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I like the guide, but IMO FB is a position that allows for the most creativity in building, especially if a team is willing to carry 2 or preferably 3 FBs.

For example,

Team could have

FB #1 that is blocker for the power rusher and develops into a power running threat later in career
FB #2 that is blocker for elusive rusher and develops into pass catching/outside rushing FB

FB #2 wouldn't need much strength or blocking since he is going to be blocking OLBs and DBs and elusive backs don't need blocks to be held for a long time. This FB is only going to have about 60 strength and 40 blocking, but over 100 speed and 85 agility at higher levels. Will also need 60+ vision and capped catching and carrying.

FB #1 wouldn't need as much speed as a solo FB because he would be limited to blocking on inside running plays. This one you want to have 80 strength, 60+ blocking and carrying, 70+ speed and agility. Capped vision is probably all he will need.




There are other 2 FB combinations available

As long as there is the outside blocker VA, a blocking focused FB can block for pretty much any type of HB. Power running FBs can be a receiving threat just fine... granted they won't be total speed demons or anything, but max scat back is usually plenty.

My FB is doing just fine in SAPL as an offensive build. That's with zero slow building and having been a blocking build until S5 or so... I could only image what he would be doing if he wasn't built so inefficiently.

Last scrimmage, against one of the better GLB teams, he had 7 rushes for 96.5 yards and 2 receptions for 43.5 yards. That's 15.5 yards per touch against a top 100 team. My FB accounted for 35% of the team's total yardage on 18% of the team's touches (12% of the team's offensive plays). I'm averaging 7.4 yards per rush and 14.9 yards per reception this season.

There's really no point going so specialized, unless you want a gimmick player IMHO.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
I like the guide, but IMO FB is a position that allows for the most creativity in building, especially if a team is willing to carry 2 or preferably 3 FBs.

For example,

Team could have

FB #1 that is blocker for the power rusher and develops into a power running threat later in career
FB #2 that is blocker for elusive rusher and develops into pass catching/outside rushing FB

FB #2 wouldn't need much strength or blocking since he is going to be blocking OLBs and DBs and elusive backs don't need blocks to be held for a long time. This FB is only going to have about 60 strength and 40 blocking, but over 100 speed and 85 agility at higher levels. Will also need 60+ vision and capped catching and carrying.

FB #1 wouldn't need as much speed as a solo FB because he would be limited to blocking on inside running plays. This one you want to have 80 strength, 60+ blocking and carrying, 70+ speed and agility. Capped vision is probably all he will need.




There are other 2 FB combinations available

We think too much alike when it comes to builds. What would your 3rd FB be?

Originally posted by BansheeTime
Originally posted by Rage Kinard

I like the guide, but IMO FB is a position that allows for the most creativity in building, especially if a team is willing to carry 2 or preferably 3 FBs.

For example,

Team could have

FB #1 that is blocker for the power rusher and develops into a power running threat later in career
FB #2 that is blocker for elusive rusher and develops into pass catching/outside rushing FB

FB #2 wouldn't need much strength or blocking since he is going to be blocking OLBs and DBs and elusive backs don't need blocks to be held for a long time. This FB is only going to have about 60 strength and 40 blocking, but over 100 speed and 85 agility at higher levels. Will also need 60+ vision and capped catching and carrying.

FB #1 wouldn't need as much speed as a solo FB because he would be limited to blocking on inside running plays. This one you want to have 80 strength, 60+ blocking and carrying, 70+ speed and agility. Capped vision is probably all he will need.




There are other 2 FB combinations available

We think too much alike when it comes to builds. What would your 3rd FB be?

If I did 3 FBs - FB #1 wouldn't have 60 carrying. He would never touch it. Instead would have more agility and more strength or SAs.

FB #3 would be 80+ strength, 80+ speed, 70 agility, 61 carrying, capped vision and confidence, catching trained to around 30 and maxed out bruiser SA.

Or you could just make...

A) 1 FB who is built to block, but not built like a lineman.
B) 1 FB who is built to touch the ball.
C) Possibly 1 FB who is built to do a little of both, but only necessary on a team with stamina issues. Lots of teams use quite a bit of the formations that take the FB off the field.
D) Done.

The blocking FB would focus on blocking, strength, agility and speed... with 15 in outside blocker. The offensive FB would focus on strength, carrying, speed and agility... with 15 in bruiser and 15 in scat back (instead of touching blocking at all, they can work on catching).

Lookie there, all 3 roles of that 3 FBs set-up, in two players. Less headache trying to get everyone adequate playing time and much easier to deal with for the custom AI position slots.

That's in a perfect situation though. A balanced build can fill-in either spot, back-up both spots and play special teams, so it's a bit easier to find a job.

Overall the idea is nice in the world of theorycraft, but it's redundant/gimmicky in the world of GLB. It could work well in some situations, but it'll be a nightmare to manage correctly with the tools we possess. There's two FBs on my team, if not for special teams, I wouldn't get max XP... 3 FBs would be extremely hard to divide playing time for. Most OCs would rather have 2 FBs (blocking and offensive) and a 3rd/4th HB that is built to catch IMHO.

This is a great thread Warlock, I searched it out after your reference in the main forums.


One thought to consider however...

The offensive plays that make sense for a FB are of a different variety than those available to HBs, so their build should adjust to what makes them effective in an actual offense.

Originally posted by tautology
This is a great thread Warlock, I searched it out after your reference in the main forums.


One thought to consider however...

The offensive plays that make sense for a FB are of a different variety than those available to HBs, so their build should adjust to what makes them effective in an actual offense.

Thanks.

Any of the FB runs, require you to break tackles or have good/great blocking to truly be successful. I get hit in the backfield quite a bit, thank God for short yard monster.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=702453&pbp_id=1994888 unrequited bragging right here

but anyways i just rolled a +5% fake AE would that do me any good?

Originally posted by wontgodown
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=702453&pbp_id=1994888 unrequited bragging right here

but anyways i just rolled a +5% fake AE would that do me any good?

+% fake is no good for a FB IMHO.

Add a short description in the attribute section letting people know the pros/cons of investing in certain attributes earlier than others.

The way it reads, someone could think speed was the next best thing to take to 68 after strength...

Originally posted by shull
Add a short description in the attribute section letting people know the pros/cons of investing in certain attributes earlier than others.

The way it reads, someone could think speed was the next best thing to take to 68 after strength...

Well, I'm not really telling people how to build, only giving a general synopsis of the fullback position. There's more than enough building guides out there, which is what your point really falls under... the only reason speed is low on the priority list for many is due to the leveling increases. Thus, while I may think it's best to build a player by abusing leveling increases, I'm not giving an actual build plan... it's more of a philosophy and understanding of the position.

Bump because this is still the best thread on FBing yet.

Warlock - working out a long term build for my new FB....76 str, 106 speed...or 82 str, 100 speed if you are looking at him once he gets to the Pro/WL level. Assuming all other offensive stuff is taken care of. Just trying to balance speed and strength for a pass catching/outside running type FB.

A season 2 FB,I just boost this guy by my FP since season 10. He spent most of his time on the bench. But he will play USAP this season.

Strength:73.15 (+7)
Blocking:34.6
Speed:89.07 (+21)
Agility:80.63 (+9)
Jumping:42
Catching:51.77 (+2)
Stamina:40.47
Carrying:61.74
Vision:56.42
Confidence:50.97

Offensive Abilities 4-5-12-7-5
Veteran Abilities
15 Bruiser
5 Scatback
15 SYM
15 Tenacious

An offensive FB should pass Dive 4 Yds,no use,VA Shed Weight and Tenacious could do better.

Is 92 Strength on an Rushing FB overkill?