Warrior General Games

Originally posted by sirallan
wait voltron was a tester!?!?!?!?!

whats a tester? who the hell is voltron?

Originally posted by Voltron
Originally posted by phthalatemagic

Originally posted by Voltron


Originally posted by phthalatemagic



Is the rawr rawr guy one of the players that gets tested on the test server? Yeah.

Are you one of those idiot conspiracy theorists? Yeah.
Do you find it difficult to make your point without person attacks?

And yours wasn't?

It wasn't.

Originally posted by JT83
Guys, I'm not Voltron fan, but stop pulling the test server card.

EVERY VIDEO GAME HAS TESTERS

It's a necessary evil, just deal with it.

Yes, and other video game has paid professionals not competing with paying customers. But I can see why Bort wants to keep overhead down. People are in flex burn off mode now.

wait wait wait.

so there was testers for GLB and this dude "voltron" was one of them???
What the hell were they testing!

Originally posted by sirallan
wait wait wait.

so there was testers for GLB and this dude "voltron" was one of them???
What the hell were they testing!


Builds. They were testing builds.

Originally posted by phthalatemagic
Originally posted by sirallan

wait wait wait.

so there was testers for GLB and this dude "voltron" was one of them???
What the hell were they testing!


Builds. They were testing builds.

They were testing how to build the perfect player...Voltron still hasn't figured it out yet...but as soon as he uses his tester powers to see Freeney's build...he will.(using his tester powers to see David Amazing's build almost did it)

Originally posted by Nexus Valhees
Originally posted by phthalatemagic

Is the rawr rawr guy one of the players that gets tested on the test server? Yeah.

Doesn't matter Voltron could barley figure out how the lions went together any info he could have gleaned from the test server would be wasted.

WHAT?

Originally posted by JT83
Guys, I'm not Voltron fan, but stop pulling the test server card.

EVERY VIDEO GAME HAS TESTERS

It's a necessary evil, just deal with it.

Now he gets a card! TOTALLY NOT FAIR!!!!! I want a card.

Originally posted by Voltron
Originally posted by phthalatemagic

Is the rawr rawr guy one of the players that gets tested on the test server? Yeah.

Are you one of those idiot conspiracy theorists? Yeah.

Personal attack ban

Originally posted by phthalatemagic
Good to see jrry is on the case here

I am always on the case.

Originally posted by phthalatemagic
Originally posted by JT83

Guys, I'm not Voltron fan, but stop pulling the test server card.

EVERY VIDEO GAME HAS TESTERS

It's a necessary evil, just deal with it.

Yes, and other video game has paid professionals not competing with paying customers. But I can see why Bort wants to keep overhead down. People are in flex burn off mode now.

I don't know if that was sarcasm, but yes, other video games do have professionals and non-paid professional testers who do compete with paying customers who are not testers. All of the online games I have ever played have this system:
World of Warcraft, Street Fighter 4, WarCraft 3, and Madden.

Originally posted by LaSeeno
Originally posted by raidersrock

Rawr Rawr's trophy case has gotten so full that he was nice enough to let me put some in Dwight Freeney's case so his didnt look so empty.


Rawr Rawr (DE)
Height: 72in. (6'0") Weight: 275lbs
Created: Season 1, day 21 (Apr 1, 2008)
Contract: $236,000.00/yr - Exp. season 8, Day 40
Team: Pa Dong Dragons
Agent: Voltron

Championships
No awards won.

This.

Plus, he exclusively plays LDE and avoids the stud OTs on the other side.

C'mon Voltron, show some testicular fortitude and bring Ms. Rawr Rawr over to the right for once...

called out

Originally posted by sirallan
called out

for the 6th or 7th season in a row now?

Rawr Rawr is great for compiling regular season stats. Come playoff time he falls asleep.

Originally posted by JT83
Originally posted by phthalatemagic

Originally posted by JT83


Guys, I'm not Voltron fan, but stop pulling the test server card.

EVERY VIDEO GAME HAS TESTERS

It's a necessary evil, just deal with it.

Yes, and other video game has paid professionals not competing with paying customers. But I can see why Bort wants to keep overhead down. People are in flex burn off mode now.

I don't know if that was sarcasm, but yes, other video games do have professionals and non-paid professional testers who do compete with paying customers who are not testers. All of the online games I have ever played have this system:
World of Warcraft, Street Fighter 4, WarCraft 3, and Madden.

It's not really the same, at all.

How so?

Originally posted by JT83
How so?

The games you list are all pretty much based on hand eye coordination not a build v build system in which none of the info is really given out. I can guess at what the best build is. But really with only 16 games to play and having to build from scratch every time and pay for those tests you can barley come up with anything for sure. While someone who can run a sim every 2 hours can gather an awful lot in a very short period of time. Like WR ag over 80 being counter productive for instance. There are some games that by the look of them that is exactly what was going on. There was one that had all 100 speed Various AG WR with all stats otherwise the same for instance. Now how much info could you glean from that much more controlled environment. I'd say quite a bit.

I do honestly believe that the testers were testing for the right reasons but you can't just unlearn that stuff. Now that we have the info available it does help but the way it is laid out is frustrating and you can't be sure that the builds were the same from sim to sim and you can't know for sure what they were looking for so that's a lot to filter through. This is a competitive game .and in order for it to remain competitive certain players can't have inside information while others don't If there were more to this game than builds and AI settings it wouldn't be nearly as big an issue but honestly there is just not.

Originally posted by Nexus Valhees
Originally posted by JT83

How so?

The games you list are all pretty much based on hand eye coordination not a build v build system in which none of the info is really given out. I can guess at what the best build is. But really with only 16 games to play and having to build from scratch every time and pay for those tests you can barley come up with anything for sure. While someone who can run a sim every 2 hours can gather an awful lot in a very short period of time. Like WR ag over 80 being counter productive for instance. There are some games that by the look of them that is exactly what was going on. There was one that had all 100 speed Various AG WR with all stats otherwise the same for instance. Now how much info could you glean from that much more controlled environment. I'd say quite a bit.

I do honestly believe that the testers were testing for the right reasons but you can't just unlearn that stuff. Now that we have the info available it does help but the way it is laid out is frustrating and you can't be sure that the builds were the same from sim to sim and you can't know for sure what they were looking for so that's a lot to filter through. This is a competitive game .and in order for it to remain competitive certain players can't have inside information while others don't If there were more to this game than builds and AI settings it wouldn't be nearly as big an issue but honestly there is just not.


To save time I'll just list the advantages of being a WCIII tester. A thorough list can be given for every game I mentioned.
- More knowledge of which units work and what units don't work.
- Head start on figuring out the proper counters.
- Head start and figuring out what the best build orders are.
- Better knowledge of item drops.
- Better knowledge of which creeps to hit first.
- Advanced knowledge on which heroes work the best.
- Head start on gaining experience for tournaments. A video game usually "peaks" in it's first three months. This is why tournaments like the Madden Challenge are held only two months after release. I've never seen nor do I ever expect to see a GLB cash tournament

Edit: I forgot to mention the reason why that post has any relevance lol . The bottom line is that getting tester data is just as important for games with "hand eye coordination" as it is for games like GLB. Keep in mind that all the testers were not able to reset the builds of their character, even with inside knowledge they were only able to adjust their builds accordingly for one season, they were not granted a reset. I am not denying it is an advantage, I'm just saying people are blowing that advantage out of proportion.

Yes the advantage is small now but in a few seasons it will not be. The thing is in most games after a few months you have all the info at your fingertips and the playing field pretty much levels ouy. That isn't the case here all dot ball is builds and AI there's nothing else to it and information is the key determiner of who wins Dot Ball. The competition level in this game is already pretty bad in most places and it's only going to get worse with a few people having such information. if the same is the case with other games is irrelevant I don't pay to play those games. Honestly until Bort fixes these constant problems we have around here I won't be paying for this one I'll be playing off the flex I already have and making the game less and less competitive with a test server is a problem for me.