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23yrwej
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Originally posted by mocfam10
Originally posted by Galkuris

Honestly this debate is stupid. Comparing the two doesn't work.

MJD = fewer big plays but also few "failed" plays.

Earl = big play threat that often gets stuffed for nothing.


Every offense needs the first, if you don't have it you will not win a championship. Vice versa most offenses need the second as well. The trick is balancing them.


So MJD doesn't have the first because I see no gold trophies. Hmmm


He's won a Pro Championship.
 
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this thread is so lol
Edited by wsdp on Aug 11, 2009 19:09:01
 
23yrwej
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Originally posted by mocfam10
Originally posted by Galkuris

Honestly this debate is stupid. Comparing the two doesn't work.

MJD = fewer big plays but also few "failed" plays.

Earl = big play threat that often gets stuffed for nothing.


Every offense needs the first, you don't have it you will not win a championship. Vice versa most offenses need the second as well. The trick is balancing them.


I don't really have to reference the team page now do I? The point is that he purposefully manipulated stats to try and prove a point by only noting a few games, subjectively. Then he goes against his own word and says "Who won the game" When apparently, this was an individual conversation.

Then he went on to say earl was a scat back when he isn't. But because of the lack of concert proof, he assume's Earl is based off of how we used him. Discounting every earl has done up to Season 10. But I see your point.


No, I put out stats of Earl Maddox vs. the top USA Pro teams he played, in no way were they manipulated. I don't give a shit about what Earl did in AAA and AA, in USA Pro so far he's only been a Scat RB.

QQ more...
 
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Originally posted by wsdp
this thread is so lolOwner, Nashville Hounds (USA Pro) | http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=696


The hounds are so lol.
 
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Originally posted by jrry32
He's won a Pro Championship.


I don't see a team gold for MM or MJD. Can you link me to it?
 
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Originally posted by mocfam10
Originally posted by jrry32

He's won a Pro Championship.


I don't see a team gold for MM or MJD. Can you link me to it?


Galk said championship, it is a conference championship and MJD won one in EE Pro as well as me and Galk OCing MM to a USA Pro CC...but please, go talk about the Hounds league championship in USA AA meaning more than a Pro Silver so we can all laugh.
Edited by jrry32 on Aug 11, 2009 19:13:42
 
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Originally posted by jrry32
No, I put out stats of Earl Maddox vs. the top USA Pro teams he played, in no way were they manipulated. I don't give a shit about what Earl did in AAA and AA, in USA Pro so far he's only been a Scat RB.

QQ more...


A more accurate representation of a player's ability would be he full body of work. But I see where you fail to comprehend that logic.

Try harder much?
 
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Originally posted by jrry32
Galk said championship, it is a conference championship and MJD won one in EE Pro as well as me and Galk OCing MM to a USA Pro CC...but please, go talk about the Hounds league championship in USA AA meaning more than a Pro Silver so we can all laugh.


You brought up championships and team awards into this individual conversation. Come again now?

You're the only one getting off topic here...when it suits you. Maybe you should take your own advice.
Edited by mocfam10 on Aug 11, 2009 19:16:49
 
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Originally posted by mocfam10
Originally posted by jrry32

No, I put out stats of Earl Maddox vs. the top USA Pro teams he played, in no way were they manipulated. I don't give a shit about what Earl did in AAA and AA, in USA Pro so far he's only been a Scat RB.

QQ more...


A more accurate representation of a player's ability would be he full body of work. But I see where you fail to comprehend that logic.

Try harder much?


Mo Jones-Drew is the best RB in USA Pro because he ran for over 3200 yards and 64 TDs in EE Pro, that obviously tells you how awesome he is...

In GLB with the changing sim, a body of work is not an accurate representation especially when a team has moved up from leagues. Averaging 10 yards a carry in USA AAA =/= averaging 10 yards a carry in Pro so I'm not going to give a slight shit about how good he was in USA AAA because it was/is a much weaker league.
 
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Originally posted by mocfam10
Originally posted by jrry32

Galk said championship, it is a conference championship and MJD won one in EE Pro as well as me and Galk OCing MM to a USA Pro CC...but please, go talk about the Hounds league championship in USA AA meaning more than a Pro Silver so we can all laugh.


You brought up championships and team awards into this individual conversation. Come again now?

You're the only one getting off topic here...when it suits you. Maybe you should take your own advice.


Um no, you brought it up. Galkuris said you need both HBs for a championship and you then decided to talk about championships...do you have memory problems?
 
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This topic is chalk full of quality, insightful discussion.
 
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Originally posted by jrry32
Mo Jones-Drew is the best RB in USA Pro because he ran for over 3200 yards and 64 TDs in EE Pro, that obviously tells you how awesome he is...



No one has doubted MJD. lol. You discounted everyone else. Not me, not anyone else. You did. You said Earl was a scat back. You did...no one else did.

Originally posted by jrry32
In GLB with the changing sim, a body of work is not an accurate representation especially when a team has moved up from leagues. Averaging 10 yards a carry in USA AAA =/= averaging 10 yards a carry in Pro so I'm not going to give a slight shit about how good he was in USA AAA because it was/is a much weaker league.


point still stands. He's not a scat back like your claim. I don't see how that's hard to comprehend. Maybe you try harder?
 
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Originally posted by jrry32
Um no, you brought it up. Galkuris said you need both HBs for a championship and you then decided to talk about championships...do you have memory problems?


no....Galkuris brought it up. your teammates. Asses look alike...sorry.

Originally posted by Galkuris
Honestly this debate is stupid. Comparing the two doesn't work.

MJD = fewer big plays but also few "failed" plays.

Earl = big play threat that often gets stuffed for nothing.


Every offense needs the first, if you don't have it you will not win a championship. Vice versa most offenses need the second as well. The trick is balancing them.



Nice try though..I bolded it just in case you missed it on page 4...at the bottom



Edited by mocfam10 on Aug 11, 2009 19:24:47
Edited by mocfam10 on Aug 11, 2009 19:23:05
 
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Originally posted by mocfam10
Originally posted by jrry32

Mo Jones-Drew is the best RB in USA Pro because he ran for over 3200 yards and 64 TDs in EE Pro, that obviously tells you how awesome he is...



No one has doubted MJD. lol. You discounted everyone else. Not me, not anyone else. You did. You said Earl was a scat back. You did...no one else did.

Originally posted by jrry32

In GLB with the changing sim, a body of work is not an accurate representation especially when a team has moved up from leagues. Averaging 10 yards a carry in USA AAA =/= averaging 10 yards a carry in Pro so I'm not going to give a slight shit about how good he was in USA AAA because it was/is a much weaker league.


point still stands. He's not a scat back like your claim. I don't see how that's hard to comprehend. Maybe you try harder?


He was a Scat back last season...it's like you take that as something bad. Scat RB doesn't mean that you can't be a RB, it means that you are a RB that's used as a primary receiver out of the backfield. Not sure how you can deny that he is a scat RB, he led the West in receiving yards last season. MJD was used as a scat RB in S9.
 
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Originally posted by mocfam10
Originally posted by jrry32

Um no, you brought it up. Galkuris said you need both HBs for a championship and you then decided to talk about championships...do you have memory problems?


no....Galkuris brought it up. your teammates. Asses look alike...sorry.

Originally posted by Galkuris

Honestly this debate is stupid. Comparing the two doesn't work.

MJD = fewer big plays but also few "failed" plays.

Earl = big play threat that often gets stuffed for nothing.


Every offense needs the first, if you don't have it you will not win a championship. Vice versa most offenses need the second as well. The trick is balancing them.



Nice try though





That's exactly what I just said, Galkuris said a MJD type RB and a Maddox RB is key to a championship then you said you don't see a gold in MJD's trophy case...not really complicated...Galk said nothing about Maddox or MJD having or not having a champ, you started with it.
 
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