yeahhhhh citing scrims is funny
no one will ever truly know who the best pro team is each season. who expected Odessa to be #1 in zeta?
no one will ever truly know who the best pro team is each season. who expected Odessa to be #1 in zeta?
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NiborRis
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Originally posted by zero
hmmmm counterpoint: Lincoln is top 4 in Alpha
Counter-counterpoint: Maybe MPHD was the best pro team S18.
hmmmm counterpoint: Lincoln is top 4 in Alpha
Counter-counterpoint: Maybe MPHD was the best pro team S18.
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Originally posted by NiborRis
Originally posted by zero
hmmmm counterpoint: Lincoln is top 4 in Alpha
Counter-counterpoint: Maybe MPHD was the best pro team S18.
Probably not...we were level 70 across the board last season and Lincoln had quite a few 72s.
Also, we were not optimized for the deep-pass/interception lottery...we are definitely better suited for this season's sim.
Originally posted by zero
hmmmm counterpoint: Lincoln is top 4 in Alpha
Counter-counterpoint: Maybe MPHD was the best pro team S18.
Probably not...we were level 70 across the board last season and Lincoln had quite a few 72s.
Also, we were not optimized for the deep-pass/interception lottery...we are definitely better suited for this season's sim.
Edited by tautology on Dec 21, 2010 11:32:07
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i'd say it was lincoln, they went deep in a bunch of tournies along with going 20-0 in regular season.
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Originally posted by zero
yeahhhhh citing scrims is funny
I like how people downplay scrimmages after they lose them.
yeahhhhh citing scrims is funny
I like how people downplay scrimmages after they lose them.
NiborRis
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Originally posted by tautology
Probably not...we were level 70 across the board last season and Lincoln had quite a few 72s.
Also, we were not optimized for the deep-pass/interception lottery...we are definitely better suited for this season's sim.
Agree, probably not - which is why season 19 success in WL isn't really a very good yardstick for determining the best S18 Pro team.
Probably not...we were level 70 across the board last season and Lincoln had quite a few 72s.
Also, we were not optimized for the deep-pass/interception lottery...we are definitely better suited for this season's sim.
Agree, probably not - which is why season 19 success in WL isn't really a very good yardstick for determining the best S18 Pro team.
Originally posted by Victory Jones
theyre only lolscrims when you lose em
I think I can offer a good perspective. HHWC has lost some scrims/tourney games the last few seasons and we've won some tournaments as well as won and lost pro and WL playoff/championship games.
Without a doubt. Scrims are lolscrims because you don't know how much either team tries. In most cases teams could care less even in the final stages of tournaments because the whole showing your your cards thing. The only thing that matters in the end is playoff games. Pro or WL. That's the only time you are 100% sure that both teams are letting it all hang out.
We haven't gameplanned for a scrim probably ever and we've lost and won tournaments. They are very fun and entertaining to see how you play against teams outside your conference. But teams claiming to be the best Pro team evar based on scrims is just funny to most people. It's really about having fun, so let the disussion continue. Nobody will ever know who is trying until they meet in the playoffs
theyre only lolscrims when you lose em
I think I can offer a good perspective. HHWC has lost some scrims/tourney games the last few seasons and we've won some tournaments as well as won and lost pro and WL playoff/championship games.
Without a doubt. Scrims are lolscrims because you don't know how much either team tries. In most cases teams could care less even in the final stages of tournaments because the whole showing your your cards thing. The only thing that matters in the end is playoff games. Pro or WL. That's the only time you are 100% sure that both teams are letting it all hang out.
We haven't gameplanned for a scrim probably ever and we've lost and won tournaments. They are very fun and entertaining to see how you play against teams outside your conference. But teams claiming to be the best Pro team evar based on scrims is just funny to most people. It's really about having fun, so let the disussion continue. Nobody will ever know who is trying until they meet in the playoffs
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Originally posted by ufshowboat
But teams claiming to be the best Pro team evar based on scrims is just funny to most people.
Then "most people" aren't using their brains. Ranked scrimmages and tournaments are the only way that Pro teams can demonstrate quality now that Pro leagues themselves are so watered down. It's fair to say that they aren't equal to regular season games between World League teams, but again, Pro teams don't have that opportunity. And just for the record, Providence has had the same DAI all season long except for the Blaze tournament scrimmage, so it's not as if we beat HHWC and Alpine because we were trying while they weren't.
But teams claiming to be the best Pro team evar based on scrims is just funny to most people.
Then "most people" aren't using their brains. Ranked scrimmages and tournaments are the only way that Pro teams can demonstrate quality now that Pro leagues themselves are so watered down. It's fair to say that they aren't equal to regular season games between World League teams, but again, Pro teams don't have that opportunity. And just for the record, Providence has had the same DAI all season long except for the Blaze tournament scrimmage, so it's not as if we beat HHWC and Alpine because we were trying while they weren't.
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Originally posted by ufshowboat
I think I can offer a good perspective. HHWC has lost some scrims/tourney games the last few seasons and we've won some tournaments as well as won and lost pro and WL playoff/championship games.
Without a doubt. Scrims are lolscrims because you don't know how much either team tries. In most cases teams could care less even in the final stages of tournaments because the whole showing your your cards thing. The only thing that matters in the end is playoff games. Pro or WL. That's the only time you are 100% sure that both teams are letting it all hang out.
We haven't gameplanned for a scrim probably ever and we've lost and won tournaments. They are very fun and entertaining to see how you play against teams outside your conference. But teams claiming to be the best Pro team evar based on scrims is just funny to most people. It's really about having fun, so let the disussion continue. Nobody will ever know who is trying until they meet in the playoffs
That's a long post for someone who supposedly doesn't try.
I think I can offer a good perspective. HHWC has lost some scrims/tourney games the last few seasons and we've won some tournaments as well as won and lost pro and WL playoff/championship games.
Without a doubt. Scrims are lolscrims because you don't know how much either team tries. In most cases teams could care less even in the final stages of tournaments because the whole showing your your cards thing. The only thing that matters in the end is playoff games. Pro or WL. That's the only time you are 100% sure that both teams are letting it all hang out.
We haven't gameplanned for a scrim probably ever and we've lost and won tournaments. They are very fun and entertaining to see how you play against teams outside your conference. But teams claiming to be the best Pro team evar based on scrims is just funny to most people. It's really about having fun, so let the disussion continue. Nobody will ever know who is trying until they meet in the playoffs
That's a long post for someone who supposedly doesn't try.
Originally posted by jdbolick
Then "most people" aren't using their brains. Ranked scrimmages and tournaments are the only way that Pro teams can demonstrate quality now that Pro leagues themselves are so watered down. It's fair to say that they aren't equal to regular season games between World League teams, but again, Pro teams don't have that opportunity. And just for the record, Providence has had the same DAI all season long except for the Blaze tournament scrimmage, so it's not as if we beat HHWC and Alpine because we were trying while they weren't.
Maybe you missed my point. Most teams don't try in scrims. And I think that is true when we won tournaments and when we lost tournaments. That's it.
Your team has shown they can beat good teams or at least match up with them. Mission accomplished. Just don't kid yourself with the best Pro team of all time crap.
Then "most people" aren't using their brains. Ranked scrimmages and tournaments are the only way that Pro teams can demonstrate quality now that Pro leagues themselves are so watered down. It's fair to say that they aren't equal to regular season games between World League teams, but again, Pro teams don't have that opportunity. And just for the record, Providence has had the same DAI all season long except for the Blaze tournament scrimmage, so it's not as if we beat HHWC and Alpine because we were trying while they weren't.
Maybe you missed my point. Most teams don't try in scrims. And I think that is true when we won tournaments and when we lost tournaments. That's it.
Your team has shown they can beat good teams or at least match up with them. Mission accomplished. Just don't kid yourself with the best Pro team of all time crap.
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Yea, scrims are kind of a lottery because a lot depends on the AI you had in place the previous game and if it matches up well with the team you're scrimming. If you just played a team that likes to pitch right a ton out of Iform in WL and planned for it and then the team you scrim likes to pitch left it could be bad news. Same for if you set your TE/HB/FB blocking for a team who doesn't like to blitz in certain situation/formations and then the team you scrim does. It goes both ways obviously but it's a crap shoot when the teams are relatively evenly matched.
I mean, i understand why the pro teams cling to them so desperately since it's all they really have with the exception of winning gold in their league but to expect people to bow before them is silly. Unfortunately, prov, jebs, rirw, shockers, etc... just have to wait till next season in WL
I mean, i understand why the pro teams cling to them so desperately since it's all they really have with the exception of winning gold in their league but to expect people to bow before them is silly. Unfortunately, prov, jebs, rirw, shockers, etc... just have to wait till next season in WL
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Ranked scrimmages and tournaments are the only way that Pro teams can demonstrate quality now that Pro leagues themselves are so watered down.
For the record I spent as much time on the regular season wl season as I did on the glb tourney, I treated all of the games equally.
Ranked scrimmages and tournaments are the only way that Pro teams can demonstrate quality now that Pro leagues themselves are so watered down.
For the record I spent as much time on the regular season wl season as I did on the glb tourney, I treated all of the games equally.
Originally posted by Dpride59
For the record I spent as much time on the regular season wl season as I did on the glb tourney, I treated all of the games equally.
Me too. But that's not saying anything as both are different than playoffs where everything is on the line.
For the record I spent as much time on the regular season wl season as I did on the glb tourney, I treated all of the games equally.
Me too. But that's not saying anything as both are different than playoffs where everything is on the line.
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