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Originally posted by SpreadThePink
Fastest response time by support ever?

What can I say, I'm simply the best at what I do

That said, OP happens to raise a good point. The defense needs a counter to personal package changes. In the NFL, teams are even guarenteed time to change if the offense makes a personnel swap, I see no reason not to follow suit here.

Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder
Originally posted by SpreadThePink

Fastest response time by support ever?

What can I say, I'm simply the best at what I do

That said, OP happens to raise a good point. The defense needs a counter to personal package changes. In the NFL, teams are even guarenteed time to change if the offense makes a personnel swap, I see no reason not to follow suit here.

It's missing from this game, although, would you really sub in a STR DE when the offense put in a blocking TE?

Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder
Originally posted by SpreadThePink

Fastest response time by support ever?

What can I say, I'm simply the best at what I do

That said, OP happens to raise a good point. The defense needs a counter to personal package changes. In the NFL, teams are even guarenteed time to change if the offense makes a personnel swap, I see no reason not to follow suit here.

People keep overlooking the ability to call an audible. If people want to use real life examples, then use all variables.

Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder
That said, OP happens to raise a good point. The defense needs a counter to personal package changes. In the NFL, teams are even guarenteed time to change if the offense makes a personnel swap, I see no reason not to follow suit here.

For which I'm sure there's something in the suggestions forum.

Again, why do people think this will make a difference? It's not like a team can't change who TE1/2 are from game to game.

Originally posted by wombat killer
Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder

Originally posted by SpreadThePink


Fastest response time by support ever?

What can I say, I'm simply the best at what I do

That said, OP happens to raise a good point. The defense needs a counter to personal package changes. In the NFL, teams are even guarenteed time to change if the offense makes a personnel swap, I see no reason not to follow suit here.

People keep overlooking the ability to call an audible. If people want to use real life examples, then use all variables.

But if the offense calls an audible to a pass when they have their blocking TE in, they still have to use a less than ideal receiver.

Teams changing TE1/TE2 game to game is a problem, so you might have to allow the defense to change tactics based on specific personnel. That would be a hassle, though, so maybe there is a better solution I haven't thought of.

Originally posted by wombat killer
Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder

Originally posted by SpreadThePink


Fastest response time by support ever?

What can I say, I'm simply the best at what I do

That said, OP happens to raise a good point. The defense needs a counter to personal package changes. In the NFL, teams are even guarenteed time to change if the offense makes a personnel swap, I see no reason not to follow suit here.

People keep overlooking the ability to call an audible. If people want to use real life examples, then use all variables.

audibles don't change the personnel. If they want to audible with their blocking TE in and throw, so be it - they are sacrificing one player for that advantage. The defense wouldn't change their formation based on this "audible" ability.

Originally posted by Gott


Again, why do people think this will make a difference? It's not like a team can't change who TE1/2 are from game to game.




At some point the interface is going to have to allow defenses the ability to matchup against PLAYERS rather than POSITIONS. Do you think for a moment a NFL defense would put a LB on Reggie Wayne merely because the Colts were "creative" enough to break the huddle with Dallas Clark lined up outside and Reggie Wayne lined up inside?

The OP brings up a valid point: the offense can excessively use specialists and the defense can't react to it by saying "oh, here comes the 15-blocking, 100-speed TE, I think we should play pass defense".

The fact that offenses can use specialists so much with no drawbacks is one of the reason we have amazingly high scoring totals and pass completion percentages that are too high... And it's one of the reasons that 3rd/4th and short is way too easy to convert.

Originally posted by RandomBeast
Originally posted by wombat killer

Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder


Originally posted by SpreadThePink



Fastest response time by support ever?

What can I say, I'm simply the best at what I do

That said, OP happens to raise a good point. The defense needs a counter to personal package changes. In the NFL, teams are even guarenteed time to change if the offense makes a personnel swap, I see no reason not to follow suit here.

People keep overlooking the ability to call an audible. If people want to use real life examples, then use all variables.

audibles don't change the personnel. If they want to audible with their blocking TE in and throw, so be it - they are sacrificing one player for that advantage. The defense wouldn't change their formation based on this "audible" ability.

Of course they don't change personnel, but they change the plays. I imagine in real football there are mulitple plays called out of the same personnel groups for the specific purpope of not letting the defense key in to the play. Take Peyton Manning for example. Doesn't he wait until he looks over the defense to determine if he is going to call a pass or run? I would think that this would pretty much offset any advantage the defense would get by subbing in based on what type of TE is in the game.

Originally posted by wombat killer
Originally posted by RandomBeast

Originally posted by wombat killer


Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder



Originally posted by SpreadThePink




Fastest response time by support ever?

What can I say, I'm simply the best at what I do

That said, OP happens to raise a good point. The defense needs a counter to personal package changes. In the NFL, teams are even guarenteed time to change if the offense makes a personnel swap, I see no reason not to follow suit here.

People keep overlooking the ability to call an audible. If people want to use real life examples, then use all variables.

audibles don't change the personnel. If they want to audible with their blocking TE in and throw, so be it - they are sacrificing one player for that advantage. The defense wouldn't change their formation based on this "audible" ability.

Of course they don't change personnel, but they change the plays. I imagine in real football there are mulitple plays called out of the same personnel groups for the specific purpope of not letting the defense key in to the play. Take Peyton Manning for example. Doesn't he wait until he looks over the defense to determine if he is going to call a pass or run? I would think that this would pretty much offset any advantage the defense would get by subbing in based on what type of TE is in the game.

Hoya already answered this:

Originally posted by hoyaboy1
But if the offense calls an audible to a pass when they have their blocking TE in, they still have to use a less than ideal receiver.

Originally posted by hoyaboy1
Originally posted by wombat killer

Unrealistic in what way? Most NFL teams have blocking TEs and catching TEs.

Really? The receiving TE still needs to be able to block, and the blocking TE to catch - otherwise the defense would know the playcall every time.

In GLB you'd want Randy Moss and Orlando Pace as your TEs rather than guys like Gonzalez or Witten.

Double TE formations cough cough cough

Originally posted by hoyaboy1

let the defense change their tactics based on which TE is in the game (as they would in real life).

this although i'd feel sorry for any DC

Originally posted by wombat killer
The offense should always have the final "switch". Its like being able to call an audible. In the real world if I bring in my catching TE and the defense brings in its dime package to offset this there's a good chance I'm going to call an audible.An audible changes the play, not the personnel. The final switch for personnel is always defensive, because they have no huddle. The defense should always have the final switch.

Originally posted by Cutler2Marshall
Originally posted by hoyaboy1

Originally posted by wombat killer


Unrealistic in what way? Most NFL teams have blocking TEs and catching TEs.

Really? The receiving TE still needs to be able to block, and the blocking TE to catch - otherwise the defense would know the playcall every time.

In GLB you'd want Randy Moss and Orlando Pace as your TEs rather than guys like Gonzalez or Witten.

Double TE formations cough cough cough

That's fine too, but the defense can still adjust.

This seems like some type of auto-adjust AI would need to be used. Like the defensive leader would have a % chance to auto detect the CAT/BLK of the TE and depending on which one is detected higher the defense would react accordingly.

This % would have to rely on an attribute like VIS for it to fire but it shouldn't be that difficult. I don't like allowing the defense to react to specific players over positions manually via AI settings as the AI is bloated enough IMO.

So just allow the defensive leader a % chance to auto detect the CAT/BLK of the TE and adjust the formation on the fly based on which attribute is detected to be higher.