rizyx
Originally posted by Spread-em offense
you think bortamous cares about peewee?
just would be nice to get some feedback from someone!
although again i really dont see the reason why they wouldnt cut the leagues down? there will still be tons of teams left to buy if they do cut it down whereas now there are tons of teams available to buy but that will never change, its just eating up server space so i dont see any negative from this...
Some feedback was provided to the OP, but it wasn't all that well received. Suppose it would of been better if I just relayed more information here. OP has come around, though.
Originally posted by PM
Just wanted to let you know that I did bring up your suggestion in regards to going up to vote. Catch is hesitant, wanting to see the suggestion be more well thought out with actual ideas as to how said suggestion would work and be implemented.
So, by all means do not be discouraged. Treat this as a step away from being up for vote. Personally I would revise your OP and lean on flexible structure, almost mimicking what we see in the regular leagues. That's the most practical and dynamic as opposed to a rigid structure. I obviously dove in a bit on my first post in your thread.
Originally posted by Mat McBriar
Or just do PeeWee and PeeWee Gold/Elite. The quantity of PeeWee leagues being determined purely by demand.
Bort could just promote the best teams (determined by playoff success, record, past playoff success/record) from PeeWee to replace 8 teams in PeeWee Gold (keeping human teams at all costs, aka a 2nd place CPU team would demote while the 13th place human owned team would stay). Obviously is there were more than 8 CPU owned teams in Gold, Bort could make that adjustment.
tpat also mentioned something wise in the mod forum's "I think this is a good suggestion, what do you think?" thread.
Originally posted by tpaterniti
In peewee there is basically gold and everything else. The fact that you can buy any team any time in any tier makes the distinctions between copper and silver irrelevant. A huge improvement to peewee would be simply sorting all the human owned teams into leagues with each other on the last day of the offseason. But every peewee league ends up about the same. You have a few CPU teams, 2-4 teams in each division that know what they are doing, then everyone else.
Originally posted by Spread-em offense
you think bortamous cares about peewee?
just would be nice to get some feedback from someone!
although again i really dont see the reason why they wouldnt cut the leagues down? there will still be tons of teams left to buy if they do cut it down whereas now there are tons of teams available to buy but that will never change, its just eating up server space so i dont see any negative from this...
Some feedback was provided to the OP, but it wasn't all that well received. Suppose it would of been better if I just relayed more information here. OP has come around, though.

Originally posted by PM
Just wanted to let you know that I did bring up your suggestion in regards to going up to vote. Catch is hesitant, wanting to see the suggestion be more well thought out with actual ideas as to how said suggestion would work and be implemented.
So, by all means do not be discouraged. Treat this as a step away from being up for vote. Personally I would revise your OP and lean on flexible structure, almost mimicking what we see in the regular leagues. That's the most practical and dynamic as opposed to a rigid structure. I obviously dove in a bit on my first post in your thread.
Originally posted by Mat McBriar
Or just do PeeWee and PeeWee Gold/Elite. The quantity of PeeWee leagues being determined purely by demand.
Bort could just promote the best teams (determined by playoff success, record, past playoff success/record) from PeeWee to replace 8 teams in PeeWee Gold (keeping human teams at all costs, aka a 2nd place CPU team would demote while the 13th place human owned team would stay). Obviously is there were more than 8 CPU owned teams in Gold, Bort could make that adjustment.
tpat also mentioned something wise in the mod forum's "I think this is a good suggestion, what do you think?" thread.
Originally posted by tpaterniti
In peewee there is basically gold and everything else. The fact that you can buy any team any time in any tier makes the distinctions between copper and silver irrelevant. A huge improvement to peewee would be simply sorting all the human owned teams into leagues with each other on the last day of the offseason. But every peewee league ends up about the same. You have a few CPU teams, 2-4 teams in each division that know what they are doing, then everyone else.
Edited by Mat McBriar on Nov 10, 2011 14:52:16
Rizyx
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thanks for responding mat
im sure others will chime in but if we do keep the gold league we need to make sure there are no CPU's as it just ruins the league, CPU's should be in copper and silver if needs be but if you have CPU's in gold then it doesnt make it any different to the copper and silver leagues
im sure others will chime in but if we do keep the gold league we need to make sure there are no CPU's as it just ruins the league, CPU's should be in copper and silver if needs be but if you have CPU's in gold then it doesnt make it any different to the copper and silver leagues
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Keep the Gold league just make sure that there are no CPU teams....If there are, then someone in Pee Wee Gold should just be appointed to PM support with the team they think is the top ranked silver team to promote. I actually really love what tpaterniti said except for I would like to keep the gold league just sort the silver/copper to where all the human teams are put together. (This would also, in the future, allow you to see what leagues/how many can be deleted because they are all CPU)
Edited by The Greatest DTD on Nov 10, 2011 16:36:14
Edited by The Greatest DTD on Nov 10, 2011 16:35:28
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i agree with DTD, there are more than enough guys in PW gold that would be willing to help promote and demote teams fairly if CPU's do get into gold.
also i would like to see all the human teams in one league but i dont think there would be enough teams to make it equal throughout silver, so you would get silver 1 maybe full and then silver 2 with 3-4 teams human and the rest CPU and then the rest of the leagues will be CPU, then problem being if you deleted all the CPU leagues you will end up with maybe 1 gold league and possibly 2 silver leagues, which leaves no room for new agents/owners to come in and get a feel for PW without getting smashed every game
if you could go by using last seasons record that might be better, so say you get 6 teams that went 13-3 then you put those guys in one league, then if you get 8 teams that went 14-1 then you put them into one league etc might make it fairer for everyone then?
also i would like to see all the human teams in one league but i dont think there would be enough teams to make it equal throughout silver, so you would get silver 1 maybe full and then silver 2 with 3-4 teams human and the rest CPU and then the rest of the leagues will be CPU, then problem being if you deleted all the CPU leagues you will end up with maybe 1 gold league and possibly 2 silver leagues, which leaves no room for new agents/owners to come in and get a feel for PW without getting smashed every game
if you could go by using last seasons record that might be better, so say you get 6 teams that went 13-3 then you put those guys in one league, then if you get 8 teams that went 14-1 then you put them into one league etc might make it fairer for everyone then?
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Here is an idea proposed in the Pee Wee forum....I absolutely love this idea +1 to this
Originally posted by keltco
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro)
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
8 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper)....8 Champions = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Edit: Somewhere between Pro and Semi-Pro there would be room for cpu teams to be demoted. -2-4?
Originally posted by keltco
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro)
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
8 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper)....8 Champions = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.

Edit: Somewhere between Pro and Semi-Pro there would be room for cpu teams to be demoted. -2-4?
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Originally posted by The Greatest DTD
Here is an idea proposed in the Pee Wee forum....I absolutely love this idea +1 to this
Originally posted by keltco
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro)
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
8 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper)....8 Champions = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Edit: Somewhere between Pro and Semi-Pro there would be room for cpu teams to be demoted. -2-4?Love it!
Here is an idea proposed in the Pee Wee forum....I absolutely love this idea +1 to this
Originally posted by keltco
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro)
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
8 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper)....8 Champions = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.

Edit: Somewhere between Pro and Semi-Pro there would be room for cpu teams to be demoted. -2-4?Love it!
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1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro)
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
4 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper).... 2Championship game teams = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Dropped 4 leagues. These can be added back in at a later time if needed. (doubt it)
This drops 6 leagues total. Support whould have to group all the human owned teams together for this to work as well.
I also say teams should be randomly re-ordered in each league each season.
Edit: It was suggested that there we're still to many teams. I dropped 4 Minor teams.
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
4 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper).... 2Championship game teams = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Dropped 4 leagues. These can be added back in at a later time if needed. (doubt it)
This drops 6 leagues total. Support whould have to group all the human owned teams together for this to work as well.
I also say teams should be randomly re-ordered in each league each season.
Edit: It was suggested that there we're still to many teams. I dropped 4 Minor teams.
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