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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by HurricaneBear



My point is, which you seem to be missing, they are a team of friends, or at least people that want to stick together and have fun. They HAVEN'T added big name free agents, which being a Pro team they could have. So they obviously want to keep there team intact. They have NO shot at being competitive in the Pro's with what they have. So they either have to get rid of players that have been faithful to them that they enjoy having on the team, or they move down. As a team that wants to keep there "team" intact, is moving down really an option? No. is that really that hard to understand man? You have to step outside of YOUR thinking and think like another, which I know can be tough, btu come on.

If they want to puss out thats cool with me man...thats why leagues like this get looked down upon...bunch of pussy teams cant handle it.

Your just being mean for no reason. i respect the Gamblers for understanding winning isn't everything, and keeping loyal to those who have stuck by you is a commendable act. You call them pussy's for wanting to have a shot at actually winning a season. Maybe when/if your team moves up and you go 500 at best for a few seasons, you'll understand more where they are coming from. I don't fault you, it's hard understanding where they are coming fom coming from a lower league. But as a team that's lived the Pro life EVERY season they've been a team, and failed, I don't fault them for wanting to move down and actually enjoy the game. How would have liked finishing at best a non home playoff game and a first round loss, at worst 5 wins or less EVERY season since you joined?

Originally posted by creeker22


It isn't cowardly. It is looking for a new start. I have never seen a team that starts over that is thought of as cowardly. I understand your view point, as yes we are a quite sore from playoff losses for 6 seasons in a row, but if you were on a team that was a favorite to win the league 3 of those seasons and to make the playoffs every season I am sure that you would have the same thought process

Been there...done that...once had a team that was thought of as being front runners with the Evil Monkeys back in USA A #4...top of the league basically every season only to lose in the conference championship game 3 times...hell..probably would still be playing card if bears hadnt had to sell the team because he was going inactive...

Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by creeker22



It isn't cowardly. It is looking for a new start. I have never seen a team that starts over that is thought of as cowardly. I understand your view point, as yes we are a quite sore from playoff losses for 6 seasons in a row, but if you were on a team that was a favorite to win the league 3 of those seasons and to make the playoffs every season I am sure that you would have the same thought process

Been there...done that...once had a team that was thought of as being front runners with the Evil Monkeys back in USA A #4...top of the league basically every season only to lose in the conference championship game 3 times...hell..probably would still be playing card if bears hadnt had to sell the team because he was going inactive...

I know lol, you guys joined up with Duluth lol, but I am just saying imagine going through that for 6 seasons lol, not just 1, and at least you guys made it that far, we haven't made it past the 2nd round in any season yet...

Originally posted by tumblwd501
Everyone's got their own opinions, there's no right or wrong. But everyone has to do what's right for their team and agents to make it fun, or people will stop caring and playing. No rules are being broken, so it's really not a big deal.

There used to be no swapping actually...until people complained about it too much...I swear every year Bort says no swapping this season and suddenly its alright again...

Originally posted by HurricaneBear


Your just being mean for no reason. i respect the Gamblers for understanding winning isn't everything, and keeping loyal to those who have stuck by you is a commendable act. You call them pussy's for wanting to have a shot at actually winning a season. Maybe when/if your team moves up and you go 500 at best for a few seasons, you'll understand more where they are coming from. I don't fault you, it's hard understanding where they are coming fom coming from a lower league. But as a team that's lived the Pro life EVERY season they've been a team, and failed, I don't fault them for wanting to move down and actually enjoy the game. How would have liked finishing at best a non home playoff game and a first round loss, at worst 5 wins or less EVERY season since you joined?


I could respect it if they continued to work at it...but I lose respect for them giving up. Winning really is everything in this game...if you arent playing to win, your wasting money to be honest...as its the entire point. If my team goes .500 or so for a couple seasons in Pro, cool, I will have gave it my best, just means that some teams are better built or have better gameplans...I wont quit trying to win tho because of that...just means we will need to get better...if you can enjoy moving backwards in this game, by all means, waste your money...have fun with that.

Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by tumblwd501

Everyone's got their own opinions, there's no right or wrong. But everyone has to do what's right for their team and agents to make it fun, or people will stop caring and playing. No rules are being broken, so it's really not a big deal.

There used to be no swapping actually...until people complained about it too much...I swear every year Bort says no swapping this season and suddenly its alright again...

well he did but then he stopped because there were to many requests that it was slowing down the offseason considerably, but I guess he figured out a way to make the offseason be fast and get teams to go where they want to be...

Originally posted by creeker22
Originally posted by bhall43

Originally posted by creeker22




It isn't cowardly. It is looking for a new start. I have never seen a team that starts over that is thought of as cowardly. I understand your view point, as yes we are a quite sore from playoff losses for 6 seasons in a row, but if you were on a team that was a favorite to win the league 3 of those seasons and to make the playoffs every season I am sure that you would have the same thought process

Been there...done that...once had a team that was thought of as being front runners with the Evil Monkeys back in USA A #4...top of the league basically every season only to lose in the conference championship game 3 times...hell..probably would still be playing card if bears hadnt had to sell the team because he was going inactive...

I know lol, you guys joined up with Duluth lol, but I am just saying imagine going through that for 6 seasons lol, not just 1, and at least you guys made it that far, we haven't made it past the 2nd round in any season yet...

Still doing that with Polk High actually in WE AA now...we were the top of A league by a lot and got beat in round 2. Only moved up because of relegation process with CPU's. It has been a common theme wherever I am it seems...but it doesnt stop me from keepin on with the fight. Duluth finally should be seeing the show tho.

Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by creeker22

Originally posted by bhall43


Originally posted by creeker22





It isn't cowardly. It is looking for a new start. I have never seen a team that starts over that is thought of as cowardly. I understand your view point, as yes we are a quite sore from playoff losses for 6 seasons in a row, but if you were on a team that was a favorite to win the league 3 of those seasons and to make the playoffs every season I am sure that you would have the same thought process

Been there...done that...once had a team that was thought of as being front runners with the Evil Monkeys back in USA A #4...top of the league basically every season only to lose in the conference championship game 3 times...hell..probably would still be playing card if bears hadnt had to sell the team because he was going inactive...

I know lol, you guys joined up with Duluth lol, but I am just saying imagine going through that for 6 seasons lol, not just 1, and at least you guys made it that far, we haven't made it past the 2nd round in any season yet...

Still doing that with Polk High actually in WE AA now...we were the top of A league by a lot and got beat in round 2. Only moved up because of relegation process with CPU's. It has been a common theme wherever I am it seems...but it doesnt stop me from keepin on with the fight. Duluth finally should be seeing the show tho.

BAHH!!!

Cracked under the pressure, but put up the good fight

Bhall why are you argueing with everybody lol

On a side note, Krak won the AA championship in Season 1, went 16-0 in AAA during season 2 before losing to the Ho's in the Zeta conference championship. Rather than wait around in AAA another season, we secured a spot with a team that wanted to move down and went straight to the Pro's in Season 3 and went 14-2!

I am so glad that we moved up... since we got to play some very solid teams and had success against much better competition... rather than stat pad an additional season down in AAA and dominating 90% of the teams by 70-100+ point differences 10 out of 16 games! The stat padding was fun but we wanted every week to be war.

Sometimes moving up makes sense! And with all the teams leaving each season, there is bound to be some turn over and additional promotions/relegations that go outside of the normal system.

I don't fault these teams, I just hope that the right teams are getting moved up so that they don't just come up and lose 10 games a season!

Hopefully Pa Dong ain't that team that loses 10 times lol, but I am sure Naga will be 12-13 teams deep next season.

Originally posted by Sulfadias0
On a side note, Krak won the AA championship in Season 1, went 16-0 in AAA during season 2 before losing to the Ho's in the Zeta conference championship. Rather than wait around in AAA another season, we secured a spot with a team that wanted to move down and went straight to the Pro's in Season 3 and went 14-2!

I am so glad that we moved up... since we got to play some very solid teams and had success against much better competition... rather than stat pad an additional season down in AAA and dominating 90% of the teams by 70-100+ point differences 10 out of 16 games! The stat padding was fun but we wanted every week to be war.

Sometimes moving up makes sense! And with all the teams leaving each season, there is bound to be some turn over and additional promotions/relegations that go outside of the normal system.

I don't fault these teams, I just hope that the right teams are getting moved up so that they don't just come up and lose 10 games a season!



I'm really going to miss Krak and the other Garuda teams that are hanging it up. I know there are some quality teams in AAA, but it's really hard to match a team of Krakatoan, HKH's, and NACJAC's caliber. If it's possible, the folding teams should consider merging with another team that is suffering a lot of roster casualties but has proven leadership. With only 3 seasons left before decline, why not just stay in a region you're familiar with?

Le sigh

Every player of mine that was on Krak appears to be likely staying in SEA Pro! I know 3-4 other Krak members that are staying in the region but most are scattering to the 4 corners!

I've been having second thoughts ever since I made the decision to sell the team, but I'm glad that my players will be staying here spread across 3 teams!

Originally posted by Sulfadias0
Every player of mine that was on Krak appears to be likely staying in SEA Pro! I know 3-4 other Krak members that are staying in the region but most are scattering to the 4 corners!

I've been having second thoughts ever since I made the decision to sell the team, but I'm glad that my players will be staying here spread across 3 teams!





LOL @ the new team name

Originally posted by Sulfadias0
Every player of mine that was on Krak appears to be likely staying in SEA Pro! I know 3-4 other Krak members that are staying in the region but most are scattering to the 4 corners!

I've been having second thoughts ever since I made the decision to sell the team, but I'm glad that my players will be staying here spread across 3 teams!





Sometimes it's just nice to be the agent, instead of the owner/GM, right?