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jprietman
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It actually seems like the rivalry between Alpha and Zeta is more powerful than ANY rivalry between any two teams in this league.

It might even be worse than the Antwerp-Rivals rivalry.
 
porky
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Originally posted by Shorteous
Originally posted by porky

Originally posted by The SSS


Monarchs experimented in that game against the Aggies, we had an OT playing TE and two TE's as the starting WR's.


I have been ignoring commments like this since that game, but come on seriously, I have always thought the Monarchs had alot more class than to blame a loss on the tactics and a couple of changes in a depth chart. Your owner doesn't keep doing this, so why are you? OT playing TE you did that the game before as well, so you experimented in your own league? TE have been proven to be effective receivers in GLB so that is not that far of a stretch either. We screwed with tactics too that game, but we all know that the last week was for bragging right between the conferences, not for a big messing around, but we all did some.

Could I blame every loss on some sort of tactic or depth chart change: Yes would it be accurate no, well maybe our last game
All this being said the Fat Aggie: diego has a point if you look at head to head in the regular season Zeta came out on the losing end of the stick, but next year will be a different ball game. Gig'em


How can you call out alpha for this, but everybody in zeta has been doing it. I have heard nothing but these games don't matter the 50-16 or what ever it was doesn't count because nobody is playing for real. Non of the wins alpha got that week counted because of this exact reason. You can call out the Monarchs for this, but must acknowledge the 75% win ratio buy alpha during this time. Otherwise STFU


Did you read my post? Obviously not, so maybe you should work on comprehension before youpost I went ahead and highlighted the parts for you.

1. I didn't not call out Alpha, in fact I said we were on the losing end of the stick
2. I was not calling out anybody just one player who keeps posting the same thing. I even justified it by saying the owner of the Monarchs doesn't do this
3. I can't remember any place where I talked shit about alpha after week 16
4. I think by saying we are on the losing end of the stick is acknowledging that we were on the losing end. Sorry I didn't say 75%
5. Also if you are refering to our last game, (which I don't think you are) then I do think we can blame that on something, but your owner and the rest of the league understood what was going on.
6. Finally, you should really read a post before you make stupid comment about shutting up. Move on and admit you were wrong
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jprietman
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It's getting heated up in here.

The following points, I agree with:

-Next year will be a different ball game.
-Scrimmage games = preseason
-The Rohrheim Stampede are the best team in the league.
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The SSS
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Originally posted by porky
Originally posted by The SSS

Monarchs experimented in that game against the Aggies, we had an OT playing TE and two TE's as the starting WR's.


I have been ignoring commments like this since that game, but come on seriously, I have always thought the Monarchs had alot more class than to blame a loss on the tactics and a couple of changes in a depth chart. Your owner doesn't keep doing this, so why are you? OT playing TE you did that the game before as well, so you experimented in your own league? TE have been proven to be effective receivers in GLB so that is not that far of a stretch either. We screwed with tactics too that game, but we all know that the last week was for bragging right between the conferences, not for a big messing around, but we all did some.

Could I blame every loss on some sort of tactic or depth chart change: Yes would it be accurate no, well maybe our last game
All this being said the Fat Aggie: diego has a point if you look at head to head in the regular season Zeta came out on the losing end of the stick, but next year will be a different ball game. Gig'em


Fine, I was at fault for that, the team do in general have more class than that and I may have been out of line for saying that especially if the Aggies beat us experimenting as well. You guys won the game, I'll happily move on and we can leave it at that.

 
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Originally posted by Boble
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...and yet, Reykjavík and Houston both gave the Stampede a better game than the undefeated 'Jacks did (and 3 other teams from Zeta beat them). The only significant week 16 game was Reykjavik/Monarchs, and who won that again? ...so to say Alpha is better than Zeta based on scrimmage games? All I can say to that is, "Whatever blows your skirt up, big fella."



I think the game against the Woo Jacks was likely the closest, perhaps the Scorgasms gave us the same fight, but both teams were within a drive at the right time of beating us.

About those 3 losses, take a look, we were 4-3, think why we lost, and what we did, ... not only that, but a team has to grow, and I believe .... ah well, yeah we lost some...who cares now.


I think the game against the roughnecks was the closest for you guys. We were at the 28 twice in the 4th and went for it...stupid! lol. We go for the FG it puts us down by 7, which we later scored in teh 4th so that would have taken us to OT and who knows what would have happened then..
 
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Originally posted by Boble
Originally posted by jwilliamsii


...and yet, Reykjavík and Houston both gave the Stampede a better game than the undefeated 'Jacks did (and 3 other teams from Zeta beat them). The only significant week 16 game was Reykjavik/Monarchs, and who won that again? ...so to say Alpha is better than Zeta based on scrimmage games? All I can say to that is, "Whatever blows your skirt up, big fella."



I think the game against the Woo Jacks was likely the closest, perhaps the Scorgasms gave us the same fight, but both teams were within a drive at the right time of beating us.

About those 3 losses, take a look, we were 4-3, think why we lost, and what we did, ... not only that, but a team has to grow, and I believe .... ah well, yeah we lost some...who cares now.


Yeah definitely. We sort of expected to lose to Bari and Valencia at the time, but that loss to the Oxford Eagles lit a fire under our asses and forced us to REALLY think about what really was going on. Sometimes it takes losing games in order to win games. If we hadn't lost to Oxford, we might have lost in the playoffs, because we'd still be playing under our OLD tactics.

 
porky
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SSS, Thanks! I have to say in all honesty if that game was played over and over I think the outcome would change just as frequently. The Monarchs are a very good team.
 
The SSS
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Originally posted by porky
SSS, Thanks! I have to say in all honesty if that game was played over and over I think the outcome would change just as frequently. The Monarchs are a very good team.


It was a fairly low scoring game as well, a Monarchs or an Aggies TD would have totally changed the reflection of the game, hopefully the two teams will have a re-match next season.
 
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Originally posted by TheSSS


To be fair, the Woo-Jacks did something they didn't all season and that was abandon the running game, they only ran the ball 15 times and they had been so effective in running the ball. Credit to Rohrheim though, they did beat the Woo-Jacks when nobody in Alpha could, we would like to change that next season.

3rd time lucky?



Actually up until our game against the monarchs late in the season we had rarely run over 40%.

And weve only had one win in OT.
And all of you out there saying this is better then that etc etc, prove it on the field win over some other teams instead of leeching of the stampedes greatness.
 
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Originally posted by DiegoKokomo
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DiegoKokomo can cry a lot, can't he?

"We are A TON better than you in ways you can't prove!!!"

2 seasons, 2 championships, and our top 6 teams will be top 8 teams next season. If Bari gets back to where they were, we'll have 9 teams in this division who are competing for the top seed.

None of that matters though. What matters is the championship record. Our #4 seed beat your #1.

God bless America. Zeta did what no one in Alpha could; beat the WuJacks.


Cry a lot? I used head-to-head records to show Alpha > Zeta and that's the best you can come up with? "We are A TON better than you in ways you can't prove!!!" What does that even mean?

As I said, Zeta had the best team this season. Who won the championship last year means nothing as to which conference was the best this season. Seeds don't matter for who won either, especially if you're trying to say that because the #4 seed won it that all that the 4 top teams in Zeta are better than anything in Alpha. That's like saying 5 teams in the NFC were better than the Patriots last year just because the Wild Card Giants won the Super Bowl...

Anyways, congrats to the Stampede on winning the championship and congrats to Alpha for being the best conference. Again, 50-16 record head-to-head.



It's simple. You decided that the scrimmage matches matter. You saying 'Look, we won in scrimmage matches' counts for as much as me saying 'Look, we have bigger stadiums! that makes us da bestest!'

You just lost. to our number 4 seed team. In 2 seasons, zeta holds 2 championships. your conference just got raped by a team that was AAA last season. But you think scrimmage matches should count?

That sure sounds like crying to everyone but you.
 
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Originally posted by jprietman
In my honest opinion...

I would do my WEPL Post-season Power Rankings Top 10 like this (based on all my scouting from this season)

1. Rohrheim Stampede (obviously, right?)
2. Multiple Scorgasms (underrated. Seriously.)
3. Woodridge Lumberjacks
4. Valhalla Vikings
5. Houston Roughnecks
6. NFLUK London Monarchs
7. NFLUK Wembley Warriors
8. Reykjavik Aggies
9. Aggieland Wrecking Crew
10. Valencia Billy Goats (should be tied with Aggieland Wrecking Crew though)


Thanks for that positioon at #2, but I'd put us lower than that. We beat some hard teams true, but we lost to Oslo, Houston, Rohrheim and Reykjavek. We went from pure shit last season to scary this season, but even I don't rank us objectively at 2.

Put us at 3 Lumberjacks move up one.
 
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I'm keeping my power rankings where they are. They aren't official anyway, its just how jprietman of the Rohrheim Stampede thinks of the top ten teams in the WEPL. I just happen to think that if we didn't beat you, you would have won it all.

The only spots I would consider switching are slots 6, 7 and 8. Reykjavik DID beat London today and I really didn't consider that (I'm still glowing about our own victory today).
 
The SSS
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Originally posted by jprietman
I'm keeping my power rankings where they are. They aren't official anyway, its just how jprietman of the Rohrheim Stampede thinks of the top ten teams in the WEPL. I just happen to think that if we didn't beat you, you would have won it all.

The only spots I would consider switching are slots 6, 7 and 8. Reykjavik DID beat London today and I really didn't consider that (I'm still glowing about our own victory today).


Not today, last game of the regular season.
 
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err i guess thats what i meant. sorry im way out of it today
 
The SSS
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Originally posted by jprietman
err i guess thats what i meant. sorry im way out of it today


Don't blame you, who wouldn't after winning the championship?

 
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