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the thing is i have never seen a fullback improve his run blocking by getting more than 50+ blocking, pass blocking sure.

but if you want a good pass blocker here you go.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=398720&pbp_id=2083577

im sure he doesnt have more than 25

Originally posted by staggart
the thing is i have never seen a fullback improve his run blocking by getting more than 50+ blocking, pass blocking sure.

but if you want a good pass blocker here you go.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=398720&pbp_id=2083577

im sure he doesnt have more than 25

That fullback? Build's open, he has 55. HB has 16.

the hb is doing a better job than the fb because the fb and hb are never supposed to be single handily blocking people by themselves for a significant amount of time.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
I am not exactly going to give out the details of builds, but I will say the lead fullback on my team is fantastic, he leads my super elusive hb just fine, and there is a 45 point speed differential.

I'd seriously like to know the sekrit here...

My FB is only level 30, but the elusive HBs on my team who has 40 more speed than him just blows right by him. The power HB on my team does pretty much the same thing even though the speed differential is less than 20. He is a Str based build but has soft capped block/agi/str/vision as well. Currently working on Agi and I think getting that to the second cap will help quite a bit. AEQ is lead block and first step, but they just don't seem to be helping much. Confidence is only 29, so also maybe part of the problem and I have been training that lately.

Btw, I easily lead the team in pancakes - unfortunately most of them come on special teams or are the result of me taking down someone *after* the HB blows by me. I feel like my real contribution to the running game is pretty pathetic despite the fact that my stats look pretty good - he just doesn't get out in front fast enough and seems much slower than he did last season.

Originally posted by rileyjt
Originally posted by UnderDogs

I am not exactly going to give out the details of builds, but I will say the lead fullback on my team is fantastic, he leads my super elusive hb just fine, and there is a 45 point speed differential.

I'd seriously like to know the sekrit here...

My FB is only level 30, but the elusive HBs on my team who has 40 more speed than him just blows right by him. The power HB on my team does pretty much the same thing even though the speed differential is less than 20. He is a Str based build but has soft capped block/agi/str/vision as well. Currently working on Agi and I think getting that to the second cap will help quite a bit. AEQ is lead block and first step, but they just don't seem to be helping much. Confidence is only 29, so also maybe part of the problem and I have been training that lately.

Btw, I easily lead the team in pancakes - unfortunately most of them come on special teams or are the result of me taking down someone *after* the HB blows by me. I feel like my real contribution to the running game is pretty pathetic despite the fact that my stats look pretty good - he just doesn't get out in front fast enough and seems much slower than he did last season.



Speaking as an elusive back who blows by his FB's on virtually every play, all I can say is put some damned points into speed! You're right on in your assessment, riley. Strength and speed should be equal for FB's, IMO.

Riley -- What's your FB's agility? An agility in the high 60's can often make up for having 30 less speed than your HB.

This is my FB last season when he had ~70 agility, 49 speed. He's blocking for a 90 speed, 60 agility half-back in these replays.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=366449&pbp_id=13941499
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=366449&pbp_id=13941971

Agility seems to be very overlooked for fullbacks, which is a shame considering the level gains.

Originally posted by shull


Agility seems to be very overlooked for fullbacks, which is a shame considering the level gains.

I'm beginning to believe that agility is one of the most overlooked attributes for FBs as well. Almost all the bad plays I see FBs make are mistakes getting to the defender. I've started slowbuilding an agility-based FB this season as an experiment. He'll get soft-capped agility, then speed, then blocking and strength.

Originally posted by boognish
Originally posted by rileyjt

Originally posted by UnderDogs


I am not exactly going to give out the details of builds, but I will say the lead fullback on my team is fantastic, he leads my super elusive hb just fine, and there is a 45 point speed differential.

I'd seriously like to know the sekrit here...

My FB is only level 30, but the elusive HBs on my team who has 40 more speed than him just blows right by him. The power HB on my team does pretty much the same thing even though the speed differential is less than 20. He is a Str based build but has soft capped block/agi/str/vision as well. Currently working on Agi and I think getting that to the second cap will help quite a bit. AEQ is lead block and first step, but they just don't seem to be helping much. Confidence is only 29, so also maybe part of the problem and I have been training that lately.

Btw, I easily lead the team in pancakes - unfortunately most of them come on special teams or are the result of me taking down someone *after* the HB blows by me. I feel like my real contribution to the running game is pretty pathetic despite the fact that my stats look pretty good - he just doesn't get out in front fast enough and seems much slower than he did last season.



Speaking as an elusive back who blows by his FB's on virtually every play, all I can say is put some damned points into speed! You're right on in your assessment, riley. Strength and speed should be equal for FB's, IMO.



I can't agree with that part. RBs are SUPPOSED to "blow by your FB"--your FBs job is to engage a blocker 3-5 steps after the snap. If he's quick enough to do that, its up to the RB to make his own way after the FB has engaged the first would-be tackler.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Originally posted by boognish

Speaking as an elusive back who blows by his FB's on virtually every play, all I can say is put some damned points into speed! You're right on in your assessment, riley. Strength and speed should be equal for FB's, IMO.



I can't agree with that part. RBs are SUPPOSED to "blow by your FB"--your FBs job is to engage a blocker 3-5 steps after the snap. If he's quick enough to do that, its up to the RB to make his own way after the FB has engaged the first would-be tackler.



uh, pretty sure he means he blows by the FB behind the LOS. you can see it on the film of his HB.

here's an interesting play:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=375827&pbp_id=6002276

Originally posted by Darren McFadden
here's an interesting play:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=375827&pbp_id=6002276

Why?

Originally posted by bluemagus
Originally posted by Darren McFadden

here's an interesting play:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=375827&pbp_id=6002276

Why?

Because if the FB hasn't engaged the DT it would be a TFL instead of a 30 yard run

Isn't that is what he was suppose to do? The FB made a block. Their whole team did. So what is interesting about that? How does it pertain to the topic of the thread?

I'm guessing it's an example of "high blocking at work"?

Originally posted by pottsman
I'm guessing it's an example of "high blocking at work"?


I think it was also pointing out that the FB routinely engages with a would-be tackler during his first couple of steps.