People just don't want to join a league where players look like blind people running around in circles that they have to retire the next season.
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Originally posted by zmj44
Lmao ManOgwa you are a fucking idiot...lol, you just added in "may be coordinating some other teams too from what I gather"....youve actually won stupidest comment of the year with that...it takes enough work with one team, two is enough...and IT IS lolsilver
You are just pissed because you haven't won your lolsilverleague in like 5 tries.
What you gather? OOOOOOO YOUR AMAZING SOURCES THAT YOU HAVE ROFLMAO
YES! ...YOU ARE THE BIGGEST PIG OF THEM ALL!
...so that is the respect you have for silver is it? ...that why you involved with so many teams innit? ...you just butt hurt over me telling the truth! ...you know as well as I do that it not so difficult DCing for more than one peewee team ...just gotta do the same adjustments to each team ...it just takes a bit more time to do it! ...I dun need sources finding out shit about you ~ i just go look under the nearest rock coz you got shit stashed everywhere! ...I'm not in any hurry about leaving the silver leagues coz it too expensive for me to have a team in gold! ...I dun need to feed my ego by winning championships! ...speaking of championships, where is your gold league one? ...you're coordinator on so many teams there and have been up there for long enough, and still haven't even won a conference championship yet?!? ...hey at least I have one of those for my time in gold as DC! ...I never needed to be on multiple gold teams to get it either
Lmao ManOgwa you are a fucking idiot...lol, you just added in "may be coordinating some other teams too from what I gather"....youve actually won stupidest comment of the year with that...it takes enough work with one team, two is enough...and IT IS lolsilver
You are just pissed because you haven't won your lolsilverleague in like 5 tries.
What you gather? OOOOOOO YOUR AMAZING SOURCES THAT YOU HAVE ROFLMAO
YES! ...YOU ARE THE BIGGEST PIG OF THEM ALL!
...so that is the respect you have for silver is it? ...that why you involved with so many teams innit? ...you just butt hurt over me telling the truth! ...you know as well as I do that it not so difficult DCing for more than one peewee team ...just gotta do the same adjustments to each team ...it just takes a bit more time to do it! ...I dun need sources finding out shit about you ~ i just go look under the nearest rock coz you got shit stashed everywhere! ...I'm not in any hurry about leaving the silver leagues coz it too expensive for me to have a team in gold! ...I dun need to feed my ego by winning championships! ...speaking of championships, where is your gold league one? ...you're coordinator on so many teams there and have been up there for long enough, and still haven't even won a conference championship yet?!? ...hey at least I have one of those for my time in gold as DC! ...I never needed to be on multiple gold teams to get it either

Edited by ManOgwaR on Apr 9, 2011 06:10:12
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Originally posted by ManOgwaR
current gold league pigs at the trough:
Rizyx
Gold League ~> Assistant OC of Crazytown Invisible Killer Clowns
Gold League ~> Assistant OC of SAS Chicken Stranglers
Silver League #3 ~> HC of EMPIRE ™, which is in 5th place and prolly will make the playoffs
Silver League #7 ~> OC of None (Free Agent), which is in 3rd place
Silver League #8 ~> Owner of South Texas Border Patrol, which is in 8th place and prolly will make the playoffs
Copper League #4 ~> Owner of Slaughterville Mayhem, which is undefeated
Really me?
Assistant OC of Crazytown Invisible Killer Clowns - I literally do nothing, last season in silver i helped scout for them so the owner put me at Assistant OC and has left me there but is welcome to delete me from the team if he wants
Assistant OC of SAS Chicken Stranglers - Again i do nothing, the owner put me there as our old OC would sometimes be unable to make the games so i would take over for that one game, again is welcome in taking me off the team
and the rest really? 3 silver teams neither of which are undefeated and arent exactly dominating, and one of them is pretty much CPU!? and then the copper team i have nothing to do with just the owner with a goal of making it 40-0 into gold
i have no idea what you are trying to say but you cant blame the coordinators for trying to help teams out? and saying that we are trying to fill our egos is a little
but why do you just blame the coordinators? most of the time silver/copper teams dont want unknowns/newbie coordinators taking over because of the fact they might be garbage! you cant just blame the coordinators you have to look at the teams employing the coordinators aswell
sorry if ive completely missed the point but its boring in the silver league forums so thought id chime in lol
current gold league pigs at the trough:
Rizyx
Gold League ~> Assistant OC of Crazytown Invisible Killer Clowns
Gold League ~> Assistant OC of SAS Chicken Stranglers
Silver League #3 ~> HC of EMPIRE ™, which is in 5th place and prolly will make the playoffs
Silver League #7 ~> OC of None (Free Agent), which is in 3rd place
Silver League #8 ~> Owner of South Texas Border Patrol, which is in 8th place and prolly will make the playoffs
Copper League #4 ~> Owner of Slaughterville Mayhem, which is undefeated
Really me?
Assistant OC of Crazytown Invisible Killer Clowns - I literally do nothing, last season in silver i helped scout for them so the owner put me at Assistant OC and has left me there but is welcome to delete me from the team if he wants

Assistant OC of SAS Chicken Stranglers - Again i do nothing, the owner put me there as our old OC would sometimes be unable to make the games so i would take over for that one game, again is welcome in taking me off the team
and the rest really? 3 silver teams neither of which are undefeated and arent exactly dominating, and one of them is pretty much CPU!? and then the copper team i have nothing to do with just the owner with a goal of making it 40-0 into gold
i have no idea what you are trying to say but you cant blame the coordinators for trying to help teams out? and saying that we are trying to fill our egos is a little
but why do you just blame the coordinators? most of the time silver/copper teams dont want unknowns/newbie coordinators taking over because of the fact they might be garbage! you cant just blame the coordinators you have to look at the teams employing the coordinators aswellsorry if ive completely missed the point but its boring in the silver league forums so thought id chime in lol
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Originally posted by Rizyx
Assistant OC of Crazytown Invisible Killer Clowns - I literally do nothing, last season in silver i helped scout for them so the owner put me at Assistant OC and has left me there but is welcome to delete me from the team if he wants
Assistant OC of SAS Chicken Stranglers - Again i do nothing, the owner put me there as our old OC would sometimes be unable to make the games so i would take over for that one game, again is welcome in taking me off the team
you still have access those AIs, which says enough combined with the other teams that you are involved with to make you qualify for the list!
Assistant OC of Crazytown Invisible Killer Clowns - I literally do nothing, last season in silver i helped scout for them so the owner put me at Assistant OC and has left me there but is welcome to delete me from the team if he wants

Assistant OC of SAS Chicken Stranglers - Again i do nothing, the owner put me there as our old OC would sometimes be unable to make the games so i would take over for that one game, again is welcome in taking me off the team
you still have access those AIs, which says enough combined with the other teams that you are involved with to make you qualify for the list!
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i dont have access to crazytown never have done and i used to for SAS havnt even checked to see if i still have or not
i can kinda see what your saying but you cant just blame the coordinators for taking these jobs, you have to look at the teams that are asking, often in the forums you will see team needing OC then in the thread the owner asks that the candidate is experienced or has trophies etc how is a new OC supposed to get a chance if all the teams arent willing to give them one?
i can kinda see what your saying but you cant just blame the coordinators for taking these jobs, you have to look at the teams that are asking, often in the forums you will see team needing OC then in the thread the owner asks that the candidate is experienced or has trophies etc how is a new OC supposed to get a chance if all the teams arent willing to give them one?
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Originally posted by ManOgwaR
YES! ...YOU ARE THE BIGGEST PIG OF THEM ALL!
...so that is the respect you have for silver is it? ...that why you involved with so many teams innit? ...you just butt hurt over me telling the truth! ...you know as well as I do that it not so difficult DCing for more than one peewee team ...just gotta do the same adjustments to each team ...it just takes a bit more time to do it! ...I dun need sources finding out shit about you ~ i just go look under the nearest rock coz you got shit stashed everywhere! ...I'm not in any hurry about leaving the silver leagues coz it too expensive for me to have a team in gold! ...I dun need to feed my ego by winning championships! ...speaking of championships, where is your gold league one? ...you're coordinator on so many teams there and have been up there for long enough, and still haven't even won a conference championship yet?!? ...hey at least I have one of those for my time in gold as DC! ...I never needed to be on multiple gold teams to get it either
The truth that I DC so many teams??? OH NO I DC SO MANY TEAMS THE TRUTH BURNS!!!
I DC 2 gold teams and a silver team...the others are LOL titles or I set up an AI and leave...
I lolgm two other gold teams...you think they would actually want me seeing their AIs? thats fucking stupid man...
If so many teams is 2...then what is happening with this? I've been to back to back conference championships and fucked up in both of them...also if long enough is 2+ seasons then what the fuck are you talking about?
YES! ...YOU ARE THE BIGGEST PIG OF THEM ALL!
...so that is the respect you have for silver is it? ...that why you involved with so many teams innit? ...you just butt hurt over me telling the truth! ...you know as well as I do that it not so difficult DCing for more than one peewee team ...just gotta do the same adjustments to each team ...it just takes a bit more time to do it! ...I dun need sources finding out shit about you ~ i just go look under the nearest rock coz you got shit stashed everywhere! ...I'm not in any hurry about leaving the silver leagues coz it too expensive for me to have a team in gold! ...I dun need to feed my ego by winning championships! ...speaking of championships, where is your gold league one? ...you're coordinator on so many teams there and have been up there for long enough, and still haven't even won a conference championship yet?!? ...hey at least I have one of those for my time in gold as DC! ...I never needed to be on multiple gold teams to get it either

The truth that I DC so many teams??? OH NO I DC SO MANY TEAMS THE TRUTH BURNS!!!
I DC 2 gold teams and a silver team...the others are LOL titles or I set up an AI and leave...
I lolgm two other gold teams...you think they would actually want me seeing their AIs? thats fucking stupid man...
If so many teams is 2...then what is happening with this? I've been to back to back conference championships and fucked up in both of them...also if long enough is 2+ seasons then what the fuck are you talking about?
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Originally posted by ManOgwaR
there are only 4 pigs at the trough imo! ...the rest are just noted under the criteria that I used that made them qualify for a mention
I think the bigger problem is that coordinators come to Pee Wee with there upper level AI. They just don't work here. I have three sets of custom plays one for Pee Wee one for mid-level teams and one for the upper-level teams. So they come to Pee Wee stay for a season or two they leave. Its a lot of work getting a Dot with no vision low agility and no stamina to go where you want them. Also lets say I am new to the game where do I learn how to set up an AI. You can't set one up with out being a coordinator for a team. What they need to do is let people be able to set up there own AI and Custom plays. Then someone can ask another coordinator to take a look at it and Help them with there AI and custom plays. Not look at mine and maybe take it.
there are only 4 pigs at the trough imo! ...the rest are just noted under the criteria that I used that made them qualify for a mention
I think the bigger problem is that coordinators come to Pee Wee with there upper level AI. They just don't work here. I have three sets of custom plays one for Pee Wee one for mid-level teams and one for the upper-level teams. So they come to Pee Wee stay for a season or two they leave. Its a lot of work getting a Dot with no vision low agility and no stamina to go where you want them. Also lets say I am new to the game where do I learn how to set up an AI. You can't set one up with out being a coordinator for a team. What they need to do is let people be able to set up there own AI and Custom plays. Then someone can ask another coordinator to take a look at it and Help them with there AI and custom plays. Not look at mine and maybe take it.
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Glad to see someone besides myself finally noticed something I've pointed out since, what, season 14?
But, at this point you guys are actually pointing the finger at the wrong thing...
Does whoring yourself all over the place cause a negative impact on the peewee leagues in general, hell yes.
Does handing people AIs that they will use without reason and never make a positive change to pretty much inhibit them not only from ever really enjoying the game, but ever getting better at it, hell yes.
Is that why peewee is now a crock of shit, hell no.
Peewee has and always will be limited by the fact that the difference between a boosting team and a nonboosting team is far greater than that of any of the other leagues (besides the Rookie leagues, which are actually much worse off than the others since the induction of level 4 leagues).
Let me explain: If you don't boost in the peewee league then compared to a team who fully boost you are at at least a 20% (being gracious here, its probably actually higher) disadvantage over this team in player quality. Add in custom equipment and you are talking a 30% (even MORE gracious here) disadvantage over the fully boosted fully custom team.
The other leagues have a process of promotion and demotion that over time allows them to play against teams that are all within a 10% or less variance of one another. This means that a coordinator only really has to out-coach another player to stand a chance in the game, I mean we all know this game is a game that is also luck based, as every outcome is effected by 100 "rolls" that on any odd day could just hit "yes" in your favor; but, does this opportunity actually exist when your 30% behind your opponents in the game, hell no.
My point is that right now, as it has been for some time, you can and will buy a silver league (at least silver) trophy if you boost your entire team, because even vs coordinators whom have proven themselves in Gold time and time again can not overcome a 30% disadvantage. This means that whether GLB wants to admit it or not the game is NOT free to play at the peewee level no matter how many people you recruit to join your team... and it never will be free.
What!!!? It isn't free and that is ruining the game?... No.... the point is that this game has always relied on a free user experience lasting long enough to allow one to work past the extremely "nerdy" outlook of this game to find its core value. In peewee, and Rookie leagues where users are not given this experience the appeal of the game absolutely just doesn't exist to those that haven't already been playing for a long time.
The point I've made a thousand times in the past, and a point I will continue to relay in my 2 post per week I'm allotted by my dignity, until a team who does not boost has a chance to beat a team that does boost in the Peewee leagues, the peewee league will continue to shrink in user-base over time until it dissipates completely, and in time GLB along with it because of this actually exaggerated effect in Rookie leagues.
But, at this point you guys are actually pointing the finger at the wrong thing...
Does whoring yourself all over the place cause a negative impact on the peewee leagues in general, hell yes.
Does handing people AIs that they will use without reason and never make a positive change to pretty much inhibit them not only from ever really enjoying the game, but ever getting better at it, hell yes.
Is that why peewee is now a crock of shit, hell no.
Peewee has and always will be limited by the fact that the difference between a boosting team and a nonboosting team is far greater than that of any of the other leagues (besides the Rookie leagues, which are actually much worse off than the others since the induction of level 4 leagues).
Let me explain: If you don't boost in the peewee league then compared to a team who fully boost you are at at least a 20% (being gracious here, its probably actually higher) disadvantage over this team in player quality. Add in custom equipment and you are talking a 30% (even MORE gracious here) disadvantage over the fully boosted fully custom team.
The other leagues have a process of promotion and demotion that over time allows them to play against teams that are all within a 10% or less variance of one another. This means that a coordinator only really has to out-coach another player to stand a chance in the game, I mean we all know this game is a game that is also luck based, as every outcome is effected by 100 "rolls" that on any odd day could just hit "yes" in your favor; but, does this opportunity actually exist when your 30% behind your opponents in the game, hell no.
My point is that right now, as it has been for some time, you can and will buy a silver league (at least silver) trophy if you boost your entire team, because even vs coordinators whom have proven themselves in Gold time and time again can not overcome a 30% disadvantage. This means that whether GLB wants to admit it or not the game is NOT free to play at the peewee level no matter how many people you recruit to join your team... and it never will be free.
What!!!? It isn't free and that is ruining the game?... No.... the point is that this game has always relied on a free user experience lasting long enough to allow one to work past the extremely "nerdy" outlook of this game to find its core value. In peewee, and Rookie leagues where users are not given this experience the appeal of the game absolutely just doesn't exist to those that haven't already been playing for a long time.
The point I've made a thousand times in the past, and a point I will continue to relay in my 2 post per week I'm allotted by my dignity, until a team who does not boost has a chance to beat a team that does boost in the Peewee leagues, the peewee league will continue to shrink in user-base over time until it dissipates completely, and in time GLB along with it because of this actually exaggerated effect in Rookie leagues.
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Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
blah blah blah
Of course a douchenozzel like yourself that throws thousands of dollars at GLB every month would say "blah blah blah"
because that is the attitude of this community and that is why it won't change, ever.
blah blah blah
Of course a douchenozzel like yourself that throws thousands of dollars at GLB every month would say "blah blah blah"
because that is the attitude of this community and that is why it won't change, ever.
Originally posted by iStoner
Of course a douchenozzel like yourself that throws thousands of dollars at GLB every month would say "blah blah blah"
because that is the attitude of this community and that is why it won't change, ever.
I have hardly spent 1000 dollars on this game. No one cares about you or what you have to say. Go away troll.
Of course a douchenozzel like yourself that throws thousands of dollars at GLB every month would say "blah blah blah"
because that is the attitude of this community and that is why it won't change, ever.
I have hardly spent 1000 dollars on this game. No one cares about you or what you have to say. Go away troll.
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Originally posted by iStoner
Peewee has and always will be limited by the fact that the difference between a boosting team and a nonboosting team is far greater than that of any of the other leagues (besides the Rookie leagues, which are actually much worse off than the others since the induction of level 4 leagues).
since they went to age-based leagues, instead of level, no/no's are at more and more disadvantage the higher you go. 3 levels behind per season, pretty much...plus the EQ.
pee-wee is the "easiest" place for a no/no to win right now. Of course it isn't "easy" by any means.
Peewee has and always will be limited by the fact that the difference between a boosting team and a nonboosting team is far greater than that of any of the other leagues (besides the Rookie leagues, which are actually much worse off than the others since the induction of level 4 leagues).
since they went to age-based leagues, instead of level, no/no's are at more and more disadvantage the higher you go. 3 levels behind per season, pretty much...plus the EQ.
pee-wee is the "easiest" place for a no/no to win right now. Of course it isn't "easy" by any means.
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Originally posted by 1kwerdna
Originally posted by Rizyx
1. i have nothing to do with
2. just the owner with a goal of making it 40-0 into gold
???
Originally posted by Rizyx
1. i have nothing to do with
2. just the owner with a goal of making it 40-0 into gold
???
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Originally posted by The Eagle
since they went to age-based leagues, instead of level, no/no's are at more and more disadvantage the higher you go. 3 levels behind per season, pretty much...plus the EQ.
pee-wee is the "easiest" place for a no/no to win right now. Of course it isn't "easy" by any means.
Its all in the hips, its all in the hips.
My point is that given an even playing field to start boosting makes the most impact at the lower level since the boosted levels represent a higher percent of the given players total value.
If GLB can't get their promotion stuff worked out where they provide a somewhat even playing field to start in upper leagues it isn't because of a flaw in their design but rather their implementation of it. But, here in peewee where the field always starts out even, you can no doubt buy a trophy by boosting for a single season; something that can't be mimicked anywhere else outside of the Rookie leagues.
Essentially, I don't disagree with you because I haven't gone and looked at the Leagues to see how "even" they do start...
But it doesn't change the validity of the statement.
since they went to age-based leagues, instead of level, no/no's are at more and more disadvantage the higher you go. 3 levels behind per season, pretty much...plus the EQ.
pee-wee is the "easiest" place for a no/no to win right now. Of course it isn't "easy" by any means.
Its all in the hips, its all in the hips.
My point is that given an even playing field to start boosting makes the most impact at the lower level since the boosted levels represent a higher percent of the given players total value.
If GLB can't get their promotion stuff worked out where they provide a somewhat even playing field to start in upper leagues it isn't because of a flaw in their design but rather their implementation of it. But, here in peewee where the field always starts out even, you can no doubt buy a trophy by boosting for a single season; something that can't be mimicked anywhere else outside of the Rookie leagues.
Essentially, I don't disagree with you because I haven't gone and looked at the Leagues to see how "even" they do start...
But it doesn't change the validity of the statement.
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