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ceevee
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keep at it Gold Rush. you have a young side and you'll develop over time. GL in the 2nd half of the season.

next up: bluur and the Wolfpac
 
Kiber
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GG Lake Superior Squall. You showed some weaknesses in my D that I need to fix, so thanks for that.

Also - I grew up on the shores of Lake Superior - it was good to come home again.
 
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GG Charleston Swamp Foxes
 
ceevee
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GG Wolfpac. We took you guys very seriously and I hoped it showed. Hopefully we'll meet again in the POs
 
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GG Malibu Mercenary
 
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very GG wolverines
 
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gg Orlando Knights
 
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Originally posted by dpride59
Originally posted by rellascout

Originally posted by sushil33t


Originally posted by dpride59



YO GG NOOBS. I officially quit glb. NBA JAM is disbanding see ya!


It's too good to be true...


I would be heart broken......


I really feel like quitting. I am not going to quit, but I am really annoyed at that lack of competitive games in our conference. I want to win yes, but I want to win close games, and have my superior tactics shine through. I Want to game plan vs the best, and I feel like I am playing alone in this division with the exception of 4 teams. I have just been trying to feverishly schedule competitive scrimmages with the best 34 capped teams I Can find. I even go into 34 cap forums starting shit just to get games. It is frustrating the lack of parity, and on top of it we lose out on MVP votes because we are too dominant. Look at my LB best stats by any player bar none, 2nd in mvp voting bc his team wins by too many points.


Alright, Dpride MAY be going overboard a bit here by saying he is going to quit the game (even if he DID retract it), but I CAN see his point here...

No BS'ing aside, I do NOT see my team (The Chicago Lazer Squirrels) as a "great" team by any stretch of the imagination, and yet we are 7 and 1 thru 8 games now. I get the chance to see all our builds, and some of them baffle me quite a bit. But despite our builds our team keeps on winning by convincing margins week after week...

Again I will be brutally honest; when we face the San Diego Cyberballers and NBA Jam, unless I can pull a rabbit out of my hat (and a TON of FP purchases from our players!), we aren't even going to be within 36 points of either opponent...

GLB is great fun at times, but sometimes it gets really old watching your QB throw for 500 yds and 12 TDs, or watching your HB run for 350 and 6 TDs game after game. But What can be done?

I think Bort & company are trying, and the league shuffle was a good first step. But since the number of "dedicated" AND (somewhat) knowledegable Coordinators will limit how balanced a league CAN be. Any time you have a vast difference in GLB/REAL football skill, and distribute the limited number of teams being run by coordinators/owners WITH a modicum of skill, you are BOUND to have a lack of parity in the leagues you randomly set up. the big question is, how can you "fix" the issue? Bort & company have tried a shuffle based on player level, and that has only gone part way to solve the problem...can other steps be taken?

I'd like to suggest a couple...

1) "Private" Leagues, with invite only as the criteria.
Pluses: You can easily "fix" the parity issue if teams can join certain leagues by invite only.
Pluses: Bort could institute a FP charge to OWN a league, and perhaps generate more income.
Minuses: You run the risk of seperating the GLB community into the "elite" and the rest, and having the less dedicated agents lose interest if/when they cannot get invited to the "better" leagues without knowing someone.

2) Widen the shuffle parameters to include not just player levels, but also age of team under current ownership, and stadium size/potential team income.
Pluses: Somewhat balances the economic inequities which keep newer teams from being able to compete with more established teams for high priced free agents, and levels the field in regards to rapidly escalating cost of EQ upgrades.
Minuses: while this would group many 3+ season teams together, and nominally these teams should all be at or near each other in terms of economic "edge" in recruitment and the ability to purchase team EQ, at the 1st/2nd season levels, parity issues would still remain based upon the team build philosophies and/or recruitment activity levels of different owners.

I don;t know if anything will be done regarding these suggestions, but it seems to me that right now the skill and/or willingness to play this game hard is spread WAY thin in this game. since the game is basically made up mostly of 16 team units (with the exception of a few inter-conference games and the play off finals where you are in a 32 team unit), elitism is not such as huge a concern as it would be in a game which has the ENTIRE community interacting competitively at all times. So maybe you might want to think about letting those owners who WANT to play hard, play in their own groups?

 
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Take it to the suggestions forum Guy-O.
 
rellascout
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Blah Blah Blah.....

People need to understand that there is no way to get an even playing field by design because the variables are too great.... If you are a level 32 capped team but everyone started as slow builds and boosts properly you are going to be better than other level 32 teams who do not have the dedication and real world cash......

Nothing Bort does can change that fact.

Plus some people can build players but know nothing about the Sim or the AI. This means when they get a team they do not know how to use them properly. It can take a season or 2 to understand the AI and that curve keeps getting steeper. I run a lot of teams as an OC and DC....

I see the sim a lot. I see dots in my sleep. This is not the norm. As result I will be better than most base purely on looking at so many teams. Again nothing Bort does can change that.

Once you have a good rep then your success breeds more success. There are too many variables to control. Now just because Bort does not have 100% control does not spell doom. Look at the league I own a team in.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=99&conference_id=198

7 teams a 6-2 This is parity. It was the same way in BBB #1

Give this reshuffle time.. the best teams will be gone and those left will have a much more even playing field..... Good luck to all the rest of the way.
Last edited May 11, 2009 13:25:39
 
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Originally posted by rellascout
This is parody..


Parody= humorous imitation piece.

Parity= the state of being equal

Just thought you should know, as that one word kind of invalidates your argument.
 
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Originally posted by RoseBowlChamps
Originally posted by rellascout

This is parody..


Parody= humorous imitation piece.

Parity= the state of being equal


that cleared up the confusion in my head
 
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Originally posted by RoseBowlChamps
Originally posted by rellascout

This is parody..


Parody= humorous imitation piece.

Parity= the state of being equal

Just thought you should know, as that one word kind of invalidates your argument.


Same fucking difference. This forum is full of more fucking complainers than any other on GLB. Rose bowl is even worse than dpride. At least dpride owns the team. Rose bowl appears to just kiss ass and lick dprides boots. The league whines more than any other I have ever been part of...

The fucking people in this league choose this league... they all wanted to be in a capped league and now all you do is complain... The tops teams are complaining that they are winning too much. What a fucking joke.

Lets face it 90% of the teams here could not cut it in a regular league so Bort created the training wheels BBB leagues to help out those who cannot help themselves. You should just shut the fuck up take your wins build your stadium and move up....

The best part is that without the training wheels most of those who are bitching would be on the other end of the score.

Its pretty fucking sad. This is my last post here. Its not even worth reading anymore. When you are basement dwelling team you get well basement level competition. How is that Borts fault?

Someone get these people some fucking cheese to go with their wine..........
Last edited May 11, 2009 13:35:14
 
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It's a little wierd to complain about winning by too much, the same teams complaining worked overtime trying to put the best possible team on the field with the cap. There's nothing wrong with that, but surely if you were aiming to be the best at the level you had to think that it was a possibility that you'd far surpass the average competition. Look around, at almost every league level there are very few teams that are packed and actually well put together. Most are a hodgepoge of teams put together with duct tape one season at a time. If you put together a team with alot of depth, good avg level, decent builds, and even an average gameplan you'd have to know you're going to blow away 90% of the teams you go against. It's kind of retarded to complain about being too much better than everyone else, just suck more. Problem solved.
 
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Nah...you miss the point fujicrow.

first, I'm not bitching, I'm trying to find a possible solution. I know full well that there will be different knowledge and skill levels across the whole of GLB, and in and of itself, that will lead to SOME situations where it will be hard to avoid all blow outs.

The thing is that my team, the Chicago Lazer Squirrels, did not follow a traditional slow build plan for our team. We recruited very hard right from the start of season 8 to try to field a starting line up of level 25-34 players when we were placed in an un-capped league. The result of HOURS of hard work was that we could start a team of all lv 25+ players, and even had a little bit of depth...for our trouble and effort we found ourselves in an un-capped league with a few teams STACKED with lv 40+ players, and no chance to compete. We ended 9 and 7 and barely eke'd out a play off spot.

Fast forward to seaosn 9...

We had our base team in place, and the shuffle put us into a lv 34 cap league. GREAT! It suits our levels to a tee. We do not have a ton of awesome builds maybe, but we also are not facing teams with a full line up 6 to 10 levels above our HIGHEST player either. Instead of it being a highly competitive situation though, we are now the "haves" instead of the "have nots". Instead of close and hard fought games, we are blowing teams out 70-6 and 140-9, instead of losing those games. The bottom line is we can STILL predict our team record on day 1 of the pre-seson, and that sort of negates the effort needed to have competition...

So while the shuffle is a good START...maybe the ability to buy and create your own league, with teams you can personally invite, might be a way to have more parity amongst the teams that DO want to put an extra amount of effort into this game.

who knows.
 
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