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Kcirdor
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Originally posted by Kutzy
You want a serious response? Here ya go.

Bort stated last season there were no more restructuring. He stated it was a 1 time deal that was the end of it. The ony way a team would be relegated was due to the regular process of being the bottom 2 teams or if sold. EEORG was neither a bottom 2 team nor was it sold. Becuase of your crying, ranting and rambling you caused Bort to actually abandon his own rules of this entire game. How in the hell do you not expect a backlash? You basically created your own rules to this game and pestered the Admins until you got your way.

You are a spoiled little child who only wants his way and no other way.


That is FALSE. Several of the leagues I was in still got the Promotion even though they were not champion of Alpha/zeta. Randy didn't cause this to occur. Bort saw that the issue of Gutting was still going to be a major issue in the game and decided to continue to promo/relegation that he made in order to keep the game balanced. EE Pro is not the only league that got the promo/relegation. And I am sure Randy was not the only person to express their concerns with the problem of gutting. I have preached for seasons in the Suggestions forums to fix the Gutting issue so continued Restructure each season is what I expect to continue.
 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
I submit to you people who are rational and are sick of the crap in this forum .. to simply ignore any post or thread by any people who keep turning everything into crap.

We have a serious issue this season and since it clearly fuels fire to give attention to bratty children, do the obvious .. ignore them.

Simple enough, never respond to them .. I made 2 posts recently .. they werent taken seriously .. so I can assume that none of my posts will be taken seriously by people who just want to turn everything to crap, that is their right ... they can attempt to turn everything to crap and it is your right to ignore it.

However, these people will become quickly upset when you dont give them the attention that they crave. They say that I am like this, however, with the 100s of negative posts as of late, I have made very few, I have no interest in all of this attention, I have only interest in having a better league.

I wont make any arguments for having a better league right now, but I will say that if you want better forums, you need to PM a mod, thats what they are here for .. to keep things civil.

If you want to improve things, you dont answer posts or thread that are spammed with crap that are only meant to inflame people, there are several old trolls and some new ones lately and the old trolls have seemed to encourage new ones.

If you want forums like CPL where pretty much everything is crap, thats what we are soon to have, but if you want to improve things, then simply dont respond to crap. Post positive contributions, then ignore crap that is responded to it, reply to positive things and dont give any attention to negative crap.

Im not the boss here, I dont want to be .. I could care less what you do .. I just want to read positive contributions about dots and dot related smack talking when it comes that far. Hopefully you choose to stop feeding the trolls.


Wait a minute, so basically it's the forum should be the way Randy wants it and everything should be Randy's way or he'll report you to the mods and now he is enlisting others to help him make the forum into what he wants and is trying to get them to report others to the mods. It's good to know that if I don't agree with how you want the forum, maybe I enjoy some joking around and fun that you'll report me. Randy report this:
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Originally posted by Kcirdor
Originally posted by Kutzy

You want a serious response? Here ya go.

Bort stated last season there were no more restructuring. He stated it was a 1 time deal that was the end of it. The ony way a team would be relegated was due to the regular process of being the bottom 2 teams or if sold. EEORG was neither a bottom 2 team nor was it sold. Becuase of your crying, ranting and rambling you caused Bort to actually abandon his own rules of this entire game. How in the hell do you not expect a backlash? You basically created your own rules to this game and pestered the Admins until you got your way.

You are a spoiled little child who only wants his way and no other way.


That is FALSE. Several of the leagues I was in still got the Promotion even though they were not champion of Alpha/zeta. Randy didn't cause this to occur. Bort saw that the issue of Gutting was still going to be a major issue in the game and decided to continue to promo/relegation that he made in order to keep the game balanced. EE Pro is not the only league that got the promo/relegation. And I am sure Randy was not the only person to express their concerns with the problem of gutting. I have preached for seasons in the Suggestions forums to fix the Gutting issue so continued Restructure each season is what I expect to continue.


Not true...They made a big point that only CPU teams were to be relegated...Hence why Randy was upset in the first place...Now, I would be interested in just how many other cases like EEORG there were, where and owner stayed on in a gutted squad...If his is the only one, that makes for a very poor precedent IMO...Singling out is never a good plan...at least to me.
 
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Originally posted by jrry32
Wait a minute, so basically it's the forum should be the way Randy wants it and everything should be Randy's way or he'll report you to the mods and now he is enlisting others to help him make the forum into what he wants and is trying to get them to report others to the mods. It's good to know that if I don't agree with how you want the forum, maybe I enjoy some joking around and fun that you'll report me. Randy report this:


Ummm actually I just said ignore them thanks, I dont care what people contribute unless its crap, then yeah Ill ignore it .. but dont worry there is something else in the works that is way better than I thought of.



 
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Tim Harper's team, Mustangs, from US Pro was demoted. It was not a CPU team and was not in the bottom of the league. However, unless I am mistaken, he asked for it. Nevertheless, you asked for an example and that is one. And it was outside the "rules" that people here seem to be worried about (moreso than the stupid nerfs that occur, which I find VERY odd)
 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Originally posted by jrry32

Wait a minute, so basically it's the forum should be the way Randy wants it and everything should be Randy's way or he'll report you to the mods and now he is enlisting others to help him make the forum into what he wants and is trying to get them to report others to the mods. It's good to know that if I don't agree with how you want the forum, maybe I enjoy some joking around and fun that you'll report me. Randy report this:


Ummm actually I just said ignore them thanks, I dont care what people contribute unless its crap, then yeah Ill ignore it .. but dont worry there is something else in the works that is way better than I thought of.





Originally posted by Randy03Texags
I wont make any arguments for having a better league right now, but I will say that if you want better forums, you need to PM a mod, thats what they are here for .. to keep things civil.


I know you said ignore it in part of the post but you also said PM a mod if things aren't "civil", what is your definition of civil? Is arguing about who is the best team civil? But is making joke threads where people cuss not civil? Is the meaning of civil going to change at Randy's discretion?
 
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Originally posted by Jiddy78
Originally posted by Kcirdor

Originally posted by Kutzy


You want a serious response? Here ya go.

Bort stated last season there were no more restructuring. He stated it was a 1 time deal that was the end of it. The ony way a team would be relegated was due to the regular process of being the bottom 2 teams or if sold. EEORG was neither a bottom 2 team nor was it sold. Becuase of your crying, ranting and rambling you caused Bort to actually abandon his own rules of this entire game. How in the hell do you not expect a backlash? You basically created your own rules to this game and pestered the Admins until you got your way.

You are a spoiled little child who only wants his way and no other way.


That is FALSE. Several of the leagues I was in still got the Promotion even though they were not champion of Alpha/zeta. Randy didn't cause this to occur. Bort saw that the issue of Gutting was still going to be a major issue in the game and decided to continue to promo/relegation that he made in order to keep the game balanced. EE Pro is not the only league that got the promo/relegation. And I am sure Randy was not the only person to express their concerns with the problem of gutting. I have preached for seasons in the Suggestions forums to fix the Gutting issue so continued Restructure each season is what I expect to continue.


Not true...They made a big point that only CPU teams were to be relegated...Hence why Randy was upset in the first place...Now, I would be interested in just how many other cases like EEORG there were, where and owner stayed on in a gutted squad...If his is the only one, that makes for a very poor precedent IMO...Singling out is never a good plan...at least to me.


So everyone is pissed that Randy saved a PRO league from having to deal with another Gutted team. A team that totally makes Awards useless due tot he fact that only players from the conference with the Gutted team will get the Awards? I don't see how notifying Support of Gutted teams is detrimental OR against the rules. This is a "PRO" league. In fact this is the LEAST respected pro league in GLB. I am glad that randy stood up to make this place more competitive. I'm also glad that support took the time to make sure the league didn't get screwed over by a gutted team.
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Randy03Texags
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Okay .. well that was all about the garbage lately .. which someone PM'd a mod and it got choked down at least for today, but tomorrow is a new day ..

I however will be done with the open EE Forums as of tomorrow I think .. and yeah .. it will be much better ..
 
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Actually they didnt take the time KC, but this time I was persistent enough to get to Bort through a GM on SI's forum and on the last day before the new season Bort poked his head over in the Top 100 teams owner forum and talked to me a bit and then we got it taken care of. Had I given up, or not gone directly to a mod to go to Bort even after Bort had PM'd me and emailed me .. then it probably wouldnt have happened like it hasnt happened for the past well .. ever since Ive been trying to fix the league.
 
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EEPL forum is complete dogshit IMO. I don't know if u guys have always been like this....but the last couple weeks that I've been trolling I don't think I've seen one post that hasn't turned into dogshit.



 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Actually they didnt take the time KC, but this time I was persistent enough to get to Bort through a GM on SI's forum and on the last day before the new season Bort poked his head over in the Top 100 teams owner forum and talked to me a bit and then we got it taken care of. Had I given up, or not gone directly to a mod to go to Bort even after Bort had PM'd me and emailed me .. then it probably wouldnt have happened like it hasnt happened for the past well .. ever since Ive been trying to fix the league.


Appreciate it.
 
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Originally posted by addunn99
EEPL forum is complete dogshit IMO. I don't know if u guys have always been like this....but the last couple weeks that I've been trolling I don't think I've seen one post that hasn't turned into dogshit.


No its only been the last few weeks man .. also hey I remember your HB

 
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Originally posted by addunn99
EEPL forum is complete dogshit IMO. I don't know if u guys have always been like this....but the last couple weeks that I've been trolling I don't think I've seen one post that hasn't turned into dogshit.





Right this place is gone to shit from a few asses
 
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Also I hope that Crazy did tell yall on your team forums what I told him after yall lost to SGA in the playoffs.

Seriously, yall just need to get a little better offense over there, because that defense I saw in the playoffs was sick. It was dangerous, but it was innovative also .. I saw a lot of stuff going on that I hadnt seen against anyone in EE Pro or my 30+ scrims against the best teams and in a positive way.

Get to work on your offense and you get past Prague and SGA this season .. serious, unless you just have shitty turnover luck .. which happens to the best of us.
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The Duff Man
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Originally posted by Kcirdor
Originally posted by addunn99

EEPL forum is complete dogshit IMO. I don't know if u guys have always been like this....but the last couple weeks that I've been trolling I don't think I've seen one post that hasn't turned into dogshit.





Right this place is gone to shit from a few asses


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