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Originally posted by rj414
Originally posted by Drago

Originally posted by thehazyone


well I can already tell you that next season dedicated ST units will be a thing of the past because Bort is going to implement a maximum roster size.

Where do I suggest that's a stupid fucking idea as well?

Why not just go ahead and have a draft every year then?

No kidding. I'm sure SDL will appreciate having to cut half their team

<-- hopes the Wolfpack and Pounders play SDL early next season

Originally posted by Drago
Originally posted by thehazyone

well I can already tell you that next season dedicated ST units will be a thing of the past because Bort is going to implement a maximum roster size.

Where do I suggest that's a stupid fucking idea as well?



its an excellent idea actually. No dedicated ST players

BTW, Hazy, I have to agree with both RJ and Islander here. I can't speak for them, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the game to get better with each passing ssn. Do I expect some issues with the game each ssn and for many things not to work as I would like them to? Yes, of course I do. What I don't expect is for it to continually getting worse or wildly out of control swings from one extreme to the other.

What I just don't understand at all is how Bort can't see that he needs to take a step back and focus on fixing the foundation of his product (the sim itself) and stop with all the bells, noise makers and fancy decorations. As a matter of fact, I'd suggest taking away the fluff, fixing the foundation and then very slowly and gradually adding it back on over the course of many ssns. I mean, come on, 2 very good pro teams playing a 104-79 game?!?!?! Just wow!

I honestly and sincerely want this game to succeed. Hell, I've invested an embarrassingly large amount of time & $ into it. Besides, I do still enjoy it. Frankly, I don't believe that there is an owner up here that wants to see the game go to hell or fail. We all had to put in a shit ton of work to either get here or stay here. I like ya, man, but I think your post is out of line.

Originally posted by datongw
Originally posted by thehazyone

I didn't say it was perfect - there's still room for improvement, but it's soooooo much better than last season. You actually have to account for more than one play now.

Very true, but it doesn't really take much to be better than last season.

The scoring has just been up this season, you'd figure with D play creator defenses would be better. But the reality is right now most of us have no idea what to expect each game, just a ton of crazy stuff.

DPC doesnt come close to compensate for the obvious fact that Bort has completely Bort'd all aspects of the game.
With the 'right' builds, you could have a dominant elusive back, dominant tackle breaker, and ridiculous passing success all on the same team.

Offensive line blocking is amazing - not nerfed - this season. That outside blocker VA? Yeah. Nice job Bort. You'll nerf attribute VAs then turn around and give elusive back teams the ability to get a 30% bonus to speed, agility, and vision on all outside runs. Yeah - one head fake/juke and it's big yardage. You have 3 linemen just splattering 5 defenders past the LOS with regularity.

I just PM'd RJ about this, but I'm loss as a MLB right now. I have more missed tackles in 3 games with 70 tackling then almost all of last season when I had low 60's. Balanced tackling then too. I feel like a RDE

There are so many little things borked with this game right now. CB coverage, I mean we could go on long into tl;dr land.
*shrug*

making this game more enjoyable this current season is as easy as removing the VA's....seriously...its not just the dedicated special teams unit, its the dedicated special teams unit with special teams VA's on top of it....it just makes all of this annoying.

Step 1: Remove VA's

Step 2: Fix Basic Setup

Step 3: Finish Fixing Setup

Step 4: Slowly Add More Content

Originally posted by islander1
Originally posted by rj414

Originally posted by thehazyone


I guess I'm tired of people bitching (always have been, even long before I was a mod and testing). It's a game - if you aren't enjoying it, then don't play or pay. It's really that simple. Me personally, if I was going to be unhappy about something for more than a couple months, I'd be long gone. I enjoy the game though and I understand it's not perfect and that there are things that need to improve (which is what I'm trying to do but with only one programmer, something which is at the core root at the major problem with this game, it takes a lot longer than if you had a well organized team of developers).

I'm just going to stay out of any thread that whines/bitches from now on, but y'all know where to find me if you need help or have any questions.

Hazy

Hazy, don't worry, I have been tempted to quit GLB since midway through season 7. You as an owner I would expect to understand though that when you own a pro level team it isn't easy to simply quit if you don't like it. The agents on your team to whom you have made a commitment deserve better than that. You also have a duty to your league - gutting mid season is not something that I would ever want to do, out of respect for USA Pro. Look at the response that Pierre was given for considering quitting despite lots of real life issues? Also, the monetary investment I have made in this game makes me think that I would rather try and get issues taken care of before simply writing it off.

I'm not somebody who is gonna sit here and just point fingers. If I was a tester, like you, I would have no problem putting in absurd hours to get this game fixed. If you think all I want to do is sit here and bitch, I dare you to get me a chance to get my hands dirty to prove that I am just as willing to work on it as I am to point out problems. But I am sick and tired of glaring issues in this game being ignored and Bort continuing to tack stuff onto it like a blind man decorating a cake before he even has the basics right.

You say this season is better than last. I say you are wrong. I am not alone. It's easy for you to dismiss me and others like me as people who are just bitching, but ultimately we do it because we want GLB to be a success, rather than to have wasted a year of our lives on something that is gonna implode on itself and die.

Hazy we are friends but I have to completely agree with RJ here.

I'm honestly at a point where I'm playing this game for a lot of other people - and not myself.

If I could - without hurting any of the tens of agents who I coordinate for - step away from all of it and just be a player, at this point I'd be ready to do it. Many of us are just tired of the three ring circus this game continues to be despite wanting it to be better.


Islander, I bite the bullet and stepped down from all the GM positions and sold my team. I feel your pain bro.

Originally posted by islander1
If I could - without hurting any of the tens of agents who I coordinate for - step away from all of it and just be a player, at this point I'd be ready to do it. Many of us are just tired of the three ring circus this game continues to be despite wanting it to be better.


You' not alone on this feeling.

Seriously, I think that fixing this jumping 10 yards to try a pick would be a great improovement already...

Originally posted by islander1
Originally posted by datongw

Originally posted by thehazyone


I didn't say it was perfect - there's still room for improvement, but it's soooooo much better than last season. You actually have to account for more than one play now.

Very true, but it doesn't really take much to be better than last season.

The scoring has just been up this season, you'd figure with D play creator defenses would be better. But the reality is right now most of us have no idea what to expect each game, just a ton of crazy stuff.

DPC doesnt come close to compensate for the obvious fact that Bort has completely Bort'd all aspects of the game.
With the 'right' builds, you could have a dominant elusive back, dominant tackle breaker, and ridiculous passing success all on the same team.

Offensive line blocking is amazing - not nerfed - this season. That outside blocker VA? Yeah. Nice job Bort. You'll nerf attribute VAs then turn around and give elusive back teams the ability to get a 30% bonus to strength, blocking, and agility on all outside runs. Yeah - one head fake/juke and it's big yardage.

I just PM'd RJ about this, but I'm loss as a MLB right now. I have more missed tackles in 3 games with 70 tackling then almost all of last season when I had low 60's. Balanced tackling then too. I feel like a RDE

There are so many little things borked with this game right now. CB coverage, I mean we could go on long into tl;dr land.
*shrug*



Agree with everything you stated above. Personally I'm getting more tired of this game every passing day, it's like a job. If I had my choice I'd retire most players and just be a player agent. But I think as a lot of the team owners/coordinators, I'm sticking it out for the agents that are on the team.

I agree with PP that this game has grown out of Bort's control. I give Bort a lot of credit for taking it this far, but let's face it, for this game to flourish and fulfill its potential, Bort will need a team of dedicated developers and testers, nothing against Hazy and co, but it's not their profession to be software testers. Does EA have only 1 developer for every game? Sometimes it's mind boggling to me how Bort is still the only one developing this game after over a year of this game going "live".

Originally posted by Ubasstards
Originally posted by Drago

Originally posted by thehazyone


well I can already tell you that next season dedicated ST units will be a thing of the past because Bort is going to implement a maximum roster size.

Where do I suggest that's a stupid fucking idea as well?



its an excellent idea actually. No dedicated ST players
Why? At every level from HS to NFL, most of the ST players play mostly on ST.

Originally posted by bhall43
making this game more enjoyable this current season is as easy as removing the VA's....seriously...its not just the dedicated special teams unit, its the dedicated special teams unit with special teams VA's on top of it....it just makes all of this annoying.

Step 1: Remove VA's

Step 2: Fix Basic Setup

Step 3: Finish Fixing Setup

Step 4: Slowly Add More Content

Yeah, I do think removing the VAs would actually solve a lot of the problems. For all the efforts Bort put into "forcing" people to make balanced builds, the VAs empower those specialized builds.

datong - had to update the outside blocking VA btw - I was thinking of goal line blocker but the effects of outside blocker with the speed/vision is amazing. I think defenses would be better off having outside blocker affect strength and blocking because they are getting pancaked regardless

Bort is in over his head. VAs are the single reason for all the craziness, too - remove them and the sim would return to being semi realistic, or would at least be much easier to return to that level. Because of VAs, Bort's usual strategy of pin the nerf on the donkey will never be able to plug all the holes and problems with the sim logic. They introduce a variable he doesnt understand and can't control. You can't introduce that kind of complexity to a game if you're the only programmer, esp. if the game didn't work right in the first place.

Originally posted by cbtd10
Originally posted by Ubasstards

Originally posted by Drago


Originally posted by thehazyone



well I can already tell you that next season dedicated ST units will be a thing of the past because Bort is going to implement a maximum roster size.

Where do I suggest that's a stupid fucking idea as well?



its an excellent idea actually. No dedicated ST players
Why? At every level from HS to NFL, most of the ST players play mostly on ST.

Yeah. We could make it so having a dedicated ST could get you 1 or 2 touchdowns a game instead of 8. Or we can just rape every team that is using a dedicated ST unit. good plan.

Originally posted by Luzod
Seriously, I think that fixing this jumping 10 yards to try a pick would be a great improovement already...

Sometimes I wonder if Bort knows how to play the game of football, probably an arm chair QB trying to play expert. There are a lot of stuff that happens in GLB just does not happen in real football.