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Originally posted by Clutch24
every teams nomination will be 1 RB, 1 QB and 1 WR

I disagree with that. I think you should give us owners and GMs a little bit more credit.

Not every QB out there has a 90+ QB rating and those teams are well aware of that.

Why would we nominate our QB if we know he's just going to go up against guys like Corey Smith and Beo Wulf (and probably get demolished in voting, no offense to MissionCoach)

Nobody notices the Aggies' 2nd string QB, Daroc Slinger. But if he was nominated, people would definitely take a good look at him, as they should.

If the Stampede's left tackle, AJ Miller has led the entire league in pancakes for much of the season, I think he has a good chance of making the final squad. Why wouldn't we nominate him?

I think the easiest way would be for every owner should fill out the form posted earlier, I don't care if you can pick your own players or not but it seems that most of you don't want that, so I suggest we don't. No need to complicate things too much, I have faith in the owners of this league being somewhat levelheaded and fair.

I like the list idea and every owner fills it out with players they feel are the best. If someone is voted 1st team they get 2 points 2nd team gets 1. As for OPOY and DPOY and MVP. Every owner should nominate one person from their team for each catagory and then all the owners vote on each one. If you want someone to keep tallie for Alpha I will be more than willing to do so I play for the Knights but I will be honest. But if you don't trust me since I am in Alpha, I can do Zeta.

Originally posted by dubduece22
But if you don't trust me since I am in Alpha, I can do Zeta.

That might not be such a bad idea. I don't think anyone on here would be stupid enough to change the votes or anything, but having someone from Zeta count the Alpha votes and vice versa might instill a little more confidence in the process.

I'll count up Zeta if you like?

Also I suggest Each team votes on a full team from the opposition, and are also allowed to nominate one player from these groups.

1 from QB WR or HB

1 From OL FB or TE

1 from DL or LB

1 from CB FS or SS

1 from K P KR/PR Or Special teams coverage unit.

For next season, the oppostion votes in the same categories for each game, if a team do not submit a vote then an owner may nominate his own team as well?

Then at the end of the season we total it all up???

Originally posted by jprietman
Originally posted by Clutch24

every teams nomination will be 1 RB, 1 QB and 1 WR

I disagree with that. I think you should give us owners and GMs a little bit more credit.

Not every QB out there has a 90+ QB rating and those teams are well aware of that.

Why would we nominate our QB if we know he's just going to go up against guys like Corey Smith and Beo Wulf (and probably get demolished in voting, no offense to MissionCoach)

Nobody notices the Aggies' 2nd string QB, Daroc Slinger. But if he was nominated, people would definitely take a good look at him, as they should.

If the Stampede's left tackle, AJ Miller has led the entire league in pancakes for much of the season, I think he has a good chance of making the final squad. Why wouldn't we nominate him?

Damn...you mean no sim trip to Hawaii for Gunn Slinger...that sucks, lol

Seriously, no offense taken jprietman.

Obviously Gunn Slinger plays in a more balanced Offense, than let's say a QB like Corey Smith, who plays on a team where the passing game is featured....it's apples and oranges.


However, if you are talking backup QB's, don't overlook Ace N'Thehole either, with a 91.5 QB rating.


Shouldn't the Allstar voting also include Coach of the Year?

I am not trying to be the guy who disagrees with everybody but we are trying to create something new so debate is the only way to sort everything out. Seriously though guys we have now gone to the extent of considering a backup player for all-star consideration. I do agree with you all that stats are not the only thing but come on, a backup. Nothing against the guy at all but he is a backup. These guys are not even first team on their own team how can they be considered first team in our outstanding league! I think everybody has a very skewed perception of what an all-star is but that is why it is something we will vote on. If we did do the nomination way that you guys have proposed I think the starting QB on that team should feel pretty damn shafted if his owner nominates the backup QB over him. Just my opinion.

Riot I was not mad at all buddy, I was confused because I didn't think I was sounding immature.

There are valuable players to every team that without them, the team just wouldn't the same. They could even be backups or not fill up the stat sheet.

But look, a Pro Bowl team is filled with players who are the best at their position. You cannot seriously think that a 2nd string player is a better player and who is more deserving of being called an All-Star, than a starter on another team.

There are 16 teams in each conference. We're not going to have a problem finding starters to be All Stars.

I like the idea of having a brief statement for each player that is up for consideration.

Stats are certainly 1 factor, but not everything is as it appears.

A shutdown corner will not have gaudy stats because nobody is throwing to his side.

You're never gonna get it perfect...but it's still a cool idea.

Originally posted by cajik
There are valuable players to every team that without them, the team just wouldn't the same. They could even be backups or not fill up the stat sheet.

But look, a Pro Bowl team is filled with players who are the best at their position. You cannot seriously think that a 2nd string player is a better player and who is more deserving of being called an All-Star, than a starter on another team.

There are 16 teams in each conference. We're not going to have a problem finding starters to be All Stars.

amen brotha.. i got a quick question.. take DE's for example.. RDE don't have the same production of a LDE for the fact that a lot GLB rushes goto the strong side off the TE.. we should take this into consideration when picking players to represent each position.. instead of taking the best 4 DE which may all result in LDE being chosen.. take the top 2 playmakers from each position... just a thought... same could be said for DT and NT.. it might just be the fact that my DT is a beast http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=60188 when you compare him to my NT it's not even close

Originally posted by cajik
There are valuable players to every team that without them, the team just wouldn't the same. They could even be backups or not fill up the stat sheet.

But look, a Pro Bowl team is filled with players who are the best at their position. You cannot seriously think that a 2nd string player is a better player and who is more deserving of being called an All-Star, than a starter on another team.

There are 16 teams in each conference. We're not going to have a problem finding starters to be All Stars.

I couldn't agree more, we are picking an all-star team not the all-hustle team.

Late to the discussion I'm afraid, but I'll jump in regardless While I do like the overall idea, I am honestly not sure I could nominate the full list of players that was posted earlier. I simply do not have the time to analyze each teams offensive line play into detail for instance, so I would feel really uncomfortable putting names on to the ballot that I have seen play only a couple of times. likewise I do not think stats tell the whole story, espcially not when it comes to stats like pancakes or something like that.

Nominating 5 or 10 guys from your own team? Well, the Merenaries aren't doing too badly, and especially the D is somewhat dominating, but I would be hard pressed to figure out 5 names on the team I'd truly consider an All Star. Off the top of my head I can think of two I'd probably nominate, and one only very very reluctantly as it's my own guy, and with some research I might find another one or two. Maybe.

What I'd prefer is something like that every coach and/or GM can propose a list of 10 to 20 players from his own conference but not own team that have caught their eye for some reason and who they would consider all star worthy. This list is added up (without number of nominations), and everyone picks their All Star team from this group. It is a limited number of names, so some research is possible, and possibly we could allow nomination speeches for the players that are on this final ballot. Doing nomination speeches before narrowing down the group to fewer players seems a waste of time and effort, and a heck of a lot of work to go through. If we limit it to those people already nominated there might not even be much need for speeches at some positions, and there would not be 32 C writing up their speeches but maybe 5 or 6, just as an example.

Further it avoids any conflict of interest as noone would be able to nominate their own players. To be frank, you might consider a dozen of your own players All Star worthy, but if they have not caught the eye of at least one other owner/GM to land on the ballot as proposed above then you are more likely than not overestimating their contribution.