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Originally posted by Ballbright
Originally posted by billyvassi

There was no point in posting this either:

My dog is 17 months old.


Originally posted by billyvassi

I just got 30 PMs from people saying they loved my post about my dog being 17 months old.




See what I mean? It's just Billy and Cats typing nonsense in here, hoping that by boring everyone to death, it'll go away.





And now, a sampling of classic moments from the past:

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Why do I do what I do? Because I can't stand it when people assume the intellectual high ground in message board forums.


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I just can't stand it when people use subtle psychology to drown out legitimate points.


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Making fun ... subtly detracts from the very valid information he has presented.


And that was just from one post. People toss a personal jab in along with a mass of reasoned discussion, and the personal comment is all that's focused on. Someone throws in a post with nothing but humor or personal attack, and suddenly people who aren't adding content are the ones keeping this alive.

Status check: This thread died a week ago, but resurrected 2 days ago when Joe used this thread not to continue to inform everyone of possible shady dealings, but to work around a forum lockout to talk about his negotiating of how he would or would not actively join the team for the playoffs. Nothing new has been added about billi blowing up a franchise or whether that fact was tied to catspaw's team needs and if it was collusion.

 
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Originally posted by JuniorMcSpiffy
Originally posted by Ballbright

Originally posted by billyvassi


There was no point in posting this either:

My dog is 17 months old.


Originally posted by billyvassi


I just got 30 PMs from people saying they loved my post about my dog being 17 months old.




See what I mean? It's just Billy and Cats typing nonsense in here, hoping that by boring everyone to death, it'll go away.





And now, a sampling of classic moments from the past:

Originally posted by

Why do I do what I do? Because I can't stand it when people assume the intellectual high ground in message board forums.


Originally posted by

I just can't stand it when people use subtle psychology to drown out legitimate points.


Originally posted by

Making fun ... subtly detracts from the very valid information he has presented.


And that was just from one post. People toss a personal jab in along with a mass of reasoned discussion, and the personal comment is all that's focused on. Someone throws in a post with nothing but humor or personal attack, and suddenly people who aren't adding content are the ones keeping this alive.

Status check: This thread died a week ago, but resurrected 2 days ago when Joe used this thread not to continue to inform everyone of possible shady dealings, but to work around a forum lockout to talk about his negotiating of how he would or would not actively join the team for the playoffs. Nothing new has been added about billi blowing up a franchise or whether that fact was tied to catspaw's team needs and if it was collusion.



Wow. That was almost entirely correct, with no joke on the end...

...the only issue I'd take with that is that Joe WAS updating the situation, and using the only means at hand to clear up some more recent alleged lying by Catspaw...but other than that you're right
 
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Just my opinion:

1. Lets refrain from cursing and dumb name calling cause its just gonna make everyone more pissed and its just gonna change the true story. It also makes you look like ur 9 years old, so please lets be sophisticated here.

2. Ballbright even though I'm on your side, calm down a bit. Billivassi did do something wrong. He did make some unfair trades. He didn't fully gut the Trashers and I dont think it was collusion at all. That one player isnt enough substantial evidence that he colluded with catspaw. I think catspaw is only guilty of overreacting on the JoeMalaka situation and reducing himself to dumb little comments that did nothing. Other wise I would clear Catspaw of all charges. I think Billyvassi should be guilty of gutting in the 2nd degree if u will (1st degree being a few spots on a team being gutted, 2nd degree being about half of a team, and 3rd degree being the whole team) but I dont think that anyone here can prove that he is guilty because of the lack of evidence. BillyVassi did mess up the Thrashers. He traded actives for equal inactives and left that team is in ruins. The trades were only slightly unbalanced, which doesnt withhold a problem. The problem at hand is that The Thrashers got hurt in the longrun. Billyvassi's activity is very suspicious and fishy. He should be watched and if no one's willing to do that, I will do it myself. I think this thread should be dropped officially because its over and theres nothing anyone can do to Billy. And as for the story of the Brisbane Bandits. They are not guilty and their season is not tarnished. They got one player from Billy. Catspaw is not guilty in any of his transactions. That one transaction was mildly just and not that big of a difference in whether a team succeeds or fails. If they wouldve traded a LVL 2 WR for the LVL 12 (or watever is was) CB that would be different. Brisbane did nothing wrong. Billy is a little suspicious but should not be banned or suspended. Just watched. Even if he's innocent just to make sure and not to leave the possibility that he got away with it. If anyone disagrees with my thoughts here, Im sorry that you do, but thats what I feel the real deal is. Go ahead and post if you will but this is my first and final word on the subject because its over, but I thought Id just throw my two cents in.

EDIT: Final Rulings:

Catspaw: Accused of collusion with BillyVassi - Innocent
BillyVassi: Accused of Gutting Baton Rouge Thrashers - Innocent but will be on probation (I and others will be watching his activity. Just thought Id use a fancy court term.)
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Can I still cross county lines?
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atm490
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Originally posted by billyvassi
I've already gotten 300 PMs congratulating me on exposing your grammar lie.



That might've been my favorite post in all of GLB.
 
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Originally posted by bkardane11
Just my opinion:

1. Lets refrain from cursing and dumb name calling cause its just gonna make everyone more pissed and its just gonna change the true story. It also makes you look like ur 9 years old, so please lets be sophisticated here.

2. Ballbright even though I'm on your side, calm down a bit. Billivassi did do something wrong. He did make some unfair trades. He didn't fully gut the Trashers and I dont think it was collusion at all. That one player isnt enough substantial evidence that he colluded with catspaw. I think catspaw is only guilty of overreacting on the JoeMalaka situation and reducing himself to dumb little comments that did nothing. Other wise I would clear Catspaw of all charges. I think Billyvassi should be guilty of gutting in the 2nd degree if u will (1st degree being a few spots on a team being gutted, 2nd degree being about half of a team, and 3rd degree being the whole team) but I dont think that anyone here can prove that he is guilty because of the lack of evidence. BillyVassi did mess up the Thrashers. He traded actives for equal inactives and left that team is in ruins. The trades were only slightly unbalanced, which doesnt withhold a problem. The problem at hand is that The Thrashers got hurt in the longrun. Billyvassi's activity is very suspicious and fishy. He should be watched and if no one's willing to do that, I will do it myself. I think this thread should be dropped officially because its over and theres nothing anyone can do to Billy. And as for the story of the Brisbane Bandits. They are not guilty and their season is not tarnished. They got one player from Billy. Catspaw is not guilty in any of his transactions. That one transaction was mildly just and not that big of a difference in whether a team succeeds or fails. If they wouldve traded a LVL 2 WR for the LVL 12 (or watever is was) CB that would be different. Brisbane did nothing wrong. Billy is a little suspicious but should not be banned or suspended. Just watched. Even if he's innocent just to make sure and not to leave the possibility that he got away with it. If anyone disagrees with my thoughts here, Im sorry that you do, but thats what I feel the real deal is. Go ahead and post if you will but this is my first and final word on the subject because its over, but I thought Id just throw my two cents in.

EDIT: Final Rulings:

Catspaw: Accused of collusion with BillyVassi - Innocent
BillyVassi: Accused of Gutting Baton Rouge Thrashers - Innocent but will be on probation (I and others will be watching his activity. Just thought Id use a fancy court term.)


You have some facts wrong. For instance it wasn't one player it was two...

But whatever. I'm done with this.

The facts are plain.

BillyVassi is a proven liar.
 
BradyFTW
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Originally posted by billyvassi
Can I still cross county lines?


Only if you wear a tracking device on your ankle.
 
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Originally posted by bkardane11

I think Billyvassi should be guilty of gutting in the 2nd degree if u will (1st degree being a few spots on a team being gutted, 2nd degree being about half of a team, and 3rd degree being the whole team) but I dont think that anyone here can prove that he is guilty because of the lack of evidence.


For the sake of accuracy, if you're going to apply "degrees" to law, "First degree" is always the worst transgression. In other words, you should switch "first degree gutting" to a "deliberate and premeditated gutting of an entire team," and third degree gutting to "a few spots" or whatever definition you choose.

"Degrees" of laws work in the opposite of skin burns, where a first degree burn only effects the skin (something like mild sunburn) while a fourth-degree burn means you've lost all skin and may've also burned muscles and bones.

-Your resident attorney / ex-lifeguard.

(Edit) This post, while true, is only intended as a joke/light-hearted fun. After posting and re-reading, I realize that I may sound like a big jerk who is correcting you, but no harm was intended at all.
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Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by bkardane11


I think Billyvassi should be guilty of gutting in the 2nd degree if u will (1st degree being a few spots on a team being gutted, 2nd degree being about half of a team, and 3rd degree being the whole team) but I dont think that anyone here can prove that he is guilty because of the lack of evidence.


For the sake of accuracy, if you're going to apply "degrees" to law, "First degree" is always the worst transgression. In other words, you should switch "first degree gutting" to a "deliberate and premeditated gutting of an entire team," and third degree gutting to "a few spots" or whatever definition you choose.

"Degrees" of laws work in the opposite of skin burns, where a first degree burn only effects the skin (something like mild sunburn) while a fourth-degree burn means you've lost all skin and may've also burned muscles and bones.

-Your resident attorney / ex-lifeguard.

(Edit) This post, while true, is only intended as a joke/light-hearted fun. After posting and re-reading, I realize that I may sound like a big jerk who is correcting you, but no harm was intended at all.


Hahahaha, my bad. I mixed em up. Yeah im not offended. Im not sure who would be offended by that.
 
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Originally posted by billyvassi
Can I still cross county lines?


Only on wednesdays and on holidays
 
billyvassi
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Yes! Holidays are when I do all my smugglin'
 
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Originally posted by bkardane11
Originally posted by billyvassi

Can I still cross county lines?


Only on wednesdays and on holidays


700th post wtg
 
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Originally posted by MC_Hammer
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is that code for 4:20?
 
joemalaka
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For wanting this to die, everyone seems to be posting here a lot.

Maybe I will just post all the PM's here and keep this going longer. Since catspaw27 was able to give out my PM's why shouldn't I?
 
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...

it is dead.
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