Warrior General Games

Originally posted by LordEvil


I see your smile....unfortunately, I still see a pic of Santa's workshop getting snowed on too....c'mon now....

Originally posted by Teh Haxx0rz
Season 10, retard.

My bad...it seemed like the point of the thread was testing how to make the passing game more (pun intended) "passable" in the Pee Wee leagues. So I put a link to my S10 PeeWee team where I threw the ball about 85% of the time (or at least that's what was in my offensive AI). I thought it might be helpful because I had great successes later in the year throwing the ball around.

If my post was out of line in any way, or not in line with the main point of the thread, I apologize for jumping in late.

Originally posted by CoachBradley
My bad...it seemed like the point of the thread was testing how to make the passing game more (pun intended) "passable" in the Pee Wee leagues. So I put a link to my S10 PeeWee team where I threw the ball about 85% of the time (or at least that's what was in my offensive AI). I thought it might be helpful because I had great successes later in the year throwing the ball around.

If my post was out of line in any way, or not in line with the main point of the thread, I apologize for jumping in late.

You clearly state how the reference you make is to season 10. It is now season 12, and quite a few changes have been made to the sim. Because of these changes, the season 10 info has become obsolete. Because it doesn't make sense to move backwards in the development of the sim, we need accurate and current data to update and progress from. After the changes have been made to the sim, we can test further to assess the effectiveness of said changes. The season 10 data just doesn't compare properly.

I understand where you are coming from. Plus, it's a better response than the highly intellectual "Season 10, retard" or something like that.

Has the passing game gotten better since season 10? I admit, I haven't been as involved in the PW leagues since then, so I truly don't know the answer. But if it hasn't, then it's probably not as obsolete as one might think. I wouldn't expect the sim development to move backwards, but if there were ways to be successful in Season 10 with the passing game and nothing has changed, then the sim really hasn't developed that much from season 10 as it is.

I have no problem standing back and letting those more well-versed in what has been going on handle it...I merely wanted to make the observation that in S10, I was able to get a PW passing game going.

10 was a great season for throwing the rock but since it has dropped off 10 fold.

Originally posted by LordEvil
10 was a great season for throwing the rock but since it has dropped off 10 fold.

Ah...gotcha. Then I'll stand by this statement:
Originally posted by CoachBradley
I have no problem standing back and letting those more well-versed in what has been going on handle it.

The passing was still pretty decent in 11, but in 12 it was awful. LE, do you have any stats on the Gold League overall passing completion percentage?

Originally posted by LordEvil
http://www.nflfever2.com/PeeWeePro/12passing.htm
http://www.nflfever2.com/PeeWeePro/11passing.htm

I knew there was a reason we kept you around....

Thanks man!

New game is being simmed with some updates. I have a deadline in real life so if someone has time to go through it and link any plays of note i.e. Complete passes that might not have happened previously in pee wee or passes that should have been caught, etc. that would help me go over it rather than watching the whole game.

That is in the interest of moving this along rapidly of course!

http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1528
Link to game.
Watching game now.

I watched the first quarter so far.
Problems so far is that the coverage from the Lbs is soft so its hard to gage for sure how good the passing game is. Also the core of the problems come from pressure and there is no blitzing in the 1st quarter so its really hard to say if it's better. When you get two solid DF clubs, they like to blitz the Cbs or the FS/SS and that leaves the Wr open for a few or one on one. In this game so far we don't have that set up. It looks better based off the fact some passes were completed in double coverage and one point triple coverage. I'll watch the rest and see if anything changes.

Early 3rd and 4th quarter had some LB blitzing up the gut which was nice to see. Overall the passing looks much better. Just curious to see how it works vs some really good pressure from the outsides. The HB pass is not worth using still but the WRs looked solid. I'm guessing there were some strength Wrs as I seen a few Cbs get flattened. Also saw a nice speed Wr that got open on a long ball. Nice completion. Thanks Darkus. Any chance I can give you a defense to test it out against. Use the same players just instead of cover two, cover 0 and blitz both corners?

That is the next stage to add a pee wee defense to see how it works with that. This was to test the baseline for the average player. Give me the defense and I will add it in.